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E E Smith's death is listed here as August 31, but we have it given over at October 1 - I don't know anything about him, can somebody who does delete the October 1 entry if it is incorrect. -- Camembert
Wow! Doc Smith's life is actually quite a story. This article doesn't tell the half of it! The trouble is that the good parts aren't really relevant to his writing career. -- Derek Ross
Back in 1984, I spoke to Smith's younger daughter at LACon II and she told me that he helped create the first powdered mix for making doughnuts but didn't mention anything about making powdered sugar stick to them. As a former baker, I've made lots of doughnuts, including powdered ones. All you have to do to make it stick is to roll them in the sugar before they have time to cool off and the combination of the heat and the little bit of fryer grease is all that's needed, just as it is for salting french fries. She also told me that he had a great recipe for pancakes. It started out with what type of wheat to use for the flour, when to plant it and when it should be harvested. Impossible for the average amateur, of course, but it did make great pancakes. Alas, I have nothing but my memory to go on, but I'm putting it here because somebody else might be able to make use of it. JDZeff ( talk) 07:47, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Some of the "literary flaws" mentioned were, in earlier decades, literary conventions. Smith must have been a voluminous reader as a youth. I see a strong trace of H. Rider Haggard in the first Skylark book, and maybe some Jules Verne. :-)
Stickmaker (stickmaker@usa.net)
Sounds fascinating. Care to elaborate ? Derek Ross | Talk 02:42, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Possibly amusing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Achilles_Ballinger Richard A. Ballinger was the Mayor of Seattle before 1910 and Secretary of the Interior under Taft in 1911, resigning in apparent disgrace for not being an adequate conservationist. According to http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=10757 his father was also named Richard (H.) Ballinger and was an explorer and Army officer. I wonder if this person influenced certain character naming...we know that Richard Ballinger Seaton was apparently named for the Seaton Place Apartments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doc W ( talk • contribs) 03:08, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
An entry regarding the Lord Tedric novel on the main page, also discussing Gordon Ecklund's subsequent novels about Lord Tedric, makes a disparaging comment about Doc Smith's undisputed inspirational role in Star Wars. My first inclination was to simply delete the comment, but that leaves the entry unbalanced and I'm unsure about deleting the Lord Tedric reference completely. I suspect that any response will require a complete rewrite of the paragraph to complete a new context which acknowledges that this is not an example of Doc's influence on Star Wars, but does not attempt to claim that Doc has no influence on Lucas. (To the author of that comment: I have never heard Doc's influence on Star Wars as being specifically related to Lord Tedric, or to any particular story, but to his general role as an inspiration to George Lucas, which is confirmed in Mr. Lucas's birogrpahy.) I would apprecaite a discussion of the best approach to resolving this issue, though if someone has a strong opinion about editing deleting the passage, please feel free. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doc W ( talk • contribs) 02:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Original letter in Trestrail's estate, original typewritten speech notes in the Epopt's collection of Lensman source material.
The User: thing should not be in the artile. Can Epopt give their real name?
Fplay 06:04, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
FlashSheridan 04:55, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
(Later: I'm now following Sanders on both, though I suspect Trestrail may be right in the latter.)
FlashSheridan 17:43, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
31.185.130.186 ( talk) 16:00, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Submitted for consideration: I found the reference just added for Jeanne's mother's remarriage by going to Google Books and searching on "E. E. Smith" Idaho. (Similar searches on "Explosives" and "Chemicals" turned up numerous other E. E. Smiths but no citation that I could say unambigiously was to Doc.) However, I've also found a citation in a book of legal records of a 1913 appeal of a lawsuit by W. E. Smith, E. E. Smith, and Carl Smith dba Smith Brothers vs. Inter-Mountain Auto Company, LTD. http://books.google.com/books?id=l9ILAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA212&dq=%22E.+E.+Smith%22+Idaho&lr=&as_brr=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html. The citation of W. E. makes it highly probably this is Doc, and "Carl" might be a nickname of Chester Fowler Smith (or a confusion with Carl Garby). I'm not sure that this is sufficiently well defined to promote it to the main page, but though people should be aware of both the reference and the source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doc W ( talk • contribs) 15:19, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
I was a 13 year old reader of the Lensman books but my Physics teacher brought to class a mention of his introducing inertial dampening drives - a concept which impressed me the most of all his work.
