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Am I right in thinking there was no polar ice cap during the Cretaceous? If so, this needs to be said in the article, to clarify the section on climate. The Singing Badger 15:49, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I don't think there was, (the scope of this article is about Northern Antartica at the time), but as soon as I can confirm it one way or another I slap it in! Sabine 15:52, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
( Bubblesorg ( talk) 01:47, 26 May 2018 (UTC))I did find something about dinosaurs living in the artic. Booth in Smithsonian and BBC's Walking with Series. [1] [2]
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Should this article's title simply be Polar dinosaurs? It deals with dinosaurs found in both Australia and Antarctica and indeed it's not logical to treat the continents separately since they were joined together at the time. The Singing Badger 17:36, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
The end product, "
Polar Dinosaurs in Australia" has a syncopated lilt to it. (Was that their live tour album or their come-back album?) --
Wetman 20:45, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
"This combination of a habitable terrain with a long polar night is an ecological circumstance that has no present day analogue." Actually some parts of the Norwegian arctic go close. There is some forest, and historically has been agriculture and animal herding there. However it declines into tundra before you get as close to the pole as Dinosaur Cove probably was. Spitzbergen is very high in the arctic and by some definitions barely habitable. It has tundra vegetation and a few large animals.
The ability of polar dinosaurs to survive a cold polar night makes it almost certain they were endothermic. I think it's worth of notion in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.166.232.135 ( talk) 01:51, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
"Given that the dinosaurs and other fauna of Cretaceous were well adapted for living in long periods of dark and cold weather, it has been postulated that this community might have survived the Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event which exterminated the non-avian dinosaurs .... 'Reports earlier this year that dwarf mammoths survived to early historical times, in islands off the coast of Siberia, give force to such speculation.' " -- I should think that this comparison is pretty shaky, given that mammoths were probably killed off by primates with pointy sticks, and dinosaurs (quite likely) by an asteroid impact. - You can run, but you sure can't hide. -- 201.53.7.16 ( talk) 11:23, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
This is the problem with Paleocene dinosaurs section. [1]
I need help on this.-- Bubblesorg ( talk) 18:56, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
I did not list this under a GA Review, both because I have edited the article quite a bit and it would be like a "COI" of some kind, but also because I think this is more like a pre-review.
Tisquesusa ( talk) 17:01, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
yes i am getting everything under control. -- Bubblesorg ( talk) 16:32, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
I would rather call it South Polar region IN the Cretaceous, analogous to France in the Middle ages. In my view, the current title assumes that a region is part of an era. But they are fundamentally different types of phenomena. In other words: Doesn't the current title imply that a region is part of an era and isn't that wrong?
I would also suggest that The should be added in the beginning. -- Ettrig ( talk) 10:22, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Jens Lallensack ( talk · contribs) 09:04, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Happy to take the review. Unfortunately, I see multiple issues with this article, most importantly regarding the lemma and scope.
Disregarding scope and lemma, the article has multiple problems. The structure needs to be redone (grouping the vegetation under "landscape" rather than under "ecology" makes little sense to me, for instance). Background is lacking, and any discussion on paleogeography. The sedimentary basis in general should be pointed out before addressing individual formations. A common thread to the information is missing, especially the geology section seems to be a conglomerate of certain details without context. Invertebrates are far underrepresented.
