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I have just landed on this article thanks to the Random Article button, and reading through it, something has occurred to me.
I seem to recall that at one time, Economy 7 had some kind of facility which allowed you to vary the times at which your heating, water, etc, was on. This meant it would come on for a couple of hours during the afternoon and evening, as well as at night. I have a vague memory of Victoria Wood appearing in an advert for one of the old electricity boards shortly after they were privatized, in which she talked about the facility. Anyone got a reference on that one?
Paul from Brum ( talk) 14:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Of course you can vary when your heating and water is put on to your heart's content... but that won't change what the 'off-peak' hours are, will it? If you want to change those, you need to be a Timelord. hth. 91.106.175.8 ( talk) 09:18, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Is it more expensive 'on peak' with Economy 7, or are the daytime prices the same as normal when you're on Economy 7? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.218.37 ( talk) 08:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
This statement does not make ANY sense in the context in which it is given. In the current context a house could have 0.01% of its consumption during off-peak and it would still be saving money. This implies that peak electricity is more expensive on Economy 7 (as the writer above asked) but this isn't mentioned anywhere in the article (which kinda implies that the statement has been copied verbatim from somewhere else). 91.106.175.8 ( talk) 09:16, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm sure I've come across Economy 7 houses where the storage heaters were on a separate circuit, which was only powered during the off-peak period. Am I imagining this? Do modern storage heaters have their own timers, rendering this unnecessary? -- Steved424 ( talk) 21:00, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Just to clarify, i'm currently just repairing a storage heater in this flat, and yes it's on its own circuit. So is the water heater (No Gas in the flat). we do have the option to turn the water heater on off peak using a timer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.106.196.47 ( talk) 22:59, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
There are 2 further tariffs like E7, offered by Scottish Power: Comfort plus control and comfort plu white meter. These have the heaters on their own circuit. They may also have a weathercall system whereby the heaters get extra charge, dictated by SP, when forecast is cold. I think there may be a tiny amount fo info on SP's website about them, as far as I know they are no longer offered o new properties. SSE's Totoal heat toal control is similar I think 2A02:C7D:D671:DA00:466:A53C:F482:1B4F ( talk) 06:14, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Why does this article contradict itself? Bad form.
"The above is often not the case however." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelward82 ( talk • contribs) 23:30, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
I have attemted to tidy up this section of the article. I have improved some of the wording and have removed some of the the contradictory uncited facts. 185.102.133.45 ( talk) 13:09, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
I have a large 10 KW storage cabinet (Electrick air)its 38 years old and not replace able now, small storage heaters are bulky and dont hold the heat long enough.I would like to use economy 7 with radiators from a large insulated water tank heated with 9 KW heater. I can put a tank in the basement. has ony one tried this, and what size tank is needed. at the moment I have modified the heater down to 8 K/Watts which is ample to heat the house. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.25.137.103 ( talk) 20:31, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
On what does the article base the claim that few houses have dedicated off peak wiring for storage and immersion heaters? 86.22.248.209 ( talk) 19:41, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
I just made a comment above. I have two circuits one which is switched on during off peak hours which the storage heaters and the immersion tank run off. There is a timer to turn the immersion on during off peak. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.106.196.47 ( talk) 23:00, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
In responce to this I have a flat on an estate constructed during the early 1970's and first served by the Southern Electricity Board: it has two indepenently fed arrays of circuit breackers (acting like a modern consumer unit) it was equiped with a teleswitch and the heateing and hotwater circuts are fed from one array only in the off-peak and the rest is supplied from the other arry fed all the time.
This system used was not economy-7 but an earlier type of tariff that was eventuly replaced for new connections by the economy-7 system. It was called White meter and had a night cycle from 11pm-7am allowing users to load and and set off machines like washing machines by hand at bed-time as well as supplying storage heaters for background heating. This time period was still good for load balenceing at that time but economy 7 focused more on heating both water and storage heating and was depolyed with stagered starts in the locality to reduce the peak switching effect of white meter. Economy 10 is a varation on the economy 7 concept with day time bosts for the cold climetes like scotland.
Modern flats I have seen been wrired for tri-tariff rates supply the cheapest only to the heating circuits this fits a plan that has the heating at a seperate rate from the day and night cycles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.1.62.136 ( talk) 20:44, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
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I have just landed on this article thanks to the Random Article button, and reading through it, something has occurred to me.
