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I have taken the time to contribute information regaurding namming history and some environmental issues. I also added bits and pieces and edited out maybe 2 or 3 words. I do realise this article is written in a majorly not Neutral Point of View way, but that is the nature of the issue! If somone could take the real issues, and all of them, not editing things to make them appear as though they dont exist because most of them do, that would be much apreciated.
If anyone has any problems with any issues or anything AT ALL regaurding this article, please refer them to me so we can discuss them openly and sort out fact from fiction and get this article happening properly.
I'm not affraid to say that I can't write about this article in a non-NPOV way, but with some help and some major feedback, major referencing work, and sorting out every issue, we'll get this article written properly... Once it is I'll gaurd it with my life from vandalisation, certain issues surrounding this project need to be adressed correctly.
Thanks Nick carson 07:23, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
"tolled freeway"? Isn't that an oxymoron? ozzmosis 06:12, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
-- Commking 10:05, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
EDIT: I didn't realise I was restating the above! But maybe it should be left just as that.
Different people call it different things, and companies are worse. My view is:
I think I'll change it, and if anyone has any issues they can talk to me on my talk page or here on the discussion page rather than edit it back to tolled freeway. Nick carson 14:51, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
An external source states that:
I also have compiled information on the definition of every type of road in Victoria. Nick carson 15:11, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
A tolled freeway is what it is. Nick, you have no consensus - as Evan points out, Melway is not an official source, nor an authority on what roads should be called. May I also point out that there is no Wikipedia article for Tollway - it is simply a term coined by the media. Please don't edit the article again with your personal opinions, without a consensus. Thanks. -- Commking 03:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Eastlink uses the term motorway rather than freeway - "tolled motorway" is more appropriate. - "With 39km of motorway, by-passing at least 45 traffic lights, EastLink will create new opportunities for saving time. Use EastLink, and your time will be better spent." from http://www.eastlink.com.au/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.105.54.161 ( talk) 09:15, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
The "term" motorway has come into use in other Australian cities in more recent years, where once "freeway" was the standard, particularly for toll roads. It is also the basis for the route numbering of freeway-grade roads in Victoria, e.g. M1, M3 NOT F1, F3. Noting these changes in usage in Australia, if it is being referred to as a "motorway" on its own website then surely that is the term that should be used here, even if other roads (e.g. Monash Freeway, Eastern Freeway) use a different name for essentially the same thing. 220.238.210.208 ( talk) 22:20, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
124.190.198.64 ( talk) 03:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Non-NPOV shifted here for reference restoring article's neutrality:
Glad you removed it - its a bunch of very left-wing assertions - similar sort of people run the local council in Richmond that refuses to widen roads to ease bottlenecks - and no i don't live in Richmond i just hate left wing kooks. PMA
Isn't the Mitcham-Frankston Freeway now called EastLink, at least by Premier Bracks? - EuropracBHIT 02:25, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC).
I disagree with the removal of the controversies - this article needs its controversies replaced in order to be factual. While actual views don't need to be expressed, the controversy itself is real, a reportable historical component of the road's development, yet not mentioned once in the article. The result to a casual reader like myself is that the article does not seem to reciprocate well with other Victorian articles such as Steve Bracks. That said, other facts about its benefit would also be useful, such as estimated travel times - passerby Adam 22:47, 9 Jun 2005
The first paragraph in the Controversies section is not NPOV and needs revision.
