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Is he really an alumni if he didn't graduate? The definition on Wikipedia would say yes, but generally I thought it only referred to graduates, not just attendees. Admittedly, I am biased however, so I'm not changing anything. Alex 17:13, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
EAP 1809-1849
The simpsons came out 140yrs. after he died, unless I'm Mistaken.....
Vandalism Maybe? ----Ass_Kicker_The_Great —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ass Kicker The Great ( talk • contribs) 23:43, 22 January 2007 (UTC).
I'm afraid I have trouble considering most authors to be of "Top" importance, at least for science fiction. Top-importance are whole sections in the main article. Probably Heinlein (mentioned six times in the article), but after that it's hazy. I don't consider Poe to be the most important SF writer of the 19th century (that would have to be Wells, IMO). I changed the assessment to "High"; he did help define the short story form. Avt tor 06:51, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to suggest a separate page be made about Poe's death, including theories, research, the reburial, etc. The full article has gotten quite long and I think this is a very appropriate part to pull out. Thoughts? Midnightdreary 18:42, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, I've gone ahead and done it. Feel free to debate if it was a good idea; we can always move it back. Midnightdreary 16:43, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
I passed this as good article. It has a lot of good information and is quite readable. The sources are reliable and all the facts I spot checked seemed to check out. Even, to my surprise, the one about Poes essay on cryptography contributing to the start up of the USA's code breaking effort in WWI. I do think the article is a little long and I second the suggestion I see on this discussion page of breaking all the popular culture and film stuff out into a separate article. I think this article should focus on his life and work and his influence on other writers. Rusty Cashman 10:35, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the Batman: Nevermore series of comics. This 5-issue comic is told from the perspective of Edgar Allan Poe, and a Batman-like figure shows up as "The Raven." I have only read one issue, so I am not suited to add a full journal-style entry, but I felt it deserved a mention. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 168.8.64.2 ( talk) 17:52, 2 March 2007 (UTC).
A formal review of this one-off can be found at: http://www.popmatters.com/comics/batman-nevermore.shtml
He attempted suicide in 1948? I don´t think so. Please, prove it. Sürrell 16.03.07. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.52.161.132 ( talk) 11:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC).
In the Edgar_Allan_Poe#Career section, I'd like to swap out the picture of Poe ( Image:Edgar Allan Poe.jpg) to a picture of his wife Image:VirginiaPoe.jpg, as this is (somewhat oddly, I feel) the section in which her death is discussed. Thoughts? - Malkinann 09:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I have never heard or read anything that ever mentions Pawtucket, RI as a place where Poe served an apprenticeship. He did spend time in his later years in nearby Providence, but an apprenticeship in Pawtucket? Where did this information come from? I strongly believe this is an eggregous factual error that needs immediate correction. 72.200.147.152 16:58, 1 April 2007 (UTC)Richard Kucal
The Note 7 down in the References links to a non-existent article in the wikisource. I believe the correct article is at http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Death_of_Edgar_Allan_Poe is it not? At least it would work Cerothought 14:09, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
fixed. :) - Malkinann 21:54, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Given that there seems to be minimal content about Poe's childhood years in London, I am proposing removing this article from the scope of WikiProject London. --Lang rabbie 20:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
he died in 1849, but one of his poems named "alone" was made in 1875. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.239.152.48 ( talk • contribs)
There is a discussion going on right now to rate this article as A-Class. Right now the concensus seems to be in the "Oppose" direction. So, let's take it as a kick in the pants to get this article up to par. Review the discussion here to see what can be done. - Midnightdreary 03:59, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
For an english finial, I have to analysis a short story, I wanted to do one by Poe, but I don't know, and can't seem to find the title. It is about a party, everyone is in costume, and it talks about different rooms, which each have a color theme. Does anyone know the title? Thanks. 65.115.136.98 00:07, 4 May 2007 (UTC)NG
I read that Poe's great house was called Moldavia. Does anyone know why it was called Moldavia and why the name was given to a house? Also, why isn't that mentioned in the article? -- Thus Spake Anittas 23:25, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Poe's influence on Hubert Selby Jr. is not mentioned anywhere, despite a prominent scene in The Queen Is Dead portion of Last Exit To Brooklyn involving the protagonist Georgette reading excerpts from The Raven to her company. 90.196.16.134 00:28, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't a mention of the Poe Toaster be made in this article? Does anyone want to BE BOLD Jac roe 18:53, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm sure I've heard (and read on a previous version of this very page), that Edgar Allan Poe's grave or memorial was/is visited once a year by a mysterious man/woman and that this person leaves a rose and konyac (or something/s to that effect). Is this true? If so why is there no mention of it in the article? (Answer directly to my talk page if possible, SKC not signed in.).
