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One nitpick about the article is that the IW/SA80 family has nothing in common with the EM2 other than being a gas-operated bullpup design. The IW/SA80 is essentially a modified AR18 (which caused some understandable irritation with the Sterling company who actually had a licence to manufacture a version of the latter) which is a design using Stoner's rotating multi-lugged bolt with a hammer-actuated firing system in a pressed-metal body (as a cheaper alternative to the AR15's cast body) whereas the EM2 used a flap-locking mechanism and a directly sprung firing-pin and overall required a considerable amount of traditional machining to produce. There's a common misconception that the EM2 and the IW/SA80 shared essentially the same design but that is sadly not the case: it is my POV (and hence not suitable for entry in the main article!) that if there were a commonality of design, the IW/SA80 would've had a much happier history.
Anyway, the point is that the article should clarify that the IW/SA80 family is categorically not a development of the EM2.
Either this article has been copied to another site or vice-versa. Perhaps some evidence as to where this information came from would be helpful.
Here is the site where the exact same text appears as is in the article. Copied From?
For those interested in this subject, I am beginning a new article at User:Harlsbottom/EM2. Thus far an introduction and updated box have been completed. This is going to be a lengthy article going the whole hog, and to prevent any mistakes everyone is welcome to comment, though not edit. Please comment in my User_talk:Harlsbottom. - Harlsbottom 18:18, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Someone has been changing words and adding incorrect info. I corrected all that I could see.
eg
Where it said 'In time, the British position on intermediate cartridges was vindicated', someone had added
'In time, the British position on intermediate cartridges was NOT vindicated'
Also other misleading sentences were added which I removed. I hope this was OK
80.229.17.248 ( talk) 18:58, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't know why the implication was made that the use of stripper clips is inconsistent with removable box magazines. The SMLE and M-14 both had stripper clip guides in the receiver bridge for topping off their removable box magazines. Box magazine conversions on SKS rifles, which also have a clip guide, are very popular as well.-- 68.12.57.69 ( talk) 14:21, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
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I saw Ian's video on forgotten weapons and he fired the EM-2 and it jammed more than it successfully fired. That is dramatically worse than the performance of the M1918 Chauchat which he was able to fire hundreds of times without failure. Talking about how there was a conspiracy to divest the EM-2 seems like an actual conspiracy to try and martyr a terrible weapon.
Military Galaxy Brain ( talk) 13:59, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
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One nitpick about the article is that the IW/SA80 family has nothing in common with the EM2 other than being a gas-operated bullpup design. The IW/SA80 is essentially a modified AR18 (which caused some understandable irritation with the Sterling company who actually had a licence to manufacture a version of the latter) which is a design using Stoner's rotating multi-lugged bolt with a hammer-actuated firing system in a pressed-metal body (as a cheaper alternative to the AR15's cast body) whereas the EM2 used a flap-locking mechanism and a directly sprung firing-pin and overall required a considerable amount of traditional machining to produce. There's a common misconception that the EM2 and the IW/SA80 shared essentially the same design but that is sadly not the case: it is my POV (and hence not suitable for entry in the main article!) that if there were a commonality of design, the IW/SA80 would've had a much happier history.
Anyway, the point is that the article should clarify that the IW/SA80 family is categorically not a development of the EM2.
Either this article has been copied to another site or vice-versa. Perhaps some evidence as to where this information came from would be helpful.
Here is the site where the exact same text appears as is in the article. Copied From?
For those interested in this subject, I am beginning a new article at User:Harlsbottom/EM2. Thus far an introduction and updated box have been completed. This is going to be a lengthy article going the whole hog, and to prevent any mistakes everyone is welcome to comment, though not edit. Please comment in my User_talk:Harlsbottom. - Harlsbottom 18:18, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Someone has been changing words and adding incorrect info. I corrected all that I could see.
eg
Where it said 'In time, the British position on intermediate cartridges was vindicated', someone had added
'In time, the British position on intermediate cartridges was NOT vindicated'
Also other misleading sentences were added which I removed. I hope this was OK
80.229.17.248 ( talk) 18:58, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't know why the implication was made that the use of stripper clips is inconsistent with removable box magazines. The SMLE and M-14 both had stripper clip guides in the receiver bridge for topping off their removable box magazines. Box magazine conversions on SKS rifles, which also have a clip guide, are very popular as well.-- 68.12.57.69 ( talk) 14:21, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
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I saw Ian's video on forgotten weapons and he fired the EM-2 and it jammed more than it successfully fired. That is dramatically worse than the performance of the M1918 Chauchat which he was able to fire hundreds of times without failure. Talking about how there was a conspiracy to divest the EM-2 seems like an actual conspiracy to try and martyr a terrible weapon.
Military Galaxy Brain ( talk) 13:59, 3 November 2021 (UTC)