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I have been adding summary style sections and rewriting sections as summaries. I have been improving the sourcing and trying to improve the writing overall. If anyone has any comments, criticisms or suggestions, they would be quite welcome. Vassyana 16:11, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Where are the reliable sources that use the term dharmic religions in the context of this article? Dharmic religions is a now deleted obscure neologism and should not be used throughout Wikipedia. a good alternative is Indian religions. Andries 15:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I propose to use the alternative phrase Indian religions. The number of google scholar results for "Indian religions"+"Indian religion" is (45.600 + 84.200) while it is only (492+475) for "dharmic religions" +"dharmic religion". See Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_September_8. Andries 19:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I disagree. "Dharmic religions", neologism or not, is a better term than "Indian religions". While Buddhism is certainly a religion which originates in India, it is not an exclusively Indian religion; nowadays, it is primarily a non-Indian religion, in geographic terms, since a very small percentage of the Indian population currently follows Buddhism, while in other non-Indian cultures Buddhism is the majority religion. There is also a legitimate question to ask concerning non-Indian forms of Buddhism, to what extent are they purely based on Indian predecessors, and to what extent they incorporate non-Indian pre-Buddhist religious forms or practices. (e.g. how much influence has Tibetan shamanism or Bon had on Tibetan Buddhism? how much influence has Taoism had on Chinese Buddhism?) These are legitimate questions to which answers will differ, but the term "Indian religions" seems to prejudge the conclusion that the Indian influence is predominant and the non-Indian elements insignificant. So I don't like the phrase "Indian religions". "Indian religions" is a bad term for the same reason that calling Judaism/Christianity/Islam "Middle Eastern religions" is a bad term. And "Indian religions" could also be read as "religions found in India", in which case Islam is a major Indian religion. So even if "dharmic religions" is a neologism, it is a useful one, and a transparent one as well. Anyone familiar with these religions will instantly understand what the term "dharmic religions" is meant to mean, and find it clearer and more accurate than the alternative term "Indian religions." -- SJK ( talk) 00:05, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
"The use of this classification is waning due to Islam's place among the Abrahamic religions and Islamic academic abandonment of archaic Orientalism." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Editor2020 ( talk • contribs) 20:06, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Someone added dubious and cite flags to the lede. I will check back in here tomorrow for any comments that normally accompany such flagging. Regards, - Ste vertigo 08:55, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
This article does not reflect the way the term "Eastern religion" is actually used. In common usage, the "Eastern" religions are those that originated in India and China and are currently the dominant religions of Asia. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are considered Western religions because they originated in the western part of Asia and are currently the dominant religions of Europe and the Americas.
All of today's major world religions originated in Asia, so classifying all Asian religions as "Eastern" isn't very useful. Pterodactyler 15:22, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
The only remotely useful information on this incomplete page is the somewhat-dubious definition of 'Eastern Religion'. The rest can be found at the religions' respective pages. If there is no objection before tomorrow, I am going to rewrite this page. Turly-burly 07:14, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Why is there only the Dharmic religions here? What about Taoism and Confucianism? And don't the folk and animistic religions get a say?
