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I'm sorry, could anybody with a rucksack of patience clean up and reorganize even this discussion page, besides the voice itself? the are a lof of repetitions, jumps from aft to starboard, and timeline messups.
I believe that by now the band should be tagged as an English Pop band, period. They certainly aren't any genre in particular; New Romantic music is 26 years gone, so is New Wave; their Funk phase is also defunct; their Rock antics have never been to strong to begin with; and after all, Pop is what all commercially succesful bands make at some point in their career, and also that's what they usually end their career with. Tagging Durans with any specific styòle makes no sense whatsoever. I did not change the article, anyhow, because the page is currently protected. 94.163.117.59 ( talk) 14:04, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Eh? New Wave is not gone, it's still around (Kaiser Chiefs, Franz Ferdinand etc) and as for their rock antics never being strong, take a listen to their later material (guitar solos, heavy rhythm guitars and heavy drums). And New Wave is a genre of rock music anyway, so the word "rock" sums them up nicely. And they've influenced a lot of rock and metal bands (Deftones and Korn just to name a few). GNRDemocrazy ( talk) 18:46, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
All of the other paragraphs that talk about the various albums released by the Durans editorialize about their commercial reception except for RCM. I think it may be time to engage in a little editorialization. RCM has sold fewer copies than even Liberty:
Well I think it actually sold more than Liberty cause the sales moved up to 80,000 copies. And the album is still considered a hit. Also Falling down seems to be a hit as well in U.S. Both the album and the single did better in the U.S. than in U.K. In Italy however the album did very well as well as Falling down. Hopefully Nite runner will do better. Yamchaken ( talk) 05:18, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
well yah thats world wide. 800,000 was only in america not counting any other countrys, so it sold more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.87.6.102 ( talk) 06:34, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Dont get me wrong i love the album. But I had a feeling Duran Duran teamming up withe Justin Timberlake was going to be a bad idea. Then I had another bad feeling when Andy Taylor left the band again. I liked the album but Timberlands influene is all over the album. 6 synth pop ( talk) 11:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Roger Taylor is "wiki-linked" to the entry for the "other" Roger Taylor, who is the drummer for Queen. It should be noted that these are two different individuals. Is there a way to correct this?
Also, the text states: "Warren Cuccurullo stepped in as a guitarist in 1986, and with Le Bon, Rhodes, and Nick and John Taylor produced the hit song Notorious, which went to number 2 in the USA." There is no *Nick Taylor.* Should it have been Andy Taylor? Roger Taylor?
I've read your stuff and enjoyed reading. I didn't see factual errors, you may want to check participation at the Live Aid concert: are you sure they didn't attend the London part of the concert? You may be right though.
I think this section is so vague and far-fetched that isn't even funny. Anybody could be influenced by anybody else, but if their production doesn't CLEARLY reflect this (as is the case, for instance, of artist Mika mimicking Freddie Mercury), then it's just a waste of cyberspace. Notorious BIG influenced by Durans? WHOOA! Argomax ( talk) 14:25, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
(Moving this from the article until a better way can be found to integrate it...I don't think it would survive VFD as an article on its own.)
These musicians have stated in articles and interviews that they admire and have been inspired by Duran Duran's music:
Thanks to everyone who voted to make this a featured article! It's a nice reward for hard work by a lot of people. Catherine\ talk 17:48, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
What's up with the name Duran Duran? Where did it come from?
Durant-Durand was in J.C. Forest Barbarella comics an obvious reference to "Dupont et Dupond" aka the Thompson twins. Any connection with the band of the same era ? 62.212.105.216 17:03, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
There is a discrepancy in that the article gives the name as "Duran-Duran" whereas the Barbarella article spells it as Durand Durand. Which is correct? (IMDB says the latter) - Rob, 16:39, 21 Apr 2005 (GMT)
I've heard that during the View to a Kill video shoot the band members were barely talking to one another - could be urban myth, but I think the video never shows more that one of them on screen at once. Great work on the article, keep it up. Paul M
RE: "Andy was unhappy with the band's direction and ready to launch a solo career". Andy Taylor did do one solo record called Thunder. Should this be mentioned in the main article?
Anon user, please stop inserting the link for the Duran Duran 'DURANMANIA' Website at cjb.net. Discussion forums are not considered useful links for band sites. Even if forum sites were to be included, there are far more notable and heavily trafficked DD message boards; the cjb board has less than 400 posts total. I appreciate the desire to advertise your sites (including the one you continue to post at the Kajagoogoo article) but Wikipedia is not the venue for advertising of websites.
Please see the policies outlined at Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, Wikipedia:External links, and the Wikipedia:FAQ - external links.
You have added this link eleven times since it was first removed on November 28, 2004, and moved it above some of the official band sites in the list when I made attempts to compromise by classifying it under "fansites" or at the bