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His father's real last name is Bowles according to this very site and other multiple sources. Seen in this clip, when only three years old, his father calls him Dewey. He also tells Mick Foley's family in Beyond the Mat that it is his first name. He also mentions this full name in his autobiography. His birth name is Dwayne Johnson seeing as father changed his name after he left Canada. ( 75.161.166.142 ( talk) 06:12, 25 December 2007 (UTC))
Whoever the hell has been adding Grey Lynn, New Zealand, as a place where Rock lived ought to cite where they did get that information, please! Eaglestorm ( talk) 02:39, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
If his TV appearance are listed under his filmography (That 70's Show, Hanna Montana, etc.) shouldnt his SNL appearances be on there too?? I'd add them but I dont know the dates. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.84.243.149 ( talk) 00:45, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Dwayne appeared on the popular UK Saturday Morning show Soccer AM, on the 1st Of March and he also appeared on the 31st Of Febuary edition of the incredibly popular show 'Friday Night With Jonathan Ross' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.20.200.196 ( talk) 20:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
There are rumours circulating that the Rock will make an appearance around WrestleMania XXIV and probably do some promos, as he will be inducting his father into the WWE Hall of Fame. GuffasBorgz7 ( talk) 11:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
How could Rock deliver a speech at the Republican National Convention in 2002, when there wasn't one in that year? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.25.48.84 ( talk) 00:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Anyone who actually watched the WWF before 1998 knows Rocky used these as finishers in his early days. Give your comments, since someone who is very misinformed reverted these additions with the strange comment of "its not his moves." Okay... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Max85 ( talk • contribs) 07:49, 4 March 2008
Sure did Joe ferst ( talk) 00:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I have been asked to look over this article before it is nominated for a Good Article review. I have looked it over, and a few things stand out that should be addressed:
This isn't a complete list, but taking care of these would put the article very close to GA level. Some thorough copyediting (preferably by editors from multiple projects) would also be a great idea. Because there is so much information about the subject, this article will need quite a bit of work before being nominated. It would be worthwhile, though, as this article undoubtedly receives a lot of traffic. GaryColemanFan ( talk) 20:57, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
This page should be under Dwayne Johnson...the arguments below in favour of keeping it as the Rock are based on him being better known by this name however many other wrestlers such as Adam Copeland have their pages under their real name instead of their stage name. 99.241.48.112 ( talk) 00:50, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
i read he was returning true false please keep looking provide source hedre for me 2 read —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.141.133.48 ( talk) 20:41, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of the Rocks book? It was called the Rock says and made the top sellers list. LifeStroke420 ( talk) 05:43, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
In the section where it mentions Rock's return at the Hall Of Fame, it says he "insulted superstars such as...".
Could we not change that to "jokingly insulted" or something similar, as "insulted" sounds like he was legitimately insulting them, which he wasn't obviously. WilkoDCFC ( talk) 19:45, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
in the game plan all his tattoos where covered up and not seeably should this be menstions in the rocks articial or the game plans artical forgive me for still calling him the rock but hes mostly known by that also i read a few days ago he was returning and going to be wwe champion was that true but removed as telling the future stuff and wikipedia not news site thanks KCDavis ( talk) 12:39, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
One, when it says he took off in 2001 in the kayfabe suspension to film The Mummy Returns, he was actually filming The Scorpion King. The Mummy Returns came out around the same time as WM17, and he filmed that in 2000, shortly after winning the WWF Championship.
Also, in the 'sporadic appearances' section, he defended Mick Foley from La Resistance BEFORE WMXX, not after. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffroper ( talk • contribs) 09:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Just noticed a possible error that you may want to know about, according to http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/pages/pwi/pwi50000.htm the rock was #2 in the PWI 500 in 2000 but it says 2002 in the article, the year in which this site says he was #9 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.197.153.8 ( talk) 13:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Dwayne Johnson was not an offensive lineman; he was a defensive lineman. He stated on " The Best Damn Sports Show Period," that he was the only person to sack Charlie Ward during the 1993 season. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.203.134.243 ( talk) 23:00, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
"He is of half black, half Samoan heritage (his mother is Samoan and his father is African-Canadian)."
that sentence suggests that black is a country,or Samoan - a race. Half Samoan, half African-Canadian would be more than enough, otherwise it sounds like an uneducated 10-year-old wrote it.
