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Gene Roddenberry died 6 years before the pilot was screened. I wonder to what extent this was 'created' by him. Morwen 20:21, Dec 24, 2003 (UTC)
nb, newly created article Taelons is on VfD. Could someone who's actually watched enough of this stuff for it to make sense pop by that article and improve it a bit. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 11:56, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be a good idea to move the list of episodes here? Or is this uncommon in the english wikipedia? -- 80.238.207.152 08:48, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
In the Season 5 section it is spelled both ways numerous times, such as from this excerpt:
...Atavus chambers, fighting off the Avatus...
Which one is it? Someone please correct and provide a source.
-- Ihmhi 05:10, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
There were two "atavus" on E:FC. As I recall Da'an turns into one for a time in one episode. Then when they just turned around the whole story, the Taelons dissapear and the "atavus" race appears, which seems totally different from the previous "atavus", which only adds to the confusion. Tuxley 08:47, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
As requested by FrankWilliams in the page history, I'm putting this comment here to explain my removal of the quote box containing the season 1 introduction to the show from the top of the page (this time - the previous times it was removed by Otto4711). There are three reasons for this.
Mike Peel 07:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
The statement: The distributer of these DVDs, ADV Films, currently only has the DVD rights for these seasons; they have made the statement that "negotiations are underway for the remaining seasons". was made by me FrankWilliams from a phone conversation with ADV Films. FrankWilliams 19:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Did the series ever establish when it was set apart from "in the 21st century" or "in the new millenium"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 218.214.143.84 ( talk • contribs) 6:45, 14 July, 2006 (UTC).
How long are the episodes? I assume that there are ads and episodes aren't really an hour long like the infobox says. -- Arctic Gnome 21:25, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't think Ra'jel needs to be added to the main page. Logic is that other characters have their own articles such as: Da'an, Zo'or, and Juda. If no one objects after a reasonable amount of time I propose the merge statement in the main article be removed. FrankWilliams 14:39, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
We're having a discussion over at the Andromeda (TV series) talk page about how that series was supposedly planned to be set in the Star Trek universe by Roddenberry, but was altered to be non-Trek by the producers after his death. I say "apparently" because neither of us has a source handy for this assertion; just our memories (which I must say are VERY vivid, because I remember thinking "Wow, that would've been awesome! The last ship in Starfleet running around, trying to save the tattered remains of the Federation... Why the hell did they change it?!"
Anyway, this other guy also claims reading the same thing about Earth: Final Conflict. While I don't see how this would have worked (how could the Taelons--or their Star Trek-universe equivalents--POSSIBLY be retconned into the Star Trek universe? Would they bring in a new race or use an existing race, e.g. the Vulcans? Either way, they would've had to completely reboot the entire franchise.), it's still interesting and worthy of mention, in my opinion. At the very least, it merits a few lines in the "trivia" section. I'm especially curious as to why both series were altered to be non-Trek, apparently against Roddenberry's original intentions, and then were plastered with Roddenberry's name in an attempt to retain the Trek connection.
So... does anyone have any sources for this? Is it actually true? Are we delusional? Is it an urban legend?
Google is being shockingly unhelpful today. -- Lode Runner
It's been a long time, but my to respond has sorta come around here. I think it worthwhile to note that the series 'Enterprise' did a bit of Trek universe EFC stuff with the Vulcans, a more disimilar but striking example being the introduction to the ~3rd last episode in a Mirror darkly pt1 where the suspicious and violent Humans board their ship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.117.67.30 ( talk) 03:59, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to see quote boxes around the opening narration intro just prior to the each of the season intros. It has been proposed that this leaves too much white space but having viewed the page in both Internet Explorer and the Firefox browser I don't see excessive white space. Furthermore I think the boxes make the intro's stand out and it helps separate each of the season summaries. FrankWilliams 17:01, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I am going to remove the link on the article page to the official website since it has been down since early march and as such is leading to a blank page, if the page returns feel free to put it back on but for now I don't see any reason for it to be there. Doctoroxenbriery ( talk) 02:17, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Why are there checks and xs that are cycling back and forth in the table? ~ Auzemandius { talk/ contrib} 14:47, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Recurring characters instead of main as they were.
Looking at this article, I would like to make some improvements. WP:NOT suggests that a short, concise plot summary is beneficial to the article. All of the plot summary sections, especially that of the first season, are overly long. Some people have interpreted WP:NOT to mean that its alright to just shorten or remove long summary sections without discussion, this has been controversial and even resulted in a discussion at WP:AN/I, so I figured i'd bring it up here first and see if anyone objects. Is it alright if I condense the plot summaries somewhat so that they don't overwhelm the article? Firestorm ( talk) 01:13, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
I found the plot summary to be exactly what I was looking for (I wanted to know what happens without watching the series). I don't see any practical reason for shortening it, other than to follow rules? If it must be shortened, this detailed version should be preserved, and linked to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.0.33.181 ( talk) 07:21, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
I remember watching the entire first season of this series when it initially came out. At the time, I stumbled on its Web site. The Web site was set up as a tie-in to the series, where fans could sign up as part of the "Resistance." It was quite extensive.
Question: Is this the first show to use the Web in the way that it did, as an extension to the show itself?
mariox19 ( talk) 19:50, 8 November 2010 (UTC)mariox19
Boone's wife is killed in episode one. In episode 2, Sandoval reveals that he killed her so Boone would not have to go through what he went through, where the process that enhanced him made him see her as far less than him, so he lost interest in her.
However Boone said he did not want to join the companions. It was the death of his wife that changed his mind. ( Cyberia3 ( talk) 13:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC))
The following bullet point under the Alien Species section strikes me as particularly bad:
The character Liam is from the Wooden-top school of acting and directing and the series, whilst progressing well as a combination of good action and relational story in series 1, dives into the vaults of adolescent nonsense isolating a wider audience. Its ratings slumped heavily in series 2 and was only sustained to a full five series as the producers found a network with much lower requisites for both ratings and overall quality of character, direction, plot and script.
Firstly, this has nothing to do with the alien species in the series. Secondly, this does not seem to have a neutral point-of-view style to me, it's more like something from a bad review. Thirdly, none of it is even sourced. I suggest we remove this point entirely. ChibiKareshi ( talk) 06:47, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
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Gene Roddenberry died 6 years before the pilot was screened. I wonder to what extent this was 'created' by him. Morwen 20:21, Dec 24, 2003 (UTC)
nb, newly created article Taelons is on VfD. Could someone who's actually watched enough of this stuff for it to make sense pop by that article and improve it a bit. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 11:56, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be a good idea to move the list of episodes here? Or is this uncommon in the english wikipedia? -- 80.238.207.152 08:48, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
In the Season 5 section it is spelled both ways numerous times, such as from this excerpt:
...Atavus chambers, fighting off the Avatus...
Which one is it? Someone please correct and provide a source.
-- Ihmhi 05:10, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
There were two "atavus" on E:FC. As I recall Da'an turns into one for a time in one episode. Then when they just turned around the whole story, the Taelons dissapear and the "atavus" race appears, which seems totally different from the previous "atavus", which only adds to the confusion. Tuxley 08:47, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
As requested by FrankWilliams in the page history, I'm putting this comment here to explain my removal of the quote box containing the season 1 introduction to the show from the top of the page (this time - the previous times it was removed by Otto4711). There are three reasons for this.
Mike Peel 07:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
The statement: The distributer of these DVDs, ADV Films, currently only has the DVD rights for these seasons; they have made the statement that "negotiations are underway for the remaining seasons". was made by me FrankWilliams from a phone conversation with ADV Films. FrankWilliams 19:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Did the series ever establish when it was set apart from "in the 21st century" or "in the new millenium"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 218.214.143.84 ( talk • contribs) 6:45, 14 July, 2006 (UTC).
How long are the episodes? I assume that there are ads and episodes aren't really an hour long like the infobox says. -- Arctic Gnome 21:25, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't think Ra'jel needs to be added to the main page. Logic is that other characters have their own articles such as: Da'an, Zo'or, and Juda. If no one objects after a reasonable amount of time I propose the merge statement in the main article be removed. FrankWilliams 14:39, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
We're having a discussion over at the Andromeda (TV series) talk page about how that series was supposedly planned to be set in the Star Trek universe by Roddenberry, but was altered to be non-Trek by the producers after his death. I say "apparently" because neither of us has a source handy for this assertion; just our memories (which I must say are VERY vivid, because I remember thinking "Wow, that would've been awesome! The last ship in Starfleet running around, trying to save the tattered remains of the Federation... Why the hell did they change it?!"