Why are you classifying religions that originated in South Asia as Eastern Religions? It doesn't make sense now does it. 109.152.102.205 ( talk) 22:44, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved by rough consensus. Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 01:02, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Eastern religion → Eastern religions – It's a collective term. Arjun codename024 17:22, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Confucianism does not belong here, as it is NOT a religion. It is as an ideology that is humanistic and non-theistic, and does not involve a belief in the supernatural, a defining characteristic of any religious belief system. Otherwise we conflate all ideology and philosophical currents/traditions with religions? 24.5.69.164 ( talk) 19:47, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
This should have {{ WikiProject South Asia}} and {{ WikiProject Southeast Asia}} banners. 65.93.15.213 ( talk) 04:02, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
In Western religions page it talks about Secularization. Since country in the East experienced the same we should give it a mention. Doremon764 ( talk) 02:21, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Should we write a paragraph for each of these Religions? Doremon764 ( talk) 06:02, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
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I have been adding summary style sections and rewriting sections as summaries. I have been improving the sourcing and trying to improve the writing overall. If anyone has any comments, criticisms or suggestions, they would be quite welcome. Vassyana 16:11, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Where are the reliable sources that use the term dharmic religions in the context of this article? Dharmic religions is a now deleted obscure neologism and should not be used throughout Wikipedia. a good alternative is Indian religions. Andries 15:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I propose to use the alternative phrase Indian religions. The number of google scholar results for "Indian religions"+"Indian religion" is (45.600 + 84.200) while it is only (492+475) for "dharmic religions" +"dharmic religion". See Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_September_8. Andries 19:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I disagree. "Dharmic religions", neologism or not, is a better term than "Indian religions". While Buddhism is certainly a religion which originates in India, it is not an exclusively Indian religion; nowadays, it is primarily a non-Indian religion, in geographic terms, since a very small percentage of the Indian population currently follows Buddhism, while in other non-Indian cultures Buddhism is the majority religion. There is also a legitimate question to ask concerning non-Indian forms of Buddhism, to what extent are they purely based on Indian predecessors, and to what extent they incorporate non-Indian pre-Buddhist religious forms or practices. (e.g. how much influence has Tibetan shamanism or Bon had on Tibetan Buddhism? how much influence has Taoism had on Chinese Buddhism?) These are legitimate questions to which answers will differ, but the term "Indian religions" seems to prejudge the conclusion that the Indian influence is predominant and the non-Indian elements insignificant. So I don't like the phrase "Indian religions". "Indian religions" is a bad term for the same reason that calling Judaism/Christianity/Islam "Middle Eastern religions" is a bad term. And "Indian religions" could also be read as "religions found in India", in which case Islam is a major Indian religion. So even if "dharmic religions" is a neologism, it is a useful one, and a transparent one as well. Anyone familiar with these religions will instantly understand what the term "dharmic religions" is meant to mean, and find it clearer and more accurate than the alternative term "Indian religions." -- SJK ( talk) 00:05, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
"The use of this classification is waning due to Islam's place among the Abrahamic religions and Islamic academic abandonment of archaic Orientalism." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Editor2020 ( talk • contribs) 20:06, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Someone added dubious and cite flags to the lede. I will check back in here tomorrow for any comments that normally accompany such flagging. Regards, - Ste vertigo 08:55, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
This article does not reflect the way the term "Eastern religion" is actually used. In common usage, the "Eastern" religions are those that originated in India and China and are currently the dominant religions of Asia. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are considered Western religions because they originated in the western part of Asia and are currently the dominant religions of Europe and the Americas.
All of today's major world religions originated in Asia, so classifying all Asian religions as "Eastern" isn't very useful. Pterodactyler 15:22, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
The only remotely useful information on this incomplete page is the somewhat-dubious definition of 'Eastern Religion'. The rest can be found at the religions' respective pages. If there is no objection before tomorrow, I am going to rewrite this page. Turly-burly 07:14, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Why is there only the Dharmic religions here? What about Taoism and Confucianism? And don't the folk and animistic religions get a say?
Why are you classifying religions that originated in South Asia as Eastern Religions? It doesn't make sense now does it. 109.152.102.205 ( talk) 22:44, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved by rough consensus. Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 01:02, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Eastern religion → Eastern religions – It's a collective term. Arjun codename024 17:22, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Confucianism does not belong here, as it is NOT a religion. It is as an ideology that is humanistic and non-theistic, and does not involve a belief in the supernatural, a defining characteristic of any religious belief system. Otherwise we conflate all ideology and philosophical currents/traditions with religions? 24.5.69.164 ( talk) 19:47, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
This should have {{ WikiProject South Asia}} and {{ WikiProject Southeast Asia}} banners. 65.93.15.213 ( talk) 04:02, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
In Western religions page it talks about Secularization. Since country in the East experienced the same we should give it a mention. Doremon764 ( talk) 02:21, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Should we write a paragraph for each of these Religions? Doremon764 ( talk) 06:02, 21 June 2021 (UTC)