domi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.92.80.187 ( talk) 22:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
On the June 18 2008 episiode of the tonight show with jay leno, he made a failed attempt to joke about his bisexuality while speaking about bipolars. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.164.121 ( talk) 04:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Why is this article still named The Rock? He is done with wrestling. He was going by Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson for a while and his last movie he dropped The Rock completely. 68.166.37.220 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 22:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
He is now known professionally as Dwayne Johnson. That's what it should be. Mshake3 ( talk) 03:22, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Maybe even something along the lines of two seperate pages one for the Rock as a WWE character and another for Dwayne Johnson the actor, similar to what is done with other famous tv characters and their portrayers (i.e. Fraser and Kelsey Grammar) Ipunknown ( talk) 04:18, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm for a name change. He's been trying to move away from being known simply as the Rock. -- Endless Dan 17:09, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Actually it has to do with legality. WWE owns the name The Rock, and when its a WWE Film he goes by "The Rock" and when the studio pays WWE a licensing film, they let him go by Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, but some studios feel they dont need to pay WWE as hes known well enough. That being said, I think he is known well enough by his real name. Less Than Clippers 19:44, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Weak oppose. Oppose would be stronger if the page was just " The Rock". Looking at his movie career at Box Office Mojo [1] He has made $400 million in grosses in his career as a star. In 5 of his 8 movies including The Scorpion King ($91m, his biggest hit) he was billed as "The Rock". Even in Game Plan ($90m, his second biggest hit) he was "Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson" so he is still trading off his fame as that persona. Also billed as "The Rock" in The Mummy Returns which was way bigger than any of his starring vehicles ($202m). At IMDb [2] he is billed as The Rock for his wrestling stuff as recently as 2007. Therefore has not (yet?) made the same impact as Dwayne Johnson. Songs of ts steiner ( talk) 19:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
My whole spin on this is that he decided he wanted to be known as his real name Dwayne Johnson rather than the Rock. In my opinion he should have kept the name The Rock but he didn't. That's why I think we should go by what he's going by. The same thing for puffy/p. diddy/diddy. It pisses me off that he keeps changing his name, but thats his decision and we can't keep calling him puffy. 68.166.37.220 ( talk) 07:24, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
The Rock was a DEFENSIVE lineman at U of Miami and in the CFL - Not an OFFENSIVE lineman... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.114.58.46 ( talk) 18:45, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Should there be a new discussion on moving this to just Dwayne Johnson, since that's how he's now going to be billed in the movies, starting with Get Smart? 76.226.140.56 ( talk) 05:27, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't care about the issues up above with that. This article should be named DWAYNE JOHNSON due to the fact of him denouncing his name and not wanting to use it anymore and officially retiring from wrestling. That was his name there. Not in HOLLYWOOD. He is now Dwayne Johnson, and I don't think that The Rock (entertainer) should be the title of the page. It should be his real name. 69.61.221.25 ( talk) 02:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
he wishs to be know as dyawn cuz young people dont know him as rock so its confusing for then i read this on internet 172.141.44.233 ( talk) 13:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I think the article should be renamed Dwayne Johnson in that he is no longer being billed as The Rock. If Booker T's article can be name Booker Huffman, the Rock's can be named Dwayne Johnson. SChaos1701 ( talk) 20:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Join in the discussion here. Your arguments will be seen by more people. ♥ Nici♥ Vampire♥ Heart♥ 23:00, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
He's been credited in his last few movies as Dwayne Johnson. He is also being credited in Get Smart as Dwayne Johnson. Even at his last WWE appearance they called him Dwayne Johnson. 68.164.85.143 ( talk) 21:41, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Is his legal last name Johnson? His fathers real last name is apparently Bowles. Inhumer ( talk) 12:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
I have a problem with The Rock(entertainer). What in the world is an entertainer? It should be actor since he is no longer wrestling. If he were acting and wrestling at the same time he might concievably be an entertainer but acting is all he is doing at this point. I guess the whole point is moot since I'd rather have the article be changed to Dwayne Johnson and leave it at that. Drumac ( talk) 22:29, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Dwayne Johnson confirmed tonight on The Tonight Show that he has dropped "The Rock" and is now just going by "Dwayne Johnson". Just thought you people should know. Save-Me-Oprah (talk) 04:08, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was
Move to Dwayne Johnson. He's no longer just, "The Rock". In his last several films, he was billed as only Dwayne Johnson. I can't believe the article title is actually The Rock (entertainer). This has been discussed before here, but closed with no apparent conclusion. I make a better case on there, but please read all opinions. WP:COMMONNAME isn't an acceptable rebuttal as I can and did made a strong case that Dwayne Johnson would fit that bill.