Beceause this article could really do with an image, I have emailled SEITA and ConnectEast requesting that one or two be released for Wikipedia. Will add any responses I receive here. -- Evan C ( Talk) 11:55, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Oh, please. This isn't exactly NPOV writing! - Ta bu shi da yu 11:42, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The whole 'environmental issues' section needs to be sourced. it is written as if it is fact whereas it is a point of view. Many anti-roads academics would argue that the induced traffic phenomenon will lead to more vehicles using the road without any environmental gains. If anybody is interested in presenting both sides to the argument and writing a NPOV article then you may want look up some of the work done by Dr Paul Mees of Melbourne University on the issue. There is quite a bit online if you google Paul Mees and Scoresby, EastLink or related words. In the meantime, would it be appropriate to add one of these tags to the section to indicate that it provides only one point of view and is unreferenced? -- Adz| talk 06:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
I find this paragraph: "The option chosen - for two long tunnels - was the most expensive, but most environmentally friendly." is misleading. option 3 was the most expensive option (short term costs only), with the longest tunnel length, but I believe option 2 was chosen [4] [5] instead. The environmental impact on the freeway to the Mullum Valley has still been significant (sorry no references yet). -- Brian May 04:44, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Suggestion for removal of this paragraph which can be found in the Environmental Issues section of this article:
Connex did try to warn commuters about the train line being closed - via signs posted at all stations, radio annoucements, and an annoucenment on their website. However, the warning was not carried accross to the Metlink website, and no information was provided via the SMS service. In the notification (which no longer appears to be available), from memory, they the trip was expected to take up to 30 minutes longer (which was wrong - I was delayed closer to 1 hour 45 minutes). I don't know what time these warnings were posted; I heard the radio announcement at about 7:35am. As such, as much as I don't like Connex, I think it is unfair to say "the line was closed for the morning with no effort to alert commuters of the closure", so I changed it. -- Brian May 23:39, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
If the eastlink is a free way then why when you travel on citylink you notice the signs change from "freeway" to "tollway". This is to advise you that you are entering the tollway section of that road. Therefore Eastlink as it is tolled the whole way is NOT a Freeway it is a Tollway. Have the public relation officers at Eastlink been editing wiki??? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JDAY83 ( talk • contribs) 00:24, 2 April 2007 (UTC).
The seita and Eastlink websites make no mention of this road being a "tolled freeway", it is known on these websites as either a tollway or motorway, and the connecteast website describes it as a "freeway standard" tollway, also, the CityLink website and Transurban website refer to CityLink as either a motorway or tollway, no mention of it being a "tolled freeway", whats the difference between a freeway and motorway? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispain ( talk • contribs) 21:15, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Several English dictionaries describe an Expressway (US) and a Motorway (UK) as a high speed divided highway for through traffic with partially or fully controlled access and grade seperated intersections. A Freeway is an Expressway that is toll free and a Tollway is an Expressway where a toll is collected. A Turnpike is a tolled Expressway where a tollgate or pike is lowered to stop traffic in order to pay the toll, this comes from the medievel English word that was used at the time when the Kings Pikemen were used to stop traffic on the Kings Highways to pay a toll to the King for using his roads. Turnpike is only used in the USA today and not in the UK because in the UK turnpikes were dismantled in the late 1800's as a way of competing against the rise of public transport, people would rather travel on trains than pay a toll on the roads. Are we in the State of Victoria using the wrong word to describe an Expressway/Motorway? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispain ( talk • contribs) 11:52, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
It has been added to the article that the tollway will be signed M3 when it opens. Is there a source on this. When Victoria went through the route system changes, I rode down the Eastern Freeway before it opened and all signs were labelled with M3 on them but all got coverplated with 83 before the freeway opened. Was this the reason for it? What are others views on this. -- Lakeyboy 09:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I've gone through and removed all route numbers not shown in the current edition of Melway (Ed34/2007). Until an official/published source of some kind is found for each, I would ask that people refrain from adding them. -- Evan C ( Talk) 11:26, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
UPDATE I have now got confirmation that EastLink will indeed be signed M3. If anyone wants proof, go to the city bound onramp entry at Boronia Road and look under the material covering the sign. It says < M3 Ringwood | . Will make changes to the article now. -- Lakeyboy 08:08, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
I've also just realised that this route numbering decision must have been part of a larger plan. As I said above, before the Eastern Freeway extension opened in late 1997, and I rode down the freeway on my bike to have a look and all the signs had M3 on them but got covered with 83 when the freeway opened (which you can tell by looking at any Eastern Freeway 83 sign with the 83 part stuck over the top of the M3 part). Now the plan has come full circle. Now the question is what will happen to the rest of route 83 east of Hoddle Street and if it will stay as is or will get a different route number. I personally doubt it. -- Lakeyboy 06:08, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
It might not be long until a metro MABC conversion is upon us. Found this picture of a Canterbury kilometre distance sign near EastLink stating B34! Why it says B34 instead of B32 is beyond me. Must be a complete overhawl of the route numbering system. Pic here: http://members.optusnet.com.au/mainroadsvic/D/RD1%202008.jpg -- Lakeyboy ( talk) 11:05, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
I did see the sign for real but it had 32 on it when I saw it. I just assumed they coverplated it. If it is photoshopped, they did a good job of it, but I knew something was fishy about it. -- Lakeyboy ( talk) 10:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
If suburban Melbourne converts to the alpha-numeric signs, I don't think the Eastern Hwy can become the A3, that would be for the Nepean Hwy, which is currently metro-3, Nepean Hwy would have to become the A3, just like the Princes Hwy (Dandenong Rd) would become the A1? How did Eastlink/Eastern fwy get M3, the original sign for eastern Fwy was F19 and Eastlink was F35. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispain ( talk • contribs) 03:29, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
A friend of mine is a councillor for a council along the Eastlink route. He says Eastlink are telling them it'll be done in March 2008. And no, I can't provide references! -- Commking 11:36, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
It says in the article that the media coined "mitcham to frankston freeway". I remember going to the official website for the freeway (before it was called Eastlink) and the website's URL was "www.mitchamfranksstonproject.com.au"... So yeah it makes no sense really. Jamesbehave 17:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I have added "limited access" to the Monash Freeway interchange because there is no access to the M1 eastbound (towards Dandenong) from the northbound carriageway of Eastlink. Mal1988 ( talk) 09:57, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
If you have a look at the Melway, it actually states that between Patterson Lakes/Mornington Peninsula Fwy and Frankston-Dandenong Road, that it is Thompson Rd, without the "s". This is also where Eastlink's junction is between. The section after Dandenong-Frankston Rd is then named Thompsons Rd with the "s". Do not revert. Mal1988 ( talk) 03:48, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Luke, can we have a map made of the route, showing its placement around greater Melbourne?
