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The intro of the article mentions that it is well-known that he had serious drug-problems. I think that it is actually not that well-known "evidence" for drug-use is aparent, where he mentions his suicide attempt using laudanumand the year spent in treatment for opium.We should also take into account the fact that opium was a common pharmaceutical ingredient at that time for all medication. -- Dada 14:30, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
The Epitaph of Edgar Allan Poe As I pondered weak and weary, o'er a certain unsettling theory. Shall I die without to know, the love the world has to show? All the loves that were in my life, have left me now without a wife. As I finish my final bottle wine, I thought of Annibel Lee's eyes that shine. Tis' that death rapping, tapping at my door, only that and nothing more.
Randi Elaine Cutburth Copyright ©2007 Randi Elaine Cutburth
4rth line 1st paragraph Since when did edgar Allan Poe invest gothic fiction, I'm sure 'Castle of Otranto' by Horace Walpole outdates his life by an odd 26 years I guess it's up to differing opinions but can that be cleaned up
I'm pretty sure Edgar had a sister named Lucy Ann Poe.
I know this because I'm directly related to her.
According to the Edgar Allan Poe Society of Baltimore, he had a sister named Rosalie (middle name Mackenzie). -- Dada 13:27, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm... That's strange. I'll go check the dates again. Mitch 21:51, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
He also had a brother. Someone should mention his siblings, and what became of them, in the article. 207.216.170.38 07:23, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Considering what seems to me the staggering amount of vandalism that has ocurred in the last 24 hours, perhaps this article needs protection? -- Charles 17:56, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
You can request page protection and unprotection at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, but in my experience the page hasn't been hit that badly. It's on my watchlist so I regularly catch vandalism to the article and I guess from the history it's on Syrthiss' watchlist too. -- Alf melmac 18:13, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
That there are characters named "Poes" in The Legend of Zelda game does not need to be mentioned twice, and really not even once, but I only removed one mention.
I agree. Poes in the Zelda series hardly have anything to do with E. A. Poe. If there is any connection then a source would be nice. This mention should be deleted.
12.44.31.196 17:32, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I think the influence on American literature has been pretty great and the section on this should reflect that. I can't quote specifics (that's why I'm not adding specifics), but I'm sure I've read a large number of articles on American authors that say Poe was a great influence. I've heard that he wasn't highly regarded in his own time and the article mentions this (Mark Twain actually might have taken a swing at him in Huckleberry Finn where he included a scene where Huck reads a horrible poet who writes on dark themes), but he's hugely regarded now. Jztinfinity 16:33, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Poe seems to have deliberately orchestrated his court-martial and dismissal from West Point because it was the quickest way to get out of the place. Many of his fellow cadets bought copies of his latest chapbook to help him financially, which would indicate a certain level of popularity and respect. Edgar Allan Poe: A Critical Biography by Arthur Hobson Quinn. New York, 1941, Appleton-Century-Crofts, Inc. -- Cranston Lamont 04:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Poe and Charles Dickens were personally acquainted and on friendly terms; the two met during one of Dickens's U.S. tours. After Poe's death Dickens sent a sum of money to Poe's aunt. Quinn, op. cit. -- Cranston Lamont 04:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I would question the line that Poe was influenced by Dickens. Both might have influenced each other in a small way. The only influence that can be seen in their works is in "The Mystery of Edwin Drood" - this surely was influenced by Poe's works. Dickens best works were published after Poe died in 1949. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.107.248.195 ( talk) 15:35, August 26, 2007 (UTC)
Why does this page attract so many dumb vandals? Is there someting about Poe which lures them here? Colin4C 20:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
I added a link to some audio recordings I recently created of some Poe short stories. I think the quality's higher than most of what's available (MP3 resolution as well as interpretation) so I hope nobody minds my promoting them here. The recordings are available for free and there are no advertisements or commercial links or anything like that. aruffo 22:15, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
As everyone who has ever gone on a tour of the grounds at the University of Virginia knows, Poe was expelled from the University of Virginia for violating the honor code. He did not "drop-out" due to his gambling debts. Poe was caught gambling, which was against the rules for a UVA student, and was facing some form of punishment, although almost certainly something short of expulsion, as gambling was not and is not a violation of UVA's honor code. Unfortunately, Poe lied in his own defense, and was caught in the lie as well. Lying, unlike gambling, is very much an honor violation, hence Poe's expulsion. I will provide supporting information if I can find any, but due to an astonishing wave of revisionism and bad research, nearly no one has the story straight right now.
66.108.185.206 02:38, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
The UVA U-Guides have a "notebook" of materials their new guides study (or at least they used to). Does anyone have access to that information? It isn't currently available on their website.