Anyway, this other guy also claims reading the same thing about Earth: Final Conflict. While I don't see how this would have worked (how could the Taelons--or their Star Trek-universe equivalents--POSSIBLY be retconned into the Star Trek universe? Would they bring in a new race or use an existing race, e.g. the Vulcans? Either way, they would've had to completely reboot the entire franchise.), it's still interesting and worthy of mention, in my opinion. At the very least, it merits a few lines in the "trivia" section. I'm especially curious as to why both series were altered to be non-Trek, apparently against Roddenberry's original intentions, and then were plastered with Roddenberry's name in an attempt to retain the Trek connection.
So... does anyone have any sources for this? Is it actually true? Are we delusional? Is it an urban legend?
Google is being shockingly unhelpful today. -- Lode Runner
It's been a long time, but my to respond has sorta come around here. I think it worthwhile to note that the series 'Enterprise' did a bit of Trek universe EFC stuff with the Vulcans, a more disimilar but striking example being the introduction to the ~3rd last episode in a Mirror darkly pt1 where the suspicious and violent Humans board their ship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.117.67.30 ( talk) 03:59, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to see quote boxes around the opening narration intro just prior to the each of the season intros. It has been proposed that this leaves too much white space but having viewed the page in both Internet Explorer and the Firefox browser I don't see excessive white space. Furthermore I think the boxes make the intro's stand out and it helps separate each of the season summaries. FrankWilliams 17:01, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I am going to remove the link on the article page to the official website since it has been down since early march and as such is leading to a blank page, if the page returns feel free to put it back on but for now I don't see any reason for it to be there. Doctoroxenbriery ( talk) 02:17, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Why are there checks and xs that are cycling back and forth in the table? ~ Auzemandius { talk/ contrib} 14:47, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Recurring characters instead of main as they were.
Looking at this article, I would like to make some improvements. WP:NOT suggests that a short, concise plot summary is beneficial to the article. All of the plot summary sections, especially that of the first season, are overly long. Some people have interpreted WP:NOT to mean that its alright to just shorten or remove long summary sections without discussion, this has been controversial and even resulted in a discussion at WP:AN/I, so I figured i'd bring it up here first and see if anyone objects. Is it alright if I condense the plot summaries somewhat so that they don't overwhelm the article? Firestorm ( talk) 01:13, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
I found the plot summary to be exactly what I was looking for (I wanted to know what happens without watching the series). I don't see any practical reason for shortening it, other than to follow rules? If it must be shortened, this detailed version should be preserved, and linked to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.0.33.181 ( talk) 07:21, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
I remember watching the entire first season of this series when it initially came out. At the time, I stumbled on its Web site. The Web site was set up as a tie-in to the series, where fans could sign up as part of the "Resistance." It was quite extensive.
Question: Is this the first show to use the Web in the way that it did, as an extension to the show itself?
mariox19 ( talk) 19:50, 8 November 2010 (UTC)mariox19
Boone's wife is killed in episode one. In episode 2, Sandoval reveals that he killed her so Boone would not have to go through what he went through, where the process that enhanced him made him see her as far less than him, so he lost interest in her.
However Boone said he did not want to join the companions. It was the death of his wife that changed his mind. ( Cyberia3 ( talk) 13:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC))
The following bullet point under the Alien Species section strikes me as particularly bad:
The character Liam is from the Wooden-top school of acting and directing and the series, whilst progressing well as a combination of good action and relational story in series 1, dives into the vaults of adolescent nonsense isolating a wider audience. Its ratings slumped heavily in series 2 and was only sustained to a full five series as the producers found a network with much lower requisites for both ratings and overall quality of character, direction, plot and script.
Firstly, this has nothing to do with the alien species in the series. Secondly, this does not seem to have a neutral point-of-view style to me, it's more like something from a bad review. Thirdly, none of it is even sourced. I suggest we remove this point entirely. ChibiKareshi ( talk) 06:47, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
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