As a child EAP dreamed of becoming a poet. At birth he was already 3/4 of the way there..
-- Philopedia 11:54, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
The article states that the only two homes still around are in PA and MD. This is ridiculous to anyone from the Bronx in NY since he has a cottage still preserved as a landmark/museum. http://www.museumregister.com/US/NewYork/Bronx/Fordham/PoeCottage.html
I'm looking for advice on a new template for a Poe navigation box of all of his works. I'm not sure it's necessarily needed, so I'm looking for opinions. The original is clean and simple, the new version is a bit clunky and possibly larger than it needs to be. Feel free to respond on my talk page or right here. Template:Edgar Allan Poe (original) vs. (new) User:Midnightdreary/test - Midnightdreary 00:32, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
You are correct--the nav box has gotten cluttered. I would suggest making it a pure navigation box and inserting a separate bibliography into this article (or as its own article) per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists of works). The use of nav boxes at bibliographies is fraught with trouble, not the least that they can provide far less info than a fleshed out bibliography. I have just reinserted a full bibliography in the Charles Dickens article b/c myself and other editors were troubled by all the missing info. Again, please see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists of works) for info on listing the works of authors. Best,-- Alabamaboy 00:19, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Alabamaboy and, like (I assume) him, I would also oppose an article on an author that lacked a list of works. Do we know what the standard scholarly bibliography of Poe's works is? Awadewit | talk 16:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Based on discussions here and elsewhere (notably the WikiProject Biography discussion that denied A-Class status to this article), I'll be making some updates here. A) I think I'll be separating most of the "Legacy" related information into its own article, perhaps Edgar Allan Poe's influence or something along those lines. B) Additionally, I'll be creating a bibliography article with a selected bibliography to be put on the main page. Any suggestions how I choose what's selected to be represented on the main article? Any disagreements with these two updates? Feel free to discuss. -- Midnightdreary 22:52, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Please split off the legacy section - in this article, the portion on his legacy overshadows the portion dedicated to his life!!! After that, for further development, we could put it up for peer review, or renominate it for the biography wikiproject's A-class assessment.- Malkinann 23:49, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Another point - I've found Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/References to Oscar Wilde in popular culture, which doesn't augre well for the Edgar Allan Poe in popular culture page. - Malkinann 00:38, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
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Is he really an alumni if he didn't graduate? The definition on Wikipedia would say yes, but generally I thought it only referred to graduates, not just attendees. Admittedly, I am biased however, so I'm not changing anything. Alex 17:13, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
EAP 1809-1849
The simpsons came out 140yrs. after he died, unless I'm Mistaken.....
Vandalism Maybe? ----Ass_Kicker_The_Great —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ass Kicker The Great ( talk • contribs) 23:43, 22 January 2007 (UTC).
I'm afraid I have trouble considering most authors to be of "Top" importance, at least for science fiction. Top-importance are whole sections in the main article. Probably Heinlein (mentioned six times in the article), but after that it's hazy. I don't consider Poe to be the most important SF writer of the 19th century (that would have to be Wells, IMO). I changed the assessment to "High"; he did help define the short story form. Avt tor 06:51, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to suggest a separate page be made about Poe's death, including theories, research, the reburial, etc. The full article has gotten quite long and I think this is a very appropriate part to pull out. Thoughts? Midnightdreary 18:42, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, I've gone ahead and done it. Feel free to debate if it was a good idea; we can always move it back. Midnightdreary 16:43, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
I passed this as good article. It has a lot of good information and is quite readable. The sources are reliable and all the facts I spot checked seemed to check out. Even, to my surprise, the one about Poes essay on cryptography contributing to the start up of the USA's code breaking effort in WWI. I do think the article is a little long and I second the suggestion I see on this discussion page of breaking all the popular culture and film stuff out into a separate article. I think this article should focus on his life and work and his influence on other writers. Rusty Cashman 10:35, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the Batman: Nevermore series of comics. This 5-issue comic is told from the perspective of Edgar Allan Poe, and a Batman-like figure shows up as "The Raven." I have only read one issue, so I am not suited to add a full journal-style entry, but I felt it deserved a mention. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 168.8.64.2 ( talk) 17:52, 2 March 2007 (UTC).
A formal review of this one-off can be found at: http://www.popmatters.com/comics/batman-nevermore.shtml
He attempted suicide in 1948? I don´t think so. Please, prove it. Sürrell 16.03.07. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.52.161.132 ( talk) 11:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC).
