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I missed the discussion, I suppose, but I don't see that this is in any way the common name. I know no one who uses this name - people and media call it the East Link still...
SeoR (
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19:30, 25 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Agreed
SeoR. I came here to open the same thread. I also don't agree that "Tom Clarke Bridge" is (yet) the common name. National news articles, mentioning the subject, were using the term "East Link bridge" as recently as
thismonth. Local and national news outlets, about the subject, were using the term "East Link"
mid- andlatelast year. "Tom Clarke Bridge" is perhaps becoming more common. But not to the extent that it is yet the most common term. Happy to have the discussion. But, IMO, the move was perhaps premature...
Guliolopez (
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20:35, 25 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Exactly. Likewise, Transport Infrastructure Ireland currently uses East-Link (
[1]), as does paper-of-record the Irish Times even beyond the examples above (
[2]), and the City Council to which it belongs (
[3]), though I am sure the Council also uses the new name. At least there should be a discussion, and we should stick to WP:COMMONNAME.
SeoR (
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22:01, 25 September 2020 (UTC)reply
SeoR. It's been over a month. I haven't noted any other thoughts in the interim. Unless there are other inputs, I'm inclined to move the page "back" (essentially to undo the unilateral and unheralded move). If there is a subsequent move proposal, then the contributor proposing the move can trigger the move request/discussion process themselves.
Guliolopez (
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14:50, 5 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Guliolopez, I fully agree. I have been watching, and have seen no use of this term, where I hear and see the old name several times a week. It's almost a pity, as the bridge personal names are more human, and East Link is functional, but it is the factual main name for now, and the encyclopedia records, not defines. And process wise, this was mishandled, so I'd fully support reversion for the time being.
SeoR (
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09:32, 6 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Resolved. OK. I've moved it "back". If anyone feels strongly enough (that the new/official name has replaced the old/official name to the extent that it is now the common name), then they can open an RM. Or just another discussion thread here. (Otherwise, from what I can see,
reliable sources (as recently as today/yesterday) continue to use "East-Link" as the common name. And/or to assume that that is what their readers call the subject themselves).
Guliolopez (
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10:31, 6 November 2020 (UTC)reply
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I missed the discussion, I suppose, but I don't see that this is in any way the common name. I know no one who uses this name - people and media call it the East Link still...
SeoR (
talk)
19:30, 25 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Agreed
SeoR. I came here to open the same thread. I also don't agree that "Tom Clarke Bridge" is (yet) the common name. National news articles, mentioning the subject, were using the term "East Link bridge" as recently as
thismonth. Local and national news outlets, about the subject, were using the term "East Link"
mid- andlatelast year. "Tom Clarke Bridge" is perhaps becoming more common. But not to the extent that it is yet the most common term. Happy to have the discussion. But, IMO, the move was perhaps premature...
Guliolopez (
talk)
20:35, 25 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Exactly. Likewise, Transport Infrastructure Ireland currently uses East-Link (
[1]), as does paper-of-record the Irish Times even beyond the examples above (
[2]), and the City Council to which it belongs (
[3]), though I am sure the Council also uses the new name. At least there should be a discussion, and we should stick to WP:COMMONNAME.
SeoR (
talk)
22:01, 25 September 2020 (UTC)reply
SeoR. It's been over a month. I haven't noted any other thoughts in the interim. Unless there are other inputs, I'm inclined to move the page "back" (essentially to undo the unilateral and unheralded move). If there is a subsequent move proposal, then the contributor proposing the move can trigger the move request/discussion process themselves.
Guliolopez (
talk)
14:50, 5 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Guliolopez, I fully agree. I have been watching, and have seen no use of this term, where I hear and see the old name several times a week. It's almost a pity, as the bridge personal names are more human, and East Link is functional, but it is the factual main name for now, and the encyclopedia records, not defines. And process wise, this was mishandled, so I'd fully support reversion for the time being.
SeoR (
talk)
09:32, 6 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Resolved. OK. I've moved it "back". If anyone feels strongly enough (that the new/official name has replaced the old/official name to the extent that it is now the common name), then they can open an RM. Or just another discussion thread here. (Otherwise, from what I can see,
reliable sources (as recently as today/yesterday) continue to use "East-Link" as the common name. And/or to assume that that is what their readers call the subject themselves).
Guliolopez (
talk)
10:31, 6 November 2020 (UTC)reply