Thanks,
WikiDon ( talk) 23:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
What is the source for the 'Eastern Ring Road" name. I'm unconvinced this was the 'original' name for the project. 203.202.145.170 ( talk) 04:00, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Now that EastLink is open for business, I think that it is the perfect time to organise the article and determine what needs to be included in the article and what gets left out. My inspiration for this is the only Featured Articles on roads on Wikipedia ( Interstate 15 in Arizona, Interstate 355, Interstate 70 in Utah, New York State Route 28, New York State Route 32 and New York State Route 174).
This is my first draft of what I think the Table of Contents should look like. This is all coming off the top of my head so don't treat this as the final solution.
INTRODUCTION
What do you all think? What would add/remove/change. I wish to bring this article up to GA and set this article as the standard for Australian road articles on Wikipedia. -- Lakeyboy ( talk) 09:15, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
I went out today to take some pics of EastLink and the EastLink Trail between Koomba Park and Springvale Road today. Pictures which I deem worthy of adding to the article will be placed here in a gallery. I have also added lat-long coordinates to the images shown below. -- Lakeyboy ( talk) 09:17, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
There is an item under controversies that states that the State Government will be entitled to revenue from additional traffic onto Eastlink if public roads are restricted. This needs a reference to verify its validity or needs to be removed. I have not been able to verify this and suspect that it is an old rumour. GrahamP ( talk) 22:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
There is a Herald Sun article today detailing increased traffic congestion on the Frankston Freeway due to Eastlink. [6] Might be able to use it as a reference. -- ozzmosis ( talk) 10:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
I've just looked at this article for the very first time. The first paragraph reads like a Liberal Party press release form 2004. I acknowledge the issue of tolling WAS a big political one during construction, but it has faded away these days. It certainly deserves a mention in the history and/or controversies sections, but it should not three quarters of the first paragraph. And while noting the extensive discussion above, I live in the eastern suburbs and use Eastlink several times a month and have heard heard or seen the term tolled freeway apart from in this article. It reads like one of those terms designed by committee. HiLo48 ( talk) 08:35, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
EastLink has now been open for 4 years. The ownership structure has changed (ConnectEast is now a private company, not listed on the ASX), traffic has increased to 200,000 trips a day, more than 500,000 Breeze tags have been issued to customers, the first of two BP service stations has opened on EastLink operated by Melbourne company AA Holdings, the new un-tolled Peninsula Link freeway is due to open by early 2013, two new interchanges will open soon (Peninsula Link and Caribbean Gardens), EastLink is one of Victoria's safest freeways in terms of casual accident rates per 100Mkm, two major cycle events are held annually on EastLink (Hanover ConnectEast Ride for Home - the second biggest cycle event in Victoria; and the bike leg of Ironman Melbourne one of the most important Ironman events globally), EastLink sponsors a road safety program with Eastern Football League, Mornington Peninsula Football League and Dandenong Basketball, EastLink also sponsors Frankston Arts Centre and Football Fives at Knox Regional Sports Park.