In the Edgar_Allan_Poe#Career section, I'd like to swap out the picture of Poe ( Image:Edgar Allan Poe.jpg) to a picture of his wife Image:VirginiaPoe.jpg, as this is (somewhat oddly, I feel) the section in which her death is discussed. Thoughts? - Malkinann 09:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I have never heard or read anything that ever mentions Pawtucket, RI as a place where Poe served an apprenticeship. He did spend time in his later years in nearby Providence, but an apprenticeship in Pawtucket? Where did this information come from? I strongly believe this is an eggregous factual error that needs immediate correction. 72.200.147.152 16:58, 1 April 2007 (UTC)Richard Kucal
The Note 7 down in the References links to a non-existent article in the wikisource. I believe the correct article is at http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Death_of_Edgar_Allan_Poe is it not? At least it would work Cerothought 14:09, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
fixed. :) - Malkinann 21:54, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Given that there seems to be minimal content about Poe's childhood years in London, I am proposing removing this article from the scope of WikiProject London. --Lang rabbie 20:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
he died in 1849, but one of his poems named "alone" was made in 1875. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.239.152.48 ( talk • contribs)
There is a discussion going on right now to rate this article as A-Class. Right now the concensus seems to be in the "Oppose" direction. So, let's take it as a kick in the pants to get this article up to par. Review the discussion here to see what can be done. - Midnightdreary 03:59, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
For an english finial, I have to analysis a short story, I wanted to do one by Poe, but I don't know, and can't seem to find the title. It is about a party, everyone is in costume, and it talks about different rooms, which each have a color theme. Does anyone know the title? Thanks. 65.115.136.98 00:07, 4 May 2007 (UTC)NG
I read that Poe's great house was called Moldavia. Does anyone know why it was called Moldavia and why the name was given to a house? Also, why isn't that mentioned in the article? -- Thus Spake Anittas 23:25, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Poe's influence on Hubert Selby Jr. is not mentioned anywhere, despite a prominent scene in The Queen Is Dead portion of Last Exit To Brooklyn involving the protagonist Georgette reading excerpts from The Raven to her company. 90.196.16.134 00:28, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't a mention of the Poe Toaster be made in this article? Does anyone want to BE BOLD Jac roe 18:53, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm sure I've heard (and read on a previous version of this very page), that Edgar Allan Poe's grave or memorial was/is visited once a year by a mysterious man/woman and that this person leaves a rose and konyac (or something/s to that effect). Is this true? If so why is there no mention of it in the article? (Answer directly to my talk page if possible, SKC not signed in.).
As a child EAP dreamed of becoming a poet. At birth he was already 3/4 of the way there..
-- Philopedia 11:54, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
The article states that the only two homes still around are in PA and MD. This is ridiculous to anyone from the Bronx in NY since he has a cottage still preserved as a landmark/museum. http://www.museumregister.com/US/NewYork/Bronx/Fordham/PoeCottage.html
I'm looking for advice on a new template for a Poe navigation box of all of his works. I'm not sure it's necessarily needed, so I'm looking for opinions. The original is clean and simple, the new version is a bit clunky and possibly larger than it needs to be. Feel free to respond on my talk page or right here. Template:Edgar Allan Poe (original) vs. (new) User:Midnightdreary/test - Midnightdreary 00:32, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
You are correct--the nav box has gotten cluttered. I would suggest making it a pure navigation box and inserting a separate bibliography into this article (or as its own article) per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists of works). The use of nav boxes at bibliographies is fraught with trouble, not the least that they can provide far less info than a fleshed out bibliography. I have just reinserted a full bibliography in the Charles Dickens article b/c myself and other editors were troubled by all the missing info. Again, please see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists of works) for info on listing the works of authors. Best,-- Alabamaboy 00:19, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Alabamaboy and, like (I assume) him, I would also oppose an article on an author that lacked a list of works. Do we know what the standard scholarly bibliography of Poe's works is? Awadewit | talk 16:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Based on discussions here and elsewhere (notably the WikiProject Biography discussion that denied A-Class status to this article), I'll be making some updates here. A) I think I'll be separating most of the "Legacy" related information into its own article, perhaps Edgar Allan Poe's influence or something along those lines. B) Additionally, I'll be creating a bibliography article with a selected bibliography to be put on the main page. Any suggestions how I choose what's selected to be represented on the main article? Any disagreements with these two updates? Feel free to discuss. -- Midnightdreary 22:52, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Please split off the legacy section - in this article, the portion on his legacy overshadows the portion dedicated to his life!!! After that, for further development, we could put it up for peer review, or renominate it for the biography wikiproject's A-class assessment.- Malkinann 23:49, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Another point - I've found Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/References to Oscar Wilde in popular culture, which doesn't augre well for the Edgar Allan Poe in popular culture page. - Malkinann 00:38, 23 July 2007 (UTC)