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Doesn't Aragorn or Sam chant a poem about Eärendil in LOTR?
I understand that the poem in LotR is only a first draft, and that a longer, more polished and complete version exists which was never published. Does anyone know about this? 173.13.153.50 ( talk) 22:02, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Dost thou mean "Eärendil the mariner"?-- Aaronsdavis ( talk) 14:37, 18 April 2011 (UTC)-- Aaronsdavis ( talk) 14:37, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
The scholarly consensus currently is that Cynewulf did not compose the poem commonly referred to as “Christ 1,” which is the poem where Tolkien found his inspiration for the name. I recommend removing the attribution to Cynewulf. Also, the term “Anglo-Saxon” to refer to the language spoken in early medieval England has been shown to be inaccurate as they didn’t refer to themselves as “Anglo-Saxon.” This term was created in the 19th century and has problematic racist and nationalist implications. It has recently fallen out of use by scholars. I recommend changing all mentions of “Anglo-Saxon” to “Old English.” — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:2183:9900:8C6F:D873:E2C8:77C6 ( talk) 03:11, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
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Reviewer: RockMagnetist ( talk · contribs) 18:31, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
I am going to review this article. RockMagnetist( talk) 18:31, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
My overall impression is good and I don't think this is going to take very long.
This section is so lacking in context that is means almost nothing to someone who is not already a serious Tolkien geek. It needs some basics like: What age is this, and how does it relate to the age that The Lord of the Rings takes place in? What is the geography? ( File:Sketch Map of Beleriand.svg might help with this.) What were the major events that were relevant to the lives of these characters, what were the peoples and who were the major characters?
Just to give some examples of my confusion as I'm reading this:
I don't think a lot of detail is needed, but the reader needs to know they should care about any of this. Some space can be freed up by cutting the extended quote, which adds little to the story, and replacing it by a summary sentence.
I think it's worth adding that I have read Lord of the Rings and The Silmarillion, the latter a long time ago, and knew some of the answers at one time, so I'm probably your baseline for likely readers of this article. RockMagnetist( talk) 20:52, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
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Doesn't Aragorn or Sam chant a poem about Eärendil in LOTR?
I understand that the poem in LotR is only a first draft, and that a longer, more polished and complete version exists which was never published. Does anyone know about this? 173.13.153.50 ( talk) 22:02, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Dost thou mean "Eärendil the mariner"?-- Aaronsdavis ( talk) 14:37, 18 April 2011 (UTC)-- Aaronsdavis ( talk) 14:37, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
The scholarly consensus currently is that Cynewulf did not compose the poem commonly referred to as “Christ 1,” which is the poem where Tolkien found his inspiration for the name. I recommend removing the attribution to Cynewulf. Also, the term “Anglo-Saxon” to refer to the language spoken in early medieval England has been shown to be inaccurate as they didn’t refer to themselves as “Anglo-Saxon.” This term was created in the 19th century and has problematic racist and nationalist implications. It has recently fallen out of use by scholars. I recommend changing all mentions of “Anglo-Saxon” to “Old English.” — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:2183:9900:8C6F:D873:E2C8:77C6 ( talk) 03:11, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
Aerandir. The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 14#Aerandir until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
Hog Farm
Bacon
20:20, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
Eärnil. The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 14#Eärnil until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
Hildeoc (
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11:49, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
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Reviewer: RockMagnetist ( talk · contribs) 18:31, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
I am going to review this article. RockMagnetist( talk) 18:31, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
My overall impression is good and I don't think this is going to take very long.
This section is so lacking in context that is means almost nothing to someone who is not already a serious Tolkien geek. It needs some basics like: What age is this, and how does it relate to the age that The Lord of the Rings takes place in? What is the geography? ( File:Sketch Map of Beleriand.svg might help with this.) What were the major events that were relevant to the lives of these characters, what were the peoples and who were the major characters?
Just to give some examples of my confusion as I'm reading this:
I don't think a lot of detail is needed, but the reader needs to know they should care about any of this. Some space can be freed up by cutting the extended quote, which adds little to the story, and replacing it by a summary sentence.
I think it's worth adding that I have read Lord of the Rings and The Silmarillion, the latter a long time ago, and knew some of the answers at one time, so I'm probably your baseline for likely readers of this article. RockMagnetist( talk) 20:52, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 19:11, 14 May 2023 (UTC)