Please contact Doug Spencer-Roy dsroy@connecteast.com.au for up to date information and photography to assist with updating this wiki entry (including photography of the cycle events), we are very happy to help. Dspencerroy ( talk) 12:07, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
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I have taken the time to contribute information regaurding namming history and some environmental issues. I also added bits and pieces and edited out maybe 2 or 3 words. I do realise this article is written in a majorly not Neutral Point of View way, but that is the nature of the issue! If somone could take the real issues, and all of them, not editing things to make them appear as though they dont exist because most of them do, that would be much apreciated.
If anyone has any problems with any issues or anything AT ALL regaurding this article, please refer them to me so we can discuss them openly and sort out fact from fiction and get this article happening properly.
I'm not affraid to say that I can't write about this article in a non-NPOV way, but with some help and some major feedback, major referencing work, and sorting out every issue, we'll get this article written properly... Once it is I'll gaurd it with my life from vandalisation, certain issues surrounding this project need to be adressed correctly.
Thanks Nick carson 07:23, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
"tolled freeway"? Isn't that an oxymoron? ozzmosis 06:12, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
-- Commking 10:05, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
EDIT: I didn't realise I was restating the above! But maybe it should be left just as that.
Different people call it different things, and companies are worse. My view is:
I think I'll change it, and if anyone has any issues they can talk to me on my talk page or here on the discussion page rather than edit it back to tolled freeway. Nick carson 14:51, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
An external source states that:
I also have compiled information on the definition of every type of road in Victoria. Nick carson 15:11, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
A tolled freeway is what it is. Nick, you have no consensus - as Evan points out, Melway is not an official source, nor an authority on what roads should be called. May I also point out that there is no Wikipedia article for Tollway - it is simply a term coined by the media. Please don't edit the article again with your personal opinions, without a consensus. Thanks. -- Commking 03:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Eastlink uses the term motorway rather than freeway - "tolled motorway" is more appropriate. - "With 39km of motorway, by-passing at least 45 traffic lights, EastLink will create new opportunities for saving time. Use EastLink, and your time will be better spent." from http://www.eastlink.com.au/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.105.54.161 ( talk) 09:15, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
The "term" motorway has come into use in other Australian cities in more recent years, where once "freeway" was the standard, particularly for toll roads. It is also the basis for the route numbering of freeway-grade roads in Victoria, e.g. M1, M3 NOT F1, F3. Noting these changes in usage in Australia, if it is being referred to as a "motorway" on its own website then surely that is the term that should be used here, even if other roads (e.g. Monash Freeway, Eastern Freeway) use a different name for essentially the same thing. 220.238.210.208 ( talk) 22:20, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
124.190.198.64 ( talk) 03:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Non-NPOV shifted here for reference restoring article's neutrality:
Glad you removed it - its a bunch of very left-wing assertions - similar sort of people run the local council in Richmond that refuses to widen roads to ease bottlenecks - and no i don't live in Richmond i just hate left wing kooks. PMA
Isn't the Mitcham-Frankston Freeway now called EastLink, at least by Premier Bracks? - EuropracBHIT 02:25, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC).
I disagree with the removal of the controversies - this article needs its controversies replaced in order to be factual. While actual views don't need to be expressed, the controversy itself is real, a reportable historical component of the road's development, yet not mentioned once in the article. The result to a casual reader like myself is that the article does not seem to reciprocate well with other Victorian articles such as Steve Bracks. That said, other facts about its benefit would also be useful, such as estimated travel times - passerby Adam 22:47, 9 Jun 2005
The first paragraph in the Controversies section is not NPOV and needs revision.
Beceause this article could really do with an image, I have emailled SEITA and ConnectEast requesting that one or two be released for Wikipedia. Will add any responses I receive here. -- Evan C ( Talk) 11:55, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Oh, please. This isn't exactly NPOV writing! - Ta bu shi da yu 11:42, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The whole 'environmental issues' section needs to be sourced. it is written as if it is fact whereas it is a point of view. Many anti-roads academics would argue that the induced traffic phenomenon will lead to more vehicles using the road without any environmental gains. If anybody is interested in presenting both sides to the argument and writing a NPOV article then you may want look up some of the work done by Dr Paul Mees of Melbourne University on the issue. There is quite a bit online if you google Paul Mees and Scoresby, EastLink or related words. In the meantime, would it be appropriate to add one of these tags to the section to indicate that it provides only one point of view and is unreferenced? -- Adz| talk 06:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
I find this paragraph: "The option chosen - for two long tunnels - was the most expensive, but most environmentally friendly." is misleading. option 3 was the most expensive option (short term costs only), with the longest tunnel length, but I believe option 2 was chosen [4] [5] instead. The environmental impact on the freeway to the Mullum Valley has still been significant (sorry no references yet). -- Brian May 04:44, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Suggestion for removal of this paragraph which can be found in the Environmental Issues section of this article:
Connex did try to warn commuters about the train line being closed - via signs posted at all stations, radio annoucements, and an annoucenment on their website. However, the warning was not carried accross to the Metlink website, and no information was provided via the SMS service. In the notification (which no longer appears to be available), from memory, they the trip was expected to take up to 30 minutes longer (which was wrong - I was delayed closer to 1 hour 45 minutes). I don't know what time these warnings were posted; I heard the radio announcement at about 7:35am. As such, as much as I don't like Connex, I think it is unfair to say "the line was closed for the morning with no effort to alert commuters of the closure", so I changed it. -- Brian May 23:39, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
If the eastlink is a free way then why when you travel on citylink you notice the signs change from "freeway" to "tollway". This is to advise you that you are entering the tollway section of that road. Therefore Eastlink as it is tolled the whole way is NOT a Freeway it is a Tollway. Have the public relation officers at Eastlink been editing wiki??? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JDAY83 ( talk • contribs) 00:24, 2 April 2007 (UTC).
The seita and Eastlink websites make no mention of this road being a "tolled freeway", it is known on these websites as either a tollway or motorway, and the connecteast website describes it as a "freeway standard" tollway, also, the CityLink website and Transurban website refer to CityLink as either a motorway or tollway, no mention of it being a "tolled freeway", whats the difference between a freeway and motorway? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispain ( talk • contribs) 21:15, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Several English dictionaries describe an Expressway (US) and a Motorway (UK) as a high speed divided highway for through traffic with partially or fully controlled access and grade seperated intersections. A Freeway is an Expressway that is toll free and a Tollway is an Expressway where a toll is collected. A Turnpike is a tolled Expressway where a tollgate or pike is lowered to stop traffic in order to pay the toll, this comes from the medievel English word that was used at the time when the Kings Pikemen were used to stop traffic on the Kings Highways to pay a toll to the King for using his roads. Turnpike is only used in the USA today and not in the UK because in the UK turnpikes were dismantled in the late 1800's as a way of competing against the rise of public transport, people would rather travel on trains than pay a toll on the roads. Are we in the State of Victoria using the wrong word to describe an Expressway/Motorway? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispain ( talk • contribs) 11:52, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
It has been added to the article that the tollway will be signed M3 when it opens. Is there a source on this. When Victoria went through the route system changes, I rode down the Eastern Freeway before it opened and all signs were labelled with M3 on them but all got coverplated with 83 before the freeway opened. Was this the reason for it? What are others views on this. -- Lakeyboy 09:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I've gone through and removed all route numbers not shown in the current edition of Melway (Ed34/2007). Until an official/published source of some kind is found for each, I would ask that people refrain from adding them. -- Evan C ( Talk) 11:26, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
UPDATE I have now got confirmation that EastLink will indeed be signed M3. If anyone wants proof, go to the city bound onramp entry at Boronia Road and look under the material covering the sign. It says < M3 Ringwood | . Will make changes to the article now. -- Lakeyboy 08:08, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
I've also just realised that this route numbering decision must have been part of a larger plan. As I said above, before the Eastern Freeway extension opened in late 1997, and I rode down the freeway on my bike to have a look and all the signs had M3 on them but got covered with 83 when the freeway opened (which you can tell by looking at any Eastern Freeway 83 sign with the 83 part stuck over the top of the M3 part). Now the plan has come full circle. Now the question is what will happen to the rest of route 83 east of Hoddle Street and if it will stay as is or will get a different route number. I personally doubt it. -- Lakeyboy 06:08, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
It might not be long until a metro MABC conversion is upon us. Found this picture of a Canterbury kilometre distance sign near EastLink stating B34! Why it says B34 instead of B32 is beyond me. Must be a complete overhawl of the route numbering system. Pic here: http://members.optusnet.com.au/mainroadsvic/D/RD1%202008.jpg -- Lakeyboy ( talk) 11:05, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
I did see the sign for real but it had 32 on it when I saw it. I just assumed they coverplated it. If it is photoshopped, they did a good job of it, but I knew something was fishy about it. -- Lakeyboy ( talk) 10:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
If suburban Melbourne converts to the alpha-numeric signs, I don't think the Eastern Hwy can become the A3, that would be for the Nepean Hwy, which is currently metro-3, Nepean Hwy would have to become the A3, just like the Princes Hwy (Dandenong Rd) would become the A1? How did Eastlink/Eastern fwy get M3, the original sign for eastern Fwy was F19 and Eastlink was F35. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispain ( talk • contribs) 03:29, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
A friend of mine is a councillor for a council along the Eastlink route. He says Eastlink are telling them it'll be done in March 2008. And no, I can't provide references! -- Commking 11:36, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
It says in the article that the media coined "mitcham to frankston freeway". I remember going to the official website for the freeway (before it was called Eastlink) and the website's URL was "www.mitchamfranksstonproject.com.au"... So yeah it makes no sense really. Jamesbehave 17:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I have added "limited access" to the Monash Freeway interchange because there is no access to the M1 eastbound (towards Dandenong) from the northbound carriageway of Eastlink. Mal1988 ( talk) 09:57, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
If you have a look at the Melway, it actually states that between Patterson Lakes/Mornington Peninsula Fwy and Frankston-Dandenong Road, that it is Thompson Rd, without the "s". This is also where Eastlink's junction is between. The section after Dandenong-Frankston Rd is then named Thompsons Rd with the "s". Do not revert. Mal1988 ( talk) 03:48, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Luke, can we have a map made of the route, showing its placement around greater Melbourne?
