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It is utterly ridiculous to suggest Ricketts is in Grapes or Moon. Who writes this crap?
it is very doubtful that jack london visited ed ricketts lab, since london died in 1916, when ricketts was just 19. 200.126.248.226
I'd appreciate suggestions for citing my source for the essay info. All my additions come from "Renaissance Man of Cannery Row," edited by Katharine A. Rodger; the essay info comes from pp xxxii-xxxvii, and the John Cage reference comes from two specific letters in that book, pp 81-84 and p 194. Thanks! kristiwachter
I'm a new-comer here, hope I'm not out of line. I think the statements that Ricketts was a philosopher and "the father of modern marine ecology" are both overstatements. Ricketts surely was interested in philosophy and put a lot of effort into writing some essays of his personal philosophy. Yet he never achieved success in that field. I think it would be more accurate to call him an "amateur philosopher" or find some polite way to say "wannabe philosopher."
2nd, Ricketts wasn't the only biologist or the foremost biologist working on marine ecology in his era. Perhaps some have called him the "father of modern marine ecology," but I've never heard that. Offhand, I remember that Stephenson & Stephenson were very important contemporaries, and probably were more widely known and widely published. They're in Tamm's book, Beyond the Outer Shores, p. 246. I could probably dig up some other important contemporaries if needed.
Finally, the page has sections on Biography & Family and on Philosophical Essays. But no section on Biological Research & publications. I hope one can be added.
Best, -SW Scott D. White 02:08, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm sure Tamm would agree that he was the father of California Marine ecology or possibly Pacific Coastal ecology. Iankeir 05:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Another couple of comments: I've read the book by Ed Larsh (Doc's Lab . . . ). It has nothing at all to do with Ricketts. It's about some guys who rented the lab a few years after Ricketts's death. Most of them were local high school teachers who arrived in Monterey after the train crash. They hung out in the lab, drank wine, and told their own stories. Larsh never met Ricketts and barely ever met anyone who had. I'm sure Larsh is a great guy, and I'm sure all his friends are too. But this book isn't part of the Ricketts story and I suggest deleting it from the bibliography.
There's a very good photo of Ricketts on p. 59 in _With Steinbeck in the Sea of Cortez_ by Sparky Enea as told to Audry Lynch, 1991, Sand River Press, Los Osos Calif. It is credited to Brian Fitch, courtesy Steinbeck archives, Salinas Public Library, Salinas, Calif. I could scan the photo if that would be useful, but I'm not up to the task of getting permission to use it here.
Best, -SW Scott D. White 06:05, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, OK. I've been bold and done some editing throughout the article and added a bunch of marine biology stuff. I've also sent an email to a photography archive asking permission to use a photo. I think my citation formatting is likely to need some cleanup. Don't have time now to go through and proof details. I will be glad to see any improvements.
Best,
-SW Scott D. White 06:40, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, Viriditas for editing. I made a couple other minor edits & removed the cleanup flag.
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03:26, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
I had been attempting to add more about this subject until an article I began was redirected and the contents was taken without a discussion and placed in this article. I am not happy about this uncivil behavior. If this is the type of people editing here than perhaps I shouldn't be.
Someone needs to track down Ed's lineage to Howard Taylor Ricketts preferably a biologist not a literary agent and add that as a link. --enm, 1:00 6 Nov 2007 UTC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.232.210.38 ( talk) 00:52, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Anyone mind if I expand the lead section? Viriditas ( talk) 09:15, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
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It is utterly ridiculous to suggest Ricketts is in Grapes or Moon. Who writes this crap?
it is very doubtful that jack london visited ed ricketts lab, since london died in 1916, when ricketts was just 19. 200.126.248.226
I'd appreciate suggestions for citing my source for the essay info. All my additions come from "Renaissance Man of Cannery Row," edited by Katharine A. Rodger; the essay info comes from pp xxxii-xxxvii, and the John Cage reference comes from two specific letters in that book, pp 81-84 and p 194. Thanks! kristiwachter
I'm a new-comer here, hope I'm not out of line. I think the statements that Ricketts was a philosopher and "the father of modern marine ecology" are both overstatements. Ricketts surely was interested in philosophy and put a lot of effort into writing some essays of his personal philosophy. Yet he never achieved success in that field. I think it would be more accurate to call him an "amateur philosopher" or find some polite way to say "wannabe philosopher."
2nd, Ricketts wasn't the only biologist or the foremost biologist working on marine ecology in his era. Perhaps some have called him the "father of modern marine ecology," but I've never heard that. Offhand, I remember that Stephenson & Stephenson were very important contemporaries, and probably were more widely known and widely published. They're in Tamm's book, Beyond the Outer Shores, p. 246. I could probably dig up some other important contemporaries if needed.
Finally, the page has sections on Biography & Family and on Philosophical Essays. But no section on Biological Research & publications. I hope one can be added.
Best, -SW Scott D. White 02:08, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm sure Tamm would agree that he was the father of California Marine ecology or possibly Pacific Coastal ecology. Iankeir 05:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Another couple of comments: I've read the book by Ed Larsh (Doc's Lab . . . ). It has nothing at all to do with Ricketts. It's about some guys who rented the lab a few years after Ricketts's death. Most of them were local high school teachers who arrived in Monterey after the train crash. They hung out in the lab, drank wine, and told their own stories. Larsh never met Ricketts and barely ever met anyone who had. I'm sure Larsh is a great guy, and I'm sure all his friends are too. But this book isn't part of the Ricketts story and I suggest deleting it from the bibliography.
There's a very good photo of Ricketts on p. 59 in _With Steinbeck in the Sea of Cortez_ by Sparky Enea as told to Audry Lynch, 1991, Sand River Press, Los Osos Calif. It is credited to Brian Fitch, courtesy Steinbeck archives, Salinas Public Library, Salinas, Calif. I could scan the photo if that would be useful, but I'm not up to the task of getting permission to use it here.
Best, -SW Scott D. White 06:05, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, OK. I've been bold and done some editing throughout the article and added a bunch of marine biology stuff. I've also sent an email to a photography archive asking permission to use a photo. I think my citation formatting is likely to need some cleanup. Don't have time now to go through and proof details. I will be glad to see any improvements.
Best,
-SW Scott D. White 06:40, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, Viriditas for editing. I made a couple other minor edits & removed the cleanup flag.
Scott D. White
03:26, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
I had been attempting to add more about this subject until an article I began was redirected and the contents was taken without a discussion and placed in this article. I am not happy about this uncivil behavior. If this is the type of people editing here than perhaps I shouldn't be.
Someone needs to track down Ed's lineage to Howard Taylor Ricketts preferably a biologist not a literary agent and add that as a link. --enm, 1:00 6 Nov 2007 UTC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.232.210.38 ( talk) 00:52, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
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