I disagree with your pov that none of his movies have been blockbusters. The Game Plan (film) made over $100 million dollars just in the theatres. This does not include DVD sales (which was the #1 DVD for 2 weeks upon release). But that's just one movie. In comparison, as far I know no WWE event (with or without the Rock) has ever banked $100 mill (including gate & tv revenue). If you review the WrestleMania X-Seven article, which had one of the Rock's biggest matches ever, the gate at the event was meerly $3.5 million... for "a record-breaking event".
That's retarded. No conclusive evidence that movies are bigger then wrestling?? C'mon. It's common sense. If Hulk Hogan is wrestling's biggest star, I'm sure we can make a laundry list of much more famous actors. There is a reason why Tom Cruise gets paid 30 million dollars a film and Hogan is doing a reality show on CMT.-- Endless Dan 12:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
“ | After proving he could carry a movie to No. 1 with last fall's surprise hit The Game Plan, he's positioning himself as Hollywood's go-to family comedy hitman. It's all part of the latest reinvention of The Rock — which starts with not referring to himself as The Rock. "I'm aware of everything that comes with that nickname, and I just think there's a lot more you can do without it," he says. "But I wanted it to happen naturally, from 'The Rock' to Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson to 'Dwayne Johnson. He doesn't do the thing with the eyebrow anymore, either, and he's trimmed pounds of meathead muscle off his still handsomely chiseled 6'4" self. The purpose of this massive rebranding effort: to cast himself in the image of his four-quadrant matinee idols Will Smith and Tom Hanks. "They embrace being a movie star from beginning to end," says the 36-year-old actor. "From preproduction through the all-important marketing, they work hard and enjoy it." [3] | ” |
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson seems like the best compromise and the most acceptable fit as it would encompass both names. He hasn't been billed as simply The Rock in his movies in quite some time, but he has used and has been refered to Dwayne "the Rock" Johnson for media appearances and some of his movies (although, his latest movies he has dropped "The Rock" name). For everyone who voted above or who has not yet cast vote, would this satisfactory? This would also eliminate the (entertainer) tag and should end this seemingly never-ending arguement. -- Endless Dan 13:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Coleman, I've demonstrated Dwayne Johnson is a viable star grossing over 200 mill in the last 3 years more then he's ever made for or with the WWF. But I keep hearing "Rock" is his common name, but where's the proof? Wraslin is not bigger or more important than Hollywood. WWE is not bigger than Disney films. Not by a mile. We've provided requested links, I've given WP:FILM a heads up, I've even invited other members of this very project to voice there opinions and still nothing. -- Endless Dan 18:58, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
So are we going to come to a decision in regards to this situation or are we just gonna sit on this topic and is it just going to dissapear into the archives of wikipedia as usual? ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② talk 02:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to put WP:IAR into play here, as I believe a straw poll is the best option right now. I'll leave the poll open for one week. -- iMatthew T. C. 23:52, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
It's been a full week. Can we call this a wrap? -- Endless Dan 12:51, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
This vote is for no article name change.
Right, I've changed this slightly as the way it read suggested that whilst a face, Christian was declared his "favourite wrestler". I watched during that period however, hell I even watched these sketches on youtube again the other day, and know that wasn't the case. There was a brief storyline, during Rock's feud with Goldberg, where Christian (also a heel) became almost like Rock's lackey, ie remember that Raw where Christian was encouraged by Rock over the phone to go call Goldberg out. Then suddenly one night Rock turned face, and Christian told him he'd been "replaced" as the people's champ. Whoever it is, please do not revert this change, or fix the implications of the sentence. The way it was beforehand was misleading. -- Simonski ( talk) 10:06, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
this article refers to him as both African-Canadian and African-American. I think the use of one or another would be better than using both. I'm not arguing if he can be both because I feel you can - African-American referencing North America in general and not just the United States. I just think that one needs to be picked and used through out, to maintain congruency in the page. ( Trevorparker ( talk) 16:23, 22 July 2008 (UTC))
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His father's real last name is Bowles according to this very site and other multiple sources. Seen in this clip, when only three years old, his father calls him Dewey. He also tells Mick Foley's family in Beyond the Mat that it is his first name. He also mentions this full name in his autobiography. His birth name is Dwayne Johnson seeing as father changed his name after he left Canada. ( 75.161.166.142 ( talk) 06:12, 25 December 2007 (UTC))
Whoever the hell has been adding Grey Lynn, New Zealand, as a place where Rock lived ought to cite where they did get that information, please! Eaglestorm ( talk) 02:39, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
If his TV appearance are listed under his filmography (That 70's Show, Hanna Montana, etc.) shouldnt his SNL appearances be on there too?? I'd add them but I dont know the dates. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.84.243.149 ( talk) 00:45, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Dwayne appeared on the popular UK Saturday Morning show Soccer AM, on the 1st Of March and he also appeared on the 31st Of Febuary edition of the incredibly popular show 'Friday Night With Jonathan Ross' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.20.200.196 ( talk) 20:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
There are rumours circulating that the Rock will make an appearance around WrestleMania XXIV and probably do some promos, as he will be inducting his father into the WWE Hall of Fame. GuffasBorgz7 ( talk) 11:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
How could Rock deliver a speech at the Republican National Convention in 2002, when there wasn't one in that year? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.25.48.84 ( talk) 00:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Anyone who actually watched the WWF before 1998 knows Rocky used these as finishers in his early days. Give your comments, since someone who is very misinformed reverted these additions with the strange comment of "its not his moves." Okay... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Max85 ( talk • contribs) 07:49, 4 March 2008
Sure did Joe ferst ( talk) 00:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I have been asked to look over this article before it is nominated for a Good Article review. I have looked it over, and a few things stand out that should be addressed:
This isn't a complete list, but taking care of these would put the article very close to GA level. Some thorough copyediting (preferably by editors from multiple projects) would also be a great idea. Because there is so much information about the subject, this article will need quite a bit of work before being nominated. It would be worthwhile, though, as this article undoubtedly receives a lot of traffic. GaryColemanFan ( talk) 20:57, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
This page should be under Dwayne Johnson...the arguments below in favour of keeping it as the Rock are based on him being better known by this name however many other wrestlers such as Adam Copeland have their pages under their real name instead of their stage name. 99.241.48.112 ( talk) 00:50, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
i read he was returning true false please keep looking provide source hedre for me 2 read —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.141.133.48 ( talk) 20:41, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of the Rocks book? It was called the Rock says and made the top sellers list. LifeStroke420 ( talk) 05:43, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
In the section where it mentions Rock's return at the Hall Of Fame, it says he "insulted superstars such as...".
Could we not change that to "jokingly insulted" or something similar, as "insulted" sounds like he was legitimately insulting them, which he wasn't obviously. WilkoDCFC ( talk) 19:45, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
in the game plan all his tattoos where covered up and not seeably should this be menstions in the rocks articial or the game plans artical forgive me for still calling him the rock but hes mostly known by that also i read a few days ago he was returning and going to be wwe champion was that true but removed as telling the future stuff and wikipedia not news site thanks KCDavis ( talk) 12:39, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
One, when it says he took off in 2001 in the kayfabe suspension to film The Mummy Returns, he was actually filming The Scorpion King. The Mummy Returns came out around the same time as WM17, and he filmed that in 2000, shortly after winning the WWF Championship.
Also, in the 'sporadic appearances' section, he defended Mick Foley from La Resistance BEFORE WMXX, not after. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffroper ( talk • contribs) 09:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Just noticed a possible error that you may want to know about, according to http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/pages/pwi/pwi50000.htm the rock was #2 in the PWI 500 in 2000 but it says 2002 in the article, the year in which this site says he was #9 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.197.153.8 ( talk) 13:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Dwayne Johnson was not an offensive lineman; he was a defensive lineman. He stated on " The Best Damn Sports Show Period," that he was the only person to sack Charlie Ward during the 1993 season. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.203.134.243 ( talk) 23:00, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
"He is of half black, half Samoan heritage (his mother is Samoan and his father is African-Canadian)."
that sentence suggests that black is a country,or Samoan - a race. Half Samoan, half African-Canadian would be more than enough, otherwise it sounds like an uneducated 10-year-old wrote it.
domi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.92.80.187 ( talk) 22:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
On the June 18 2008 episiode of the tonight show with jay leno, he made a failed attempt to joke about his bisexuality while speaking about bipolars. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.164.121 ( talk) 04:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Why is this article still named The Rock? He is done with wrestling. He was going by Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson for a while and his last movie he dropped The Rock completely. 68.166.37.220 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 22:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
He is now known professionally as Dwayne Johnson. That's what it should be. Mshake3 ( talk) 03:22, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Maybe even something along the lines of two seperate pages one for the Rock as a WWE character and another for Dwayne Johnson the actor, similar to what is done with other famous tv characters and their portrayers (i.e. Fraser and Kelsey Grammar) Ipunknown ( talk) 04:18, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm for a name change. He's been trying to move away from being known simply as the Rock. -- Endless Dan 17:09, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Actually it has to do with legality. WWE owns the name The Rock, and when its a WWE Film he goes by "The Rock" and when the studio pays WWE a licensing film, they let him go by Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, but some studios feel they dont need to pay WWE as hes known well enough. That being said, I think he is known well enough by his real name. Less Than Clippers 19:44, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Weak oppose. Oppose would be stronger if the page was just " The Rock". Looking at his movie career at Box Office Mojo [1] He has made $400 million in grosses in his career as a star. In 5 of his 8 movies including The Scorpion King ($91m, his biggest hit) he was billed as "The Rock". Even in Game Plan ($90m, his second biggest hit) he was "Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson" so he is still trading off his fame as that persona. Also billed as "The Rock" in The Mummy Returns which was way bigger than any of his starring vehicles ($202m). At IMDb [2] he is billed as The Rock for his wrestling stuff as recently as 2007. Therefore has not (yet?) made the same impact as Dwayne Johnson. Songs of ts steiner ( talk) 19:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
My whole spin on this is that he decided he wanted to be known as his real name Dwayne Johnson rather than the Rock. In my opinion he should have kept the name The Rock but he didn't. That's why I think we should go by what he's going by. The same thing for puffy/p. diddy/diddy. It pisses me off that he keeps changing his name, but thats his decision and we can't keep calling him puffy. 68.166.37.220 ( talk) 07:24, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
The Rock was a DEFENSIVE lineman at U of Miami and in the CFL - Not an OFFENSIVE lineman... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.114.58.46 ( talk) 18:45, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Should there be a new discussion on moving this to just Dwayne Johnson, since that's how he's now going to be billed in the movies, starting with Get Smart? 76.226.140.56 ( talk) 05:27, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't care about the issues up above with that. This article should be named DWAYNE JOHNSON due to the fact of him denouncing his name and not wanting to use it anymore and officially retiring from wrestling. That was his name there. Not in HOLLYWOOD. He is now Dwayne Johnson, and I don't think that The Rock (entertainer) should be the title of the page. It should be his real name. 69.61.221.25 ( talk) 02:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
he wishs to be know as dyawn cuz young people dont know him as rock so its confusing for then i read this on internet 172.141.44.233 ( talk) 13:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I think the article should be renamed Dwayne Johnson in that he is no longer being billed as The Rock. If Booker T's article can be name Booker Huffman, the Rock's can be named Dwayne Johnson. SChaos1701 ( talk) 20:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Join in the discussion here. Your arguments will be seen by more people. ♥ Nici♥ Vampire♥ Heart♥ 23:00, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
He's been credited in his last few movies as Dwayne Johnson. He is also being credited in Get Smart as Dwayne Johnson. Even at his last WWE appearance they called him Dwayne Johnson. 68.164.85.143 ( talk) 21:41, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Is his legal last name Johnson? His fathers real last name is apparently Bowles. Inhumer ( talk) 12:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
I have a problem with The Rock(entertainer). What in the world is an entertainer? It should be actor since he is no longer wrestling. If he were acting and wrestling at the same time he might concievably be an entertainer but acting is all he is doing at this point. I guess the whole point is moot since I'd rather have the article be changed to Dwayne Johnson and leave it at that. Drumac ( talk) 22:29, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Dwayne Johnson confirmed tonight on The Tonight Show that he has dropped "The Rock" and is now just going by "Dwayne Johnson". Just thought you people should know. Save-Me-Oprah (talk) 04:08, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was
Move to Dwayne Johnson. He's no longer just, "The Rock". In his last several films, he was billed as only Dwayne Johnson. I can't believe the article title is actually The Rock (entertainer). This has been discussed before here, but closed with no apparent conclusion. I make a better case on there, but please read all opinions. WP:COMMONNAME isn't an acceptable rebuttal as I can and did made a strong case that Dwayne Johnson would fit that bill.
I disagree with your pov that none of his movies have been blockbusters. The Game Plan (film) made over $100 million dollars just in the theatres. This does not include DVD sales (which was the #1 DVD for 2 weeks upon release). But that's just one movie. In comparison, as far I know no WWE event (with or without the Rock) has ever banked $100 mill (including gate & tv revenue). If you review the WrestleMania X-Seven article, which had one of the Rock's biggest matches ever, the gate at the event was meerly $3.5 million... for "a record-breaking event".
That's retarded. No conclusive evidence that movies are bigger then wrestling?? C'mon. It's common sense. If Hulk Hogan is wrestling's biggest star, I'm sure we can make a laundry list of much more famous actors. There is a reason why Tom Cruise gets paid 30 million dollars a film and Hogan is doing a reality show on CMT.-- Endless Dan 12:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
“ | After proving he could carry a movie to No. 1 with last fall's surprise hit The Game Plan, he's positioning himself as Hollywood's go-to family comedy hitman. It's all part of the latest reinvention of The Rock — which starts with not referring to himself as The Rock. "I'm aware of everything that comes with that nickname, and I just think there's a lot more you can do without it," he says. "But I wanted it to happen naturally, from 'The Rock' to Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson to 'Dwayne Johnson. He doesn't do the thing with the eyebrow anymore, either, and he's trimmed pounds of meathead muscle off his still handsomely chiseled 6'4" self. The purpose of this massive rebranding effort: to cast himself in the image of his four-quadrant matinee idols Will Smith and Tom Hanks. "They embrace being a movie star from beginning to end," says the 36-year-old actor. "From preproduction through the all-important marketing, they work hard and enjoy it." [3] | ” |
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson seems like the best compromise and the most acceptable fit as it would encompass both names. He hasn't been billed as simply The Rock in his movies in quite some time, but he has used and has been refered to Dwayne "the Rock" Johnson for media appearances and some of his movies (although, his latest movies he has dropped "The Rock" name). For everyone who voted above or who has not yet cast vote, would this satisfactory? This would also eliminate the (entertainer) tag and should end this seemingly never-ending arguement. -- Endless Dan 13:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Coleman, I've demonstrated Dwayne Johnson is a viable star grossing over 200 mill in the last 3 years more then he's ever made for or with the WWF. But I keep hearing "Rock" is his common name, but where's the proof? Wraslin is not bigger or more important than Hollywood. WWE is not bigger than Disney films. Not by a mile. We've provided requested links, I've given WP:FILM a heads up, I've even invited other members of this very project to voice there opinions and still nothing. -- Endless Dan 18:58, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
So are we going to come to a decision in regards to this situation or are we just gonna sit on this topic and is it just going to dissapear into the archives of wikipedia as usual? ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② talk 02:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to put WP:IAR into play here, as I believe a straw poll is the best option right now. I'll leave the poll open for one week. -- iMatthew T. C. 23:52, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
It's been a full week. Can we call this a wrap? -- Endless Dan 12:51, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
This vote is for no article name change.
Right, I've changed this slightly as the way it read suggested that whilst a face, Christian was declared his "favourite wrestler". I watched during that period however, hell I even watched these sketches on youtube again the other day, and know that wasn't the case. There was a brief storyline, during Rock's feud with Goldberg, where Christian (also a heel) became almost like Rock's lackey, ie remember that Raw where Christian was encouraged by Rock over the phone to go call Goldberg out. Then suddenly one night Rock turned face, and Christian told him he'd been "replaced" as the people's champ. Whoever it is, please do not revert this change, or fix the implications of the sentence. The way it was beforehand was misleading. -- Simonski ( talk) 10:06, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
this article refers to him as both African-Canadian and African-American. I think the use of one or another would be better than using both. I'm not arguing if he can be both because I feel you can - African-American referencing North America in general and not just the United States. I just think that one needs to be picked and used through out, to maintain congruency in the page. ( Trevorparker ( talk) 16:23, 22 July 2008 (UTC))