Cka3n 21:31, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
What's with the vanadlism found in the first paragraph of biography? This article clearly needs to be protected.
I have only read a handful of Poe stories, and seen a few films, so I am no expert. Bit confused over Tales of Mystery and Imagination, however, as there is no mention of the title in this article. Was this simply the name later given by a publisher to Poe's collected works? If so, I think an expert needs to weigh in and say something in the article. To me, and I'm sure to many others, Poe's name is synonymous with Tales of Mystery and Imagination, so it seems odd it is not mentioned. When I linked it from another article, the entry under Tales of Mystery and Imagination is about a rock album inspired by Poe. David L Rattigan 08:05, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Does Poe's Irish ancestry explain his addiction to alcohol? Lestrade 14:41, 12 October 2006 (UTC)Lestrade
Still the irish have aan affinity for ale, and moonshine, and beer, and vodka. Adolph 172
Why Wasn't Poe accepted by his foster parents? Like later
Who were the two women most devoted to Poe and what relationship were they to Poe?
What happened to Poe's wife? How did this affect Poe?
What were some of Poe's jobs?
What is the connection between Poe and the Baltimore Ravens NFL club?
Who is the Poe Toaste?
Indeed. Funny stuff.
I've started an approach that may apply to Wikipedia's Core Biography articles: creating a branching list page based on in popular culture information. I started that last year while I raised Joan of Arc to featured article when I created Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc, which has become a featured list. Recently I also created Cultural depictions of Alexander the Great out of material that had been deleted from the biography article. Since cultural references sometimes get deleted without discussion, I'd like to suggest this as a model for the editors here. Regards, Durova 16:14, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I was just wondering if anyone knows what "Elah-Gabalus" means. I did a Google search of the term and the only hits that it made had to do with William Wilson.-- Rouge Rosado Oui? 04:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
I have personal photo images of Poe's original gravestone (with the Raven atop it) available if you want them. I have no idea how to upload images to wiki so if one of you messages me to say how to do this I'll get it done. The image of his tombstone shown in the article is not the original. Iamlondon 07:21, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I see that this page has been added to the "Suicide" and "Writers who committed suicide" categories. However, even though he did attempt suicide one year before his death, he was not successful in that attempt. His actual death, though self-destructive, can hardly be described as a suicide. As such, I believe he should be removed from those categories, unless the latter also include suicide attempts (which I believe is not the case). Archiesteel 23:29, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
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The intro of the article mentions that it is well-known that he had serious drug-problems. I think that it is actually not that well-known "evidence" for drug-use is aparent, where he mentions his suicide attempt using laudanumand the year spent in treatment for opium.We should also take into account the fact that opium was a common pharmaceutical ingredient at that time for all medication. -- Dada 14:30, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
The Epitaph of Edgar Allan Poe As I pondered weak and weary, o'er a certain unsettling theory. Shall I die without to know, the love the world has to show? All the loves that were in my life, have left me now without a wife. As I finish my final bottle wine, I thought of Annibel Lee's eyes that shine. Tis' that death rapping, tapping at my door, only that and nothing more.
Randi Elaine Cutburth Copyright ©2007 Randi Elaine Cutburth
4rth line 1st paragraph Since when did edgar Allan Poe invest gothic fiction, I'm sure 'Castle of Otranto' by Horace Walpole outdates his life by an odd 26 years I guess it's up to differing opinions but can that be cleaned up
I'm pretty sure Edgar had a sister named Lucy Ann Poe.
I know this because I'm directly related to her.
According to the Edgar Allan Poe Society of Baltimore, he had a sister named Rosalie (middle name Mackenzie). -- Dada 13:27, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm... That's strange. I'll go check the dates again. Mitch 21:51, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
He also had a brother. Someone should mention his siblings, and what became of them, in the article. 207.216.170.38 07:23, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Considering what seems to me the staggering amount of vandalism that has ocurred in the last 24 hours, perhaps this article needs protection? -- Charles 17:56, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
You can request page protection and unprotection at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, but in my experience the page hasn't been hit that badly. It's on my watchlist so I regularly catch vandalism to the article and I guess from the history it's on Syrthiss' watchlist too. -- Alf melmac 18:13, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
That there are characters named "Poes" in The Legend of Zelda game does not need to be mentioned twice, and really not even once, but I only removed one mention.
I agree. Poes in the Zelda series hardly have anything to do with E. A. Poe. If there is any connection then a source would be nice. This mention should be deleted.
