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This article is on my watchlist, so the recent activity caught my eye. I noticed that all of the citations, other than the CAB accident report, are subscriber-only NY Times links. At the moment I can't read any of them because I've already reached my NY Times free article limit; what that limit is, and how often it's reset, I don't know. As a friendly suggestion, Google Books advanced search ( https://books.google.com/advanced_book_search?hl=en ) can find dozens of relevant newspaper articles that are fully-readable to anyone. For this crash, this link would accomplish this...
Yes, I know it's a lot more work to dig out the nuggets of information this way. I speak from experience. When I got a GA years ago for United Airlines Flight 736 I didn't even have a copy of the official CAB report to work with; it was missing from all the government archives for unknown reasons, and when I last checked, it STILL is. So, with no report, I simply had no option but to dive into a lot of online newspaper and magazine articles, and I found a treasure trove of information via court cases at openjurist.org and other similar sites.
The CAB report finally surfaced online years later. but it was buried in a compendium of other CAB reports that a fellow wikipedian stumbled upon at Google books. He put the compendium link on the talk page (I had asked for help finding the report there), and I extracted the report I needed. I then posted it online in a page-by-page format that doesn't require any PDF download to read. Also, the page number can be addressed directly in a url. I've slowly been incorporating the report contents into the United Airlines Flight 736 article over time.
Today I've uploaded the Eastern Flight 512 accident report into the page-accessible format, in case anyone working on the article finds it useful to assist readers desiring quick access to specific page numbers via cites...
https://archive.org/details/cab-aar-1962-11-30-eastern-512/mode/2up
To access page 15 directly, for example, use:
https://archive.org/details/cab-aar-1962-11-30-eastern-512/page/n15/mode/2up
It's not necessary, of course, to incorporate any of this into the article, but I figured it can't hurt to mention alternate ways of providing sources that any article reader can verify for themselves, without subscriptions or downloads. Thanks for taking the time to read this. Regards, Itsfullofstars ( talk) 05:33, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
Eastern Air Lines Flight 512 has been listed as one of the Engineering and technology good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it. | |||||||||||||
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Current status: Good article |
This article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||
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This article is on my watchlist, so the recent activity caught my eye. I noticed that all of the citations, other than the CAB accident report, are subscriber-only NY Times links. At the moment I can't read any of them because I've already reached my NY Times free article limit; what that limit is, and how often it's reset, I don't know. As a friendly suggestion, Google Books advanced search ( https://books.google.com/advanced_book_search?hl=en ) can find dozens of relevant newspaper articles that are fully-readable to anyone. For this crash, this link would accomplish this...
Yes, I know it's a lot more work to dig out the nuggets of information this way. I speak from experience. When I got a GA years ago for United Airlines Flight 736 I didn't even have a copy of the official CAB report to work with; it was missing from all the government archives for unknown reasons, and when I last checked, it STILL is. So, with no report, I simply had no option but to dive into a lot of online newspaper and magazine articles, and I found a treasure trove of information via court cases at openjurist.org and other similar sites.
The CAB report finally surfaced online years later. but it was buried in a compendium of other CAB reports that a fellow wikipedian stumbled upon at Google books. He put the compendium link on the talk page (I had asked for help finding the report there), and I extracted the report I needed. I then posted it online in a page-by-page format that doesn't require any PDF download to read. Also, the page number can be addressed directly in a url. I've slowly been incorporating the report contents into the United Airlines Flight 736 article over time.
Today I've uploaded the Eastern Flight 512 accident report into the page-accessible format, in case anyone working on the article finds it useful to assist readers desiring quick access to specific page numbers via cites...
https://archive.org/details/cab-aar-1962-11-30-eastern-512/mode/2up
To access page 15 directly, for example, use:
https://archive.org/details/cab-aar-1962-11-30-eastern-512/page/n15/mode/2up
It's not necessary, of course, to incorporate any of this into the article, but I figured it can't hurt to mention alternate ways of providing sources that any article reader can verify for themselves, without subscriptions or downloads. Thanks for taking the time to read this. Regards, Itsfullofstars ( talk) 05:33, 20 July 2021 (UTC)