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I've just bought Tolle's "The Power of Now", with his famous 'enlightenment-narrative'. Yet, it strikes me that his explanationwas formulated years after this experience, after he had started reading 'spiritual texts'. What he describes in his writings is similar to Samkhya: dissociating purusha, the witness-cosnciousness, from the rest of the activities of the mind. It seems to me that his explanation is an ad hoc explanation, a rationalization, missing the obvious point that such "enlightenment experiences" are more similar to the general category of "religious experience," and not to the Indian notion of 'awakening', 'being awake', which involves long training and gradual development. It sounds more like dissociation/ depersonalization, and a Google-seacrh elaborates this impression:
Eckhart Tolle describes his "DP/DR" experience in a recent interview regarding his own experience and journey. He didn't label it as "DP/DR" and instead chose to call it 'existential angst' or a 'dark night of the soul', in which the world and his own existence appeared 'foreign, unreal and without meaning', coupled with overwhelming anxiety to the point of panic and breathlessness. He even correlates his experience to Satre's "Nausia".
He has also stated elsewhere that the event that occured three years prior to 'the big event', when he followed a lady who was talking to herself into a university building and freaked-out when this catalyzed him into realizing his own constant 'mind-chatter' as being the first instant of being 'sucked into the void'. Tolle spent three years in constant anxiety and "DP/DR" and when the void opened up again, threatening to pull him into perceived annihilation, instead of resisting it through panic, he allowed himself to fall into it and made it to the 'otherside'.
From the perspective of Tolle's teaching, and many true spiritual teachings, particularly from other cultures, people with DP/DR are 'stuck' in the transition between death and rebirth. From Tolle's perspective, people with "DP/DR" are only a step away from enlightenment/self-realization. Consciousness has already withdrawn from form and is hanging onto the old by a thread.
It's often suggested that he just combined existing teachings to become popular and wealthy, rather than just referring to other teachings as they relate to his awakening and higher consciousness. Someone should point out his lifestyle. He doesn't live a luxurious high life with his $90 mil (and he's now 75 years old). He clearly has no interest in egotistic use of money, (not even fancy clothes, etc). His plans for the use of his wealth are centered on spreading the benefits of higher consciousness via a nonprofit. His detractors don't seem to have watched his talks and listened to his uniquely lighthearted way of illuminating truths. Cldupont ( talk) 12:27, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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I work for Eckhart Tolle and there are a few edits we would like to make to this Wikipedia page. Some of the edits are to correct factual inaccuracies, some are to update numbers/data, and some are to add more information. I realize we have a conflict of interest, and would like to know the best way to submit edits. Also wondering about citing certain information when it is coming directly from Mr. Tolle. Any help/advice is appreciated. SheilaLSharma ( talk) 21:38, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
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As mentioned in my topic above, I have a COI as I work for Eckhart Tolle, but I will start by requesting 1 edit, just to make sure I am submitting correctly:
Edit Request #1: Please add Stillness Speaks (2003)
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His books include The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment (1997), A New Earth: Awakening to Your Life's Purpose (2005) and the picture book Guardians of Being (2009).