Thanks,
WikiDon ( talk) 23:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
What is the source for the 'Eastern Ring Road" name. I'm unconvinced this was the 'original' name for the project. 203.202.145.170 ( talk) 04:00, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Now that EastLink is open for business, I think that it is the perfect time to organise the article and determine what needs to be included in the article and what gets left out. My inspiration for this is the only Featured Articles on roads on Wikipedia ( Interstate 15 in Arizona, Interstate 355, Interstate 70 in Utah, New York State Route 28, New York State Route 32 and New York State Route 174).
This is my first draft of what I think the Table of Contents should look like. This is all coming off the top of my head so don't treat this as the final solution.
INTRODUCTION
What do you all think? What would add/remove/change. I wish to bring this article up to GA and set this article as the standard for Australian road articles on Wikipedia. -- Lakeyboy ( talk) 09:15, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
I went out today to take some pics of EastLink and the EastLink Trail between Koomba Park and Springvale Road today. Pictures which I deem worthy of adding to the article will be placed here in a gallery. I have also added lat-long coordinates to the images shown below. -- Lakeyboy ( talk) 09:17, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
There is an item under controversies that states that the State Government will be entitled to revenue from additional traffic onto Eastlink if public roads are restricted. This needs a reference to verify its validity or needs to be removed. I have not been able to verify this and suspect that it is an old rumour. GrahamP ( talk) 22:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
There is a Herald Sun article today detailing increased traffic congestion on the Frankston Freeway due to Eastlink. [6] Might be able to use it as a reference. -- ozzmosis ( talk) 10:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
I've just looked at this article for the very first time. The first paragraph reads like a Liberal Party press release form 2004. I acknowledge the issue of tolling WAS a big political one during construction, but it has faded away these days. It certainly deserves a mention in the history and/or controversies sections, but it should not three quarters of the first paragraph. And while noting the extensive discussion above, I live in the eastern suburbs and use Eastlink several times a month and have heard heard or seen the term tolled freeway apart from in this article. It reads like one of those terms designed by committee. HiLo48 ( talk) 08:35, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
EastLink has now been open for 4 years. The ownership structure has changed (ConnectEast is now a private company, not listed on the ASX), traffic has increased to 200,000 trips a day, more than 500,000 Breeze tags have been issued to customers, the first of two BP service stations has opened on EastLink operated by Melbourne company AA Holdings, the new un-tolled Peninsula Link freeway is due to open by early 2013, two new interchanges will open soon (Peninsula Link and Caribbean Gardens), EastLink is one of Victoria's safest freeways in terms of casual accident rates per 100Mkm, two major cycle events are held annually on EastLink (Hanover ConnectEast Ride for Home - the second biggest cycle event in Victoria; and the bike leg of Ironman Melbourne one of the most important Ironman events globally), EastLink sponsors a road safety program with Eastern Football League, Mornington Peninsula Football League and Dandenong Basketball, EastLink also sponsors Frankston Arts Centre and Football Fives at Knox Regional Sports Park.
Please contact Doug Spencer-Roy dsroy@connecteast.com.au for up to date information and photography to assist with updating this wiki entry (including photography of the cycle events), we are very happy to help. Dspencerroy ( talk) 12:07, 27 June 2012 (UTC)