12.44.31.196 17:32, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I think the influence on American literature has been pretty great and the section on this should reflect that. I can't quote specifics (that's why I'm not adding specifics), but I'm sure I've read a large number of articles on American authors that say Poe was a great influence. I've heard that he wasn't highly regarded in his own time and the article mentions this (Mark Twain actually might have taken a swing at him in Huckleberry Finn where he included a scene where Huck reads a horrible poet who writes on dark themes), but he's hugely regarded now. Jztinfinity 16:33, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Poe seems to have deliberately orchestrated his court-martial and dismissal from West Point because it was the quickest way to get out of the place. Many of his fellow cadets bought copies of his latest chapbook to help him financially, which would indicate a certain level of popularity and respect. Edgar Allan Poe: A Critical Biography by Arthur Hobson Quinn. New York, 1941, Appleton-Century-Crofts, Inc. -- Cranston Lamont 04:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Poe and Charles Dickens were personally acquainted and on friendly terms; the two met during one of Dickens's U.S. tours. After Poe's death Dickens sent a sum of money to Poe's aunt. Quinn, op. cit. -- Cranston Lamont 04:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I would question the line that Poe was influenced by Dickens. Both might have influenced each other in a small way. The only influence that can be seen in their works is in "The Mystery of Edwin Drood" - this surely was influenced by Poe's works. Dickens best works were published after Poe died in 1949. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.107.248.195 ( talk) 15:35, August 26, 2007 (UTC)
Why does this page attract so many dumb vandals? Is there someting about Poe which lures them here? Colin4C 20:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
I added a link to some audio recordings I recently created of some Poe short stories. I think the quality's higher than most of what's available (MP3 resolution as well as interpretation) so I hope nobody minds my promoting them here. The recordings are available for free and there are no advertisements or commercial links or anything like that. aruffo 22:15, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
As everyone who has ever gone on a tour of the grounds at the University of Virginia knows, Poe was expelled from the University of Virginia for violating the honor code. He did not "drop-out" due to his gambling debts. Poe was caught gambling, which was against the rules for a UVA student, and was facing some form of punishment, although almost certainly something short of expulsion, as gambling was not and is not a violation of UVA's honor code. Unfortunately, Poe lied in his own defense, and was caught in the lie as well. Lying, unlike gambling, is very much an honor violation, hence Poe's expulsion. I will provide supporting information if I can find any, but due to an astonishing wave of revisionism and bad research, nearly no one has the story straight right now.
66.108.185.206 02:38, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
The UVA U-Guides have a "notebook" of materials their new guides study (or at least they used to). Does anyone have access to that information? It isn't currently available on their website.
Cka3n 21:31, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
What's with the vanadlism found in the first paragraph of biography? This article clearly needs to be protected.
I have only read a handful of Poe stories, and seen a few films, so I am no expert. Bit confused over Tales of Mystery and Imagination, however, as there is no mention of the title in this article. Was this simply the name later given by a publisher to Poe's collected works? If so, I think an expert needs to weigh in and say something in the article. To me, and I'm sure to many others, Poe's name is synonymous with Tales of Mystery and Imagination, so it seems odd it is not mentioned. When I linked it from another article, the entry under Tales of Mystery and Imagination is about a rock album inspired by Poe. David L Rattigan 08:05, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Does Poe's Irish ancestry explain his addiction to alcohol? Lestrade 14:41, 12 October 2006 (UTC)Lestrade
Still the irish have aan affinity for ale, and moonshine, and beer, and vodka. Adolph 172
Why Wasn't Poe accepted by his foster parents? Like later
Who were the two women most devoted to Poe and what relationship were they to Poe?
What happened to Poe's wife? How did this affect Poe?
What were some of Poe's jobs?
What is the connection between Poe and the Baltimore Ravens NFL club?
Who is the Poe Toaste?
Indeed. Funny stuff.
I've started an approach that may apply to Wikipedia's Core Biography articles: creating a branching list page based on in popular culture information. I started that last year while I raised Joan of Arc to featured article when I created Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc, which has become a featured list. Recently I also created Cultural depictions of Alexander the Great out of material that had been deleted from the biography article. Since cultural references sometimes get deleted without discussion, I'd like to suggest this as a model for the editors here. Regards, Durova 16:14, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I was just wondering if anyone knows what "Elah-Gabalus" means. I did a Google search of the term and the only hits that it made had to do with William Wilson.-- Rouge Rosado Oui? 04:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
I have personal photo images of Poe's original gravestone (with the Raven atop it) available if you want them. I have no idea how to upload images to wiki so if one of you messages me to say how to do this I'll get it done. The image of his tombstone shown in the article is not the original. Iamlondon 07:21, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I see that this page has been added to the "Suicide" and "Writers who committed suicide" categories. However, even though he did attempt suicide one year before his death, he was not successful in that attempt. His actual death, though self-destructive, can hardly be described as a suicide. As such, I believe he should be removed from those categories, unless the latter also include suicide attempts (which I believe is not the case). Archiesteel 23:29, 31 December 2006 (UTC)