Some specific examples from the lead:
As the article is not close to GA by any means, I probably need to fail it. -- Jens Lallensack ( talk) 09:04, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Sure, whats the problem?-- Bubblesorg ( talk) 04:17, 12 November 2018 (UTC) ok heres what I found. https://australianmuseum.net.au/image/map-of-world-early-cretaceous. -- Bubblesorg ( talk) 21:14, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
sorry man just in a bit of a wonky state. I will get back. So climatic development is fine. I think thanks to not research done on its climate its a bit spotty-- Bubblesorg ( talk) 02:19, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Temperate rainforests near the South Pole during peak Cretaceous warmth, Published today in Nature Hemiauchenia ( talk) 15:56, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 ( talk) 16:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
South Polar region of the Cretaceous → East Gondwana – the continent seems more fitting than "South Polar region of the Cretaceous" Eugenia ioessa ( talk) 08:05, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
East Gondwana was nominated as a Natural sciences good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (November 23, 2018). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated. |
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On 1 July 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from South Polar region of the Cretaceous to East Gondwana. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Am I right in thinking there was no polar ice cap during the Cretaceous? If so, this needs to be said in the article, to clarify the section on climate. The Singing Badger 15:49, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I don't think there was, (the scope of this article is about Northern Antartica at the time), but as soon as I can confirm it one way or another I slap it in! Sabine 15:52, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
( Bubblesorg ( talk) 01:47, 26 May 2018 (UTC))I did find something about dinosaurs living in the artic. Booth in Smithsonian and BBC's Walking with Series. [1] [2]
References
Should this article's title simply be Polar dinosaurs? It deals with dinosaurs found in both Australia and Antarctica and indeed it's not logical to treat the continents separately since they were joined together at the time. The Singing Badger 17:36, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
The end product, "
Polar Dinosaurs in Australia" has a syncopated lilt to it. (Was that their live tour album or their come-back album?) --
Wetman 20:45, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
"This combination of a habitable terrain with a long polar night is an ecological circumstance that has no present day analogue." Actually some parts of the Norwegian arctic go close. There is some forest, and historically has been agriculture and animal herding there. However it declines into tundra before you get as close to the pole as Dinosaur Cove probably was. Spitzbergen is very high in the arctic and by some definitions barely habitable. It has tundra vegetation and a few large animals.
The ability of polar dinosaurs to survive a cold polar night makes it almost certain they were endothermic. I think it's worth of notion in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.166.232.135 ( talk) 01:51, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
"Given that the dinosaurs and other fauna of Cretaceous were well adapted for living in long periods of dark and cold weather, it has been postulated that this community might have survived the Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event which exterminated the non-avian dinosaurs .... 'Reports earlier this year that dwarf mammoths survived to early historical times, in islands off the coast of Siberia, give force to such speculation.' " -- I should think that this comparison is pretty shaky, given that mammoths were probably killed off by primates with pointy sticks, and dinosaurs (quite likely) by an asteroid impact. - You can run, but you sure can't hide. -- 201.53.7.16 ( talk) 11:23, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
This is the problem with Paleocene dinosaurs section. [1]
I need help on this.-- Bubblesorg ( talk) 18:56, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
I did not list this under a GA Review, both because I have edited the article quite a bit and it would be like a "COI" of some kind, but also because I think this is more like a pre-review.
Tisquesusa ( talk) 17:01, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
yes i am getting everything under control. -- Bubblesorg ( talk) 16:32, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
I would rather call it South Polar region IN the Cretaceous, analogous to France in the Middle ages. In my view, the current title assumes that a region is part of an era. But they are fundamentally different types of phenomena. In other words: Doesn't the current title imply that a region is part of an era and isn't that wrong?
I would also suggest that The should be added in the beginning. -- Ettrig ( talk) 10:22, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
GA toolbox |
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Reviewing |
Reviewer: Jens Lallensack ( talk · contribs) 09:04, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Happy to take the review. Unfortunately, I see multiple issues with this article, most importantly regarding the lemma and scope.
Disregarding scope and lemma, the article has multiple problems. The structure needs to be redone (grouping the vegetation under "landscape" rather than under "ecology" makes little sense to me, for instance). Background is lacking, and any discussion on paleogeography. The sedimentary basis in general should be pointed out before addressing individual formations. A common thread to the information is missing, especially the geology section seems to be a conglomerate of certain details without context. Invertebrates are far underrepresented.
Some specific examples from the lead:
As the article is not close to GA by any means, I probably need to fail it. -- Jens Lallensack ( talk) 09:04, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Sure, whats the problem?-- Bubblesorg ( talk) 04:17, 12 November 2018 (UTC) ok heres what I found. https://australianmuseum.net.au/image/map-of-world-early-cretaceous. -- Bubblesorg ( talk) 21:14, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
sorry man just in a bit of a wonky state. I will get back. So climatic development is fine. I think thanks to not research done on its climate its a bit spotty-- Bubblesorg ( talk) 02:19, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Temperate rainforests near the South Pole during peak Cretaceous warmth, Published today in Nature Hemiauchenia ( talk) 15:56, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 ( talk) 16:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
South Polar region of the Cretaceous → East Gondwana – the continent seems more fitting than "South Polar region of the Cretaceous" Eugenia ioessa ( talk) 08:05, 1 July 2024 (UTC)