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His books include The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment (1997), A New Earth: Awakening to Your Life's Purpose (2005), Stillness Speaks (2003), and the picture book Guardians of Being (2009). SheilaLSharma ( talk) 19:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
SheilaLSharma. please make sure your template appears properly when you post it. It should open up into an actually image with text in it. If your template is not posted properly, no editors who normally respond to these requests are ever going to see it. I just happened to see it because this article is on my watchlist and I happened to log on to Wikipedia today and checked my watchlist. Softlavender ( talk) 05:40, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
I've reverted the edit. Please indicate why it deserves such high prominence in the article. -- Hipal ( talk) 19:32, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
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Alma Mater King's College (University of London); Gonville and Caius (University of Cambridge)
SheilaLSharma ( talk) 17:34, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
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I've just bought Tolle's "The Power of Now", with his famous 'enlightenment-narrative'. Yet, it strikes me that his explanationwas formulated years after this experience, after he had started reading 'spiritual texts'. What he describes in his writings is similar to Samkhya: dissociating purusha, the witness-cosnciousness, from the rest of the activities of the mind. It seems to me that his explanation is an ad hoc explanation, a rationalization, missing the obvious point that such "enlightenment experiences" are more similar to the general category of "religious experience," and not to the Indian notion of 'awakening', 'being awake', which involves long training and gradual development. It sounds more like dissociation/ depersonalization, and a Google-seacrh elaborates this impression:
Eckhart Tolle describes his "DP/DR" experience in a recent interview regarding his own experience and journey. He didn't label it as "DP/DR" and instead chose to call it 'existential angst' or a 'dark night of the soul', in which the world and his own existence appeared 'foreign, unreal and without meaning', coupled with overwhelming anxiety to the point of panic and breathlessness. He even correlates his experience to Satre's "Nausia".
He has also stated elsewhere that the event that occured three years prior to 'the big event', when he followed a lady who was talking to herself into a university building and freaked-out when this catalyzed him into realizing his own constant 'mind-chatter' as being the first instant of being 'sucked into the void'. Tolle spent three years in constant anxiety and "DP/DR" and when the void opened up again, threatening to pull him into perceived annihilation, instead of resisting it through panic, he allowed himself to fall into it and made it to the 'otherside'.
From the perspective of Tolle's teaching, and many true spiritual teachings, particularly from other cultures, people with DP/DR are 'stuck' in the transition between death and rebirth. From Tolle's perspective, people with "DP/DR" are only a step away from enlightenment/self-realization. Consciousness has already withdrawn from form and is hanging onto the old by a thread.
It's often suggested that he just combined existing teachings to become popular and wealthy, rather than just referring to other teachings as they relate to his awakening and higher consciousness. Someone should point out his lifestyle. He doesn't live a luxurious high life with his $90 mil (and he's now 75 years old). He clearly has no interest in egotistic use of money, (not even fancy clothes, etc). His plans for the use of his wealth are centered on spreading the benefits of higher consciousness via a nonprofit. His detractors don't seem to have watched his talks and listened to his uniquely lighthearted way of illuminating truths. Cldupont ( talk) 12:27, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. [see below] |
I work for Eckhart Tolle and there are a few edits we would like to make to this Wikipedia page. Some of the edits are to correct factual inaccuracies, some are to update numbers/data, and some are to add more information. I realize we have a conflict of interest, and would like to know the best way to submit edits. Also wondering about citing certain information when it is coming directly from Mr. Tolle. Any help/advice is appreciated. SheilaLSharma ( talk) 21:38, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
As mentioned in my topic above, I have a COI as I work for Eckhart Tolle, but I will start by requesting 1 edit, just to make sure I am submitting correctly:
Edit Request #1: Please add Stillness Speaks (2003)
Current:
His books include The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment (1997), A New Earth: Awakening to Your Life's Purpose (2005) and the picture book Guardians of Being (2009).
Proposed Edit:
His books include The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment (1997), A New Earth: Awakening to Your Life's Purpose (2005), Stillness Speaks (2003), and the picture book Guardians of Being (2009). SheilaLSharma ( talk) 19:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
SheilaLSharma. please make sure your template appears properly when you post it. It should open up into an actually image with text in it. If your template is not posted properly, no editors who normally respond to these requests are ever going to see it. I just happened to see it because this article is on my watchlist and I happened to log on to Wikipedia today and checked my watchlist. Softlavender ( talk) 05:40, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
I've reverted the edit. Please indicate why it deserves such high prominence in the article. -- Hipal ( talk) 19:32, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
![]() | Part of an edit requested by an editor with a conflict of interest has been implemented. [see below] |
Alma Mater King's College (University of London); Gonville and Caius (University of Cambridge)
SheilaLSharma ( talk) 17:34, 5 January 2024 (UTC)