Was it true that EE Doc Smith "invented" the concept?
One l or two ? -- Beardo 05:25, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
A series of commentless edits around 23:08, 25 August 2006 changed " Trweel" (Smith's incorrect [but common] spelling, "Epic of Space" p. 80) to "Tweel" (Weinbaum's spelling, Best of Stanley G. Wienbaum p. 5), and delinked a number of terms, including the first body link to T. O'Conor Sloane, and some hopeful links, e.g., to Verna Smith Trestrail.
— FlashSheridan 18:35, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Quite a find by Pariah Press; the article isn't mentioned in Lucchetti's bibliography, nor yours, nor Sanders', and a Google search turned up completely blank. Chester Fowler Smith has only one Google hit, a sad one, in the Latah County, Idaho Star-Mirror: [3]; he seems to have died in California of tuberculosis the following year, after taking a teaching fellowship at Berkeley. Does anyone know anything about more him? The last name suggests a relationship, though my notes don't have any reference to him.
The URL you give seems not to work for me (a frequent problem for library catalogs). The University of Idaho Libraries search page is presumably more permanent; searching for ""Some clays of Idaho"" leads to [4]; I don't know how long that link will be valid.
The date of his birth was pretty straight forward. Is there a reason why the date of his death is buried in a story?
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I've done a little more playing with the census and with rootsweb.com and have added quite a bit of detail on Dr. Carl Garby and somewhat less on Mrs. Garby. The biographical note that accompanies the Rootsweb citation suggests that they might be in Michigan in 1949, which raises speculation that the Garby's followed the Smiths to Michigan, but it is indicated as unproven information and I'm not sure if I propose following the Garby's to that extent. Since I've not been able to find Doc in the 1910 (in particular, in this context) or 1920 census, any comments about a relationship with the Garby's prior to their arrival in DC is shear speculation, but the rootsweb post provides a definite history for Garby in Idaho, and it seems plausible that Garby was a fellow student at UI who also moved to DC with Doc.-- Doc W 01:31, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
I have e-mails confirming my assessment of the ancestory and family history of Dr. and Mrs. Garby (as posted so far), and have learned that their daughter is still alive in an assisted living facility. I am contemplating whether I want to ask the family for permission to interview her for this and perhaps for publication, and I have a friend who is working on an advanced degree in SF as literature who might be interested and following up on Mrs. Garby as a thesis topic.-- Doc W 02:48, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
I've build a stub for Mrs. Garby as/if I am able to add to it. -- Doc W 03:04, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
I've found a Lee Hawkins daughter of Jameson and Julia Hawkins born Missouri, Age 20 in the 1910 Census, in Bonner County Idaho. Rootsweb has a Hawkins family with a series of Jamesons beginning 1765 and einding about this Jameson's father's generation (he was 60 in 1910). There is probably a connection here, but I would need to search further to confirm that there are no other plausible Lee Hawkins. Note that the Western States marriage data base does not list a marriage for Carl Garby and Lee Hawkins, so I can't verify if they married in Idaho before moving to DC (as Doc and Jeannie did) or if they married in DC after the move. -- Doc W 03:04, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I've added to Mrs. Garby's page today. Please review and comment.-- Doc W ( talk) 06:33, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
-Why was he called "Doc" and what are details of Phd. Lycurgus 11:29, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
The last two paragraphs in the "Lensman" section of this article don't fit into that category. Does anyone know what we could do with them? Perhaps a "science fiction fandom" section or something? -- Pariah Press 05:03, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I managed to squeeze some specific recommendations from the fellow who rated this article:
"Hi there, I rated the article as part of an assessment drive to reduce the number of unrated biographies on Wikipedia (currently about 150,000). You should know that an assessment grade is neither a positive nor negative grade, and refers mostly to the amount of content and layout of the article. A "B" grade is actually quite good, and is the "highest" grade possible without a formal review such as within a Good Article nomination or Featured article nomination. That said, I do have a few suggestions:
-- Pariah Press 03:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Flash, I do understand your point / concern, and part of why I went with the chemical career separate was that a lot of his professional history was not really well-structured chronologically through the article as we've added to it (a lot of which may be my fault). After thinking about your comment, let's consider the current organization vs. the following conceptual organization (headings could be revised, of course):
With events interposed based on what we know to the extent possible, and perhaps a little themic material (e.g. the section about plotting a "space police novel" in the late 1920's) shifted between chronological sections for themic continuity. Certainly I'll note that this type of organization would probably fit better with most encyclopedia biographys I've read. (Well, Admiral Lord Nelson, and mostly looking for parallels to Honor Harrington)
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Hi All! I'm not at all sure if this is the right place for this but here goes...
I'm new to this site & stumbled on it purely by accident while searching google for a complete set of the classic lensman series. I was given the 3rd book in the series by an uncle & a couple of years later my mother found second stage lensman. I know I must be able to get this set from somewhere as I finally managed to get the foundation trilogy & the 2 books that followed them...
So if anyone out there could help me to find or point me in the right direction this would end an agony of years searching ....
Thank you ...Del...
The Gutenberg Project page linked at the bottom has a book or story called Subspace Survivors, but that title isn't mentioned on the page here at all. The PG page says it came from the July 1960 Astounding Science Fact and Fiction, so it seems likely that it's the first 30 pages of Subspace Explorers mentioned in the article, but can this be verified? -- 68.44.13.236 02:09, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Ron Howard's Imagine Entertainment and Universal Studios are in negotiation with the Smith estate for an 18-month film rights option on the series. [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doc W ( talk • contribs) 04:47, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
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I just finished the tedious task of cleaning up a bunch of duplicate footnotes. I know it's a bit of trouble, but please try to keep the footnotes tidy, as there are a lot of them. -- Pariah Press ( talk) 03:47, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, are we? -- Pariah Press ( talk) 03:47, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
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I know that this is an matter of taste, but this article strikes me as excessively detailed.
Such items as the names of all of Smith's (non-notable) siblings, the professions of Smith's wife's parents, the details of the death of his classmate, are, if not fancruft, then biography
cruft: "content of importance (I would have said "of interest") only to a small population of enthusiastic fans of the subject in question."
Facts are good things, very good indeed, but as RAH says, "Would you bolt a bathtub onto whatever project you're building, just because you have one available?"
Let's exercise a little editorial discretion here and trim some of this.
- Respectfully,
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I'm going to remove the note about Moskowitz being inaccurate; I've heard this too, but I don't think we can use Gharlane as a reliable source. (It's not a question of whether he's right; it's just not a published, peer-reviewed source, that's all.) In any case I think we need to either trust a source or not use it. The best thing would be to support whatever facts are quoted from other sources too.
I also would say that the comment about the editorship of Amazing being a basic error is perhaps unfair. Sloane was indeed under Gernsback at the time Skylark was sold, but Ashley's The Time Machines says that Sloane was doing the practical editorial work, including reading all the fiction. Gernsback had final say over what was printed. In these circumstances I think it's excusable to refer to Sloane as the editor. Mike Christie (talk) 00:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
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There is one apparently now unknown, and sort lived, book in the Lensman series which is missing from the book list for this series. Dr. Smith did publish a book titled "The Red Lensman" As a young teenager in 1967 I read this book, it was a numbered first addition signed copy with, as I recall book number #96. It sticks in my mind because this was first such book I had seen. The Red Lensman book was later incorporated into the Second Stage Lensman. When you read the Second Stage Lensman you can see the basic story. Lensman Kimball Kinnison sent Clarissa MacDougall to the Plant of the Amazons. Kinnison with Mentor of Arisia watching gave Clarissa the "treatment" and made her a lensman he did this so Clarissa could deal with the Amazons who had rather impressive mental powers, she called herself a "Red Lensman", "not a real lensman". The Red Lemsman was the story of her work with the Matriarchy of Layrane and the Amazon Kinnison called Helen of Troy. I wish I had this book now, a signed and numbered edition of the Red Lensman it would surely be worth it's weight in gold. Transmaster ( talk) 07:45, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
I think it looks a little clumsy the way it is now. The chemical and his writing career are tangled into each other. Why not dedicate one section to his life as a writer, and another to his work in the food industry and such? It has already been tried, but it was changed back the way it was. 84.210.35.162 ( talk) 00:09, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
I must say this is a beautiful article.
A couple of things that could be added, if they could be tracked down.
Anything on concepts Smith brought to SF? The credit, perhaps? Mzk1 ( talk) 22:37, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
"...Gray Lensman was first place in the Analytical Laboratory statistics "by a lightyear", with three runners-up in a distant tie for third place."
OK, what happened to second place? Dick Kimball ( talk) 14:39, 10 August 2012 (UTC) Dick Kimball ( talk) 14:42, 10 August 2012 (UTC) Dick Kimball ( talk) 14:44, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
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E E Smith's death is listed here as August 31, but we have it given over at October 1 - I don't know anything about him, can somebody who does delete the October 1 entry if it is incorrect. -- Camembert
Wow! Doc Smith's life is actually quite a story. This article doesn't tell the half of it! The trouble is that the good parts aren't really relevant to his writing career. -- Derek Ross
Back in 1984, I spoke to Smith's younger daughter at LACon II and she told me that he helped create the first powdered mix for making doughnuts but didn't mention anything about making powdered sugar stick to them. As a former baker, I've made lots of doughnuts, including powdered ones. All you have to do to make it stick is to roll them in the sugar before they have time to cool off and the combination of the heat and the little bit of fryer grease is all that's needed, just as it is for salting french fries. She also told me that he had a great recipe for pancakes. It started out with what type of wheat to use for the flour, when to plant it and when it should be harvested. Impossible for the average amateur, of course, but it did make great pancakes. Alas, I have nothing but my memory to go on, but I'm putting it here because somebody else might be able to make use of it. JDZeff ( talk) 07:47, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Some of the "literary flaws" mentioned were, in earlier decades, literary conventions. Smith must have been a voluminous reader as a youth. I see a strong trace of H. Rider Haggard in the first Skylark book, and maybe some Jules Verne. :-)
Stickmaker (stickmaker@usa.net)
Sounds fascinating. Care to elaborate ? Derek Ross | Talk 02:42, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Possibly amusing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Achilles_Ballinger Richard A. Ballinger was the Mayor of Seattle before 1910 and Secretary of the Interior under Taft in 1911, resigning in apparent disgrace for not being an adequate conservationist. According to http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=10757 his father was also named Richard (H.) Ballinger and was an explorer and Army officer. I wonder if this person influenced certain character naming...we know that Richard Ballinger Seaton was apparently named for the Seaton Place Apartments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doc W ( talk • contribs) 03:08, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
An entry regarding the Lord Tedric novel on the main page, also discussing Gordon Ecklund's subsequent novels about Lord Tedric, makes a disparaging comment about Doc Smith's undisputed inspirational role in Star Wars. My first inclination was to simply delete the comment, but that leaves the entry unbalanced and I'm unsure about deleting the Lord Tedric reference completely. I suspect that any response will require a complete rewrite of the paragraph to complete a new context which acknowledges that this is not an example of Doc's influence on Star Wars, but does not attempt to claim that Doc has no influence on Lucas. (To the author of that comment: I have never heard Doc's influence on Star Wars as being specifically related to Lord Tedric, or to any particular story, but to his general role as an inspiration to George Lucas, which is confirmed in Mr. Lucas's birogrpahy.) I would apprecaite a discussion of the best approach to resolving this issue, though if someone has a strong opinion about editing deleting the passage, please feel free. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doc W ( talk • contribs) 02:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Original letter in Trestrail's estate, original typewritten speech notes in the Epopt's collection of Lensman source material.
The User: thing should not be in the artile. Can Epopt give their real name?
Fplay 06:04, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
FlashSheridan 04:55, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
(Later: I'm now following Sanders on both, though I suspect Trestrail may be right in the latter.)
FlashSheridan 17:43, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
31.185.130.186 ( talk) 16:00, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Submitted for consideration: I found the reference just added for Jeanne's mother's remarriage by going to Google Books and searching on "E. E. Smith" Idaho. (Similar searches on "Explosives" and "Chemicals" turned up numerous other E. E. Smiths but no citation that I could say unambigiously was to Doc.) However, I've also found a citation in a book of legal records of a 1913 appeal of a lawsuit by W. E. Smith, E. E. Smith, and Carl Smith dba Smith Brothers vs. Inter-Mountain Auto Company, LTD. http://books.google.com/books?id=l9ILAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA212&dq=%22E.+E.+Smith%22+Idaho&lr=&as_brr=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html. The citation of W. E. makes it highly probably this is Doc, and "Carl" might be a nickname of Chester Fowler Smith (or a confusion with Carl Garby). I'm not sure that this is sufficiently well defined to promote it to the main page, but though people should be aware of both the reference and the source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doc W ( talk • contribs) 15:19, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
I was a 13 year old reader of the Lensman books but my Physics teacher brought to class a mention of his introducing inertial dampening drives - a concept which impressed me the most of all his work.
Was it true that EE Doc Smith "invented" the concept?
One l or two ? -- Beardo 05:25, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
A series of commentless edits around 23:08, 25 August 2006 changed " Trweel" (Smith's incorrect [but common] spelling, "Epic of Space" p. 80) to "Tweel" (Weinbaum's spelling, Best of Stanley G. Wienbaum p. 5), and delinked a number of terms, including the first body link to T. O'Conor Sloane, and some hopeful links, e.g., to Verna Smith Trestrail.
— FlashSheridan 18:35, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Quite a find by Pariah Press; the article isn't mentioned in Lucchetti's bibliography, nor yours, nor Sanders', and a Google search turned up completely blank. Chester Fowler Smith has only one Google hit, a sad one, in the Latah County, Idaho Star-Mirror: [3]; he seems to have died in California of tuberculosis the following year, after taking a teaching fellowship at Berkeley. Does anyone know anything about more him? The last name suggests a relationship, though my notes don't have any reference to him.
The URL you give seems not to work for me (a frequent problem for library catalogs). The University of Idaho Libraries search page is presumably more permanent; searching for ""Some clays of Idaho"" leads to [4]; I don't know how long that link will be valid.
The date of his birth was pretty straight forward. Is there a reason why the date of his death is buried in a story?
[76.184.234.133 30 December 2006]
I've done a little more playing with the census and with rootsweb.com and have added quite a bit of detail on Dr. Carl Garby and somewhat less on Mrs. Garby. The biographical note that accompanies the Rootsweb citation suggests that they might be in Michigan in 1949, which raises speculation that the Garby's followed the Smiths to Michigan, but it is indicated as unproven information and I'm not sure if I propose following the Garby's to that extent. Since I've not been able to find Doc in the 1910 (in particular, in this context) or 1920 census, any comments about a relationship with the Garby's prior to their arrival in DC is shear speculation, but the rootsweb post provides a definite history for Garby in Idaho, and it seems plausible that Garby was a fellow student at UI who also moved to DC with Doc.-- Doc W 01:31, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
I have e-mails confirming my assessment of the ancestory and family history of Dr. and Mrs. Garby (as posted so far), and have learned that their daughter is still alive in an assisted living facility. I am contemplating whether I want to ask the family for permission to interview her for this and perhaps for publication, and I have a friend who is working on an advanced degree in SF as literature who might be interested and following up on Mrs. Garby as a thesis topic.-- Doc W 02:48, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
I've build a stub for Mrs. Garby as/if I am able to add to it. -- Doc W 03:04, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
I've found a Lee Hawkins daughter of Jameson and Julia Hawkins born Missouri, Age 20 in the 1910 Census, in Bonner County Idaho. Rootsweb has a Hawkins family with a series of Jamesons beginning 1765 and einding about this Jameson's father's generation (he was 60 in 1910). There is probably a connection here, but I would need to search further to confirm that there are no other plausible Lee Hawkins. Note that the Western States marriage data base does not list a marriage for Carl Garby and Lee Hawkins, so I can't verify if they married in Idaho before moving to DC (as Doc and Jeannie did) or if they married in DC after the move. -- Doc W 03:04, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I've added to Mrs. Garby's page today. Please review and comment.-- Doc W ( talk) 06:33, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
-Why was he called "Doc" and what are details of Phd. Lycurgus 11:29, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
The last two paragraphs in the "Lensman" section of this article don't fit into that category. Does anyone know what we could do with them? Perhaps a "science fiction fandom" section or something? -- Pariah Press 05:03, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I managed to squeeze some specific recommendations from the fellow who rated this article:
"Hi there, I rated the article as part of an assessment drive to reduce the number of unrated biographies on Wikipedia (currently about 150,000). You should know that an assessment grade is neither a positive nor negative grade, and refers mostly to the amount of content and layout of the article. A "B" grade is actually quite good, and is the "highest" grade possible without a formal review such as within a Good Article nomination or Featured article nomination. That said, I do have a few suggestions:
-- Pariah Press 03:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Flash, I do understand your point / concern, and part of why I went with the chemical career separate was that a lot of his professional history was not really well-structured chronologically through the article as we've added to it (a lot of which may be my fault). After thinking about your comment, let's consider the current organization vs. the following conceptual organization (headings could be revised, of course):
With events interposed based on what we know to the extent possible, and perhaps a little themic material (e.g. the section about plotting a "space police novel" in the late 1920's) shifted between chronological sections for themic continuity. Certainly I'll note that this type of organization would probably fit better with most encyclopedia biographys I've read. (Well, Admiral Lord Nelson, and mostly looking for parallels to Honor Harrington)
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Hi All! I'm not at all sure if this is the right place for this but here goes...
I'm new to this site & stumbled on it purely by accident while searching google for a complete set of the classic lensman series. I was given the 3rd book in the series by an uncle & a couple of years later my mother found second stage lensman. I know I must be able to get this set from somewhere as I finally managed to get the foundation trilogy & the 2 books that followed them...
So if anyone out there could help me to find or point me in the right direction this would end an agony of years searching ....
Thank you ...Del...
The Gutenberg Project page linked at the bottom has a book or story called Subspace Survivors, but that title isn't mentioned on the page here at all. The PG page says it came from the July 1960 Astounding Science Fact and Fiction, so it seems likely that it's the first 30 pages of Subspace Explorers mentioned in the article, but can this be verified? -- 68.44.13.236 02:09, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Ron Howard's Imagine Entertainment and Universal Studios are in negotiation with the Smith estate for an 18-month film rights option on the series. [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doc W ( talk • contribs) 04:47, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
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I just finished the tedious task of cleaning up a bunch of duplicate footnotes. I know it's a bit of trouble, but please try to keep the footnotes tidy, as there are a lot of them. -- Pariah Press ( talk) 03:47, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, are we? -- Pariah Press ( talk) 03:47, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
-- Pariah Press ( talk) 03:51, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 21:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I know that this is an matter of taste, but this article strikes me as excessively detailed.
Such items as the names of all of Smith's (non-notable) siblings, the professions of Smith's wife's parents, the details of the death of his classmate, are, if not fancruft, then biography
cruft: "content of importance (I would have said "of interest") only to a small population of enthusiastic fans of the subject in question."
Facts are good things, very good indeed, but as RAH says, "Would you bolt a bathtub onto whatever project you're building, just because you have one available?"
Let's exercise a little editorial discretion here and trim some of this.
- Respectfully,
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I'm going to remove the note about Moskowitz being inaccurate; I've heard this too, but I don't think we can use Gharlane as a reliable source. (It's not a question of whether he's right; it's just not a published, peer-reviewed source, that's all.) In any case I think we need to either trust a source or not use it. The best thing would be to support whatever facts are quoted from other sources too.
I also would say that the comment about the editorship of Amazing being a basic error is perhaps unfair. Sloane was indeed under Gernsback at the time Skylark was sold, but Ashley's The Time Machines says that Sloane was doing the practical editorial work, including reading all the fiction. Gernsback had final say over what was printed. In these circumstances I think it's excusable to refer to Sloane as the editor. Mike Christie (talk) 00:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
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There is one apparently now unknown, and sort lived, book in the Lensman series which is missing from the book list for this series. Dr. Smith did publish a book titled "The Red Lensman" As a young teenager in 1967 I read this book, it was a numbered first addition signed copy with, as I recall book number #96. It sticks in my mind because this was first such book I had seen. The Red Lensman book was later incorporated into the Second Stage Lensman. When you read the Second Stage Lensman you can see the basic story. Lensman Kimball Kinnison sent Clarissa MacDougall to the Plant of the Amazons. Kinnison with Mentor of Arisia watching gave Clarissa the "treatment" and made her a lensman he did this so Clarissa could deal with the Amazons who had rather impressive mental powers, she called herself a "Red Lensman", "not a real lensman". The Red Lemsman was the story of her work with the Matriarchy of Layrane and the Amazon Kinnison called Helen of Troy. I wish I had this book now, a signed and numbered edition of the Red Lensman it would surely be worth it's weight in gold. Transmaster ( talk) 07:45, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
I think it looks a little clumsy the way it is now. The chemical and his writing career are tangled into each other. Why not dedicate one section to his life as a writer, and another to his work in the food industry and such? It has already been tried, but it was changed back the way it was. 84.210.35.162 ( talk) 00:09, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
I must say this is a beautiful article.
A couple of things that could be added, if they could be tracked down.
Anything on concepts Smith brought to SF? The credit, perhaps? Mzk1 ( talk) 22:37, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
"...Gray Lensman was first place in the Analytical Laboratory statistics "by a lightyear", with three runners-up in a distant tie for third place."
OK, what happened to second place? Dick Kimball ( talk) 14:39, 10 August 2012 (UTC) Dick Kimball ( talk) 14:42, 10 August 2012 (UTC) Dick Kimball ( talk) 14:44, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
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This article has been placed in the category "Guggenheim Fellows", but this is not correct; "Doc" Smith never received a Guggenheim Fellowship. The E. E. Smith who received a Guggenheim Fellowship was a psychologist who lived 1940-2012 and received the award in 1992. [1] [2] I have removed the category from the article, but as a new editor, I thought I should explain my reason for the change.
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Could someone go in and complete all the partial citations that are just an author name and page number? Whatever publications are being referenced aren't mentioned anywhere on the page, and it makes the citations almost unusable. Thanks! Xscapist ( talk) 22:42, 13 January 2022 (UTC)