I seem to recall that at one time, Economy 7 had some kind of facility which allowed you to vary the times at which your heating, water, etc, was on. This meant it would come on for a couple of hours during the afternoon and evening, as well as at night. I have a vague memory of Victoria Wood appearing in an advert for one of the old electricity boards shortly after they were privatized, in which she talked about the facility. Anyone got a reference on that one?
Paul from Brum ( talk) 14:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Of course you can vary when your heating and water is put on to your heart's content... but that won't change what the 'off-peak' hours are, will it? If you want to change those, you need to be a Timelord. hth. 91.106.175.8 ( talk) 09:18, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Is it more expensive 'on peak' with Economy 7, or are the daytime prices the same as normal when you're on Economy 7? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.218.37 ( talk) 08:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
This statement does not make ANY sense in the context in which it is given. In the current context a house could have 0.01% of its consumption during off-peak and it would still be saving money. This implies that peak electricity is more expensive on Economy 7 (as the writer above asked) but this isn't mentioned anywhere in the article (which kinda implies that the statement has been copied verbatim from somewhere else). 91.106.175.8 ( talk) 09:16, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm sure I've come across Economy 7 houses where the storage heaters were on a separate circuit, which was only powered during the off-peak period. Am I imagining this? Do modern storage heaters have their own timers, rendering this unnecessary? -- Steved424 ( talk) 21:00, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Just to clarify, i'm currently just repairing a storage heater in this flat, and yes it's on its own circuit. So is the water heater (No Gas in the flat). we do have the option to turn the water heater on off peak using a timer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.106.196.47 ( talk) 22:59, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
There are 2 further tariffs like E7, offered by Scottish Power: Comfort plus control and comfort plu white meter. These have the heaters on their own circuit. They may also have a weathercall system whereby the heaters get extra charge, dictated by SP, when forecast is cold. I think there may be a tiny amount fo info on SP's website about them, as far as I know they are no longer offered o new properties. SSE's Totoal heat toal control is similar I think 2A02:C7D:D671:DA00:466:A53C:F482:1B4F ( talk) 06:14, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Why does this article contradict itself? Bad form.
"The above is often not the case however." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelward82 ( talk • contribs) 23:30, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
I have attemted to tidy up this section of the article. I have improved some of the wording and have removed some of the the contradictory uncited facts. 185.102.133.45 ( talk) 13:09, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
I have a large 10 KW storage cabinet (Electrick air)its 38 years old and not replace able now, small storage heaters are bulky and dont hold the heat long enough.I would like to use economy 7 with radiators from a large insulated water tank heated with 9 KW heater. I can put a tank in the basement. has ony one tried this, and what size tank is needed. at the moment I have modified the heater down to 8 K/Watts which is ample to heat the house. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.25.137.103 ( talk) 20:31, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
On what does the article base the claim that few houses have dedicated off peak wiring for storage and immersion heaters? 86.22.248.209 ( talk) 19:41, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
I just made a comment above. I have two circuits one which is switched on during off peak hours which the storage heaters and the immersion tank run off. There is a timer to turn the immersion on during off peak. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.106.196.47 ( talk) 23:00, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
In responce to this I have a flat on an estate constructed during the early 1970's and first served by the Southern Electricity Board: it has two indepenently fed arrays of circuit breackers (acting like a modern consumer unit) it was equiped with a teleswitch and the heateing and hotwater circuts are fed from one array only in the off-peak and the rest is supplied from the other arry fed all the time.
This system used was not economy-7 but an earlier type of tariff that was eventuly replaced for new connections by the economy-7 system. It was called White meter and had a night cycle from 11pm-7am allowing users to load and and set off machines like washing machines by hand at bed-time as well as supplying storage heaters for background heating. This time period was still good for load balenceing at that time but economy 7 focused more on heating both water and storage heating and was depolyed with stagered starts in the locality to reduce the peak switching effect of white meter. Economy 10 is a varation on the economy 7 concept with day time bosts for the cold climetes like scotland.
Modern flats I have seen been wrired for tri-tariff rates supply the cheapest only to the heating circuits this fits a plan that has the heating at a seperate rate from the day and night cycles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.1.62.136 ( talk) 20:44, 13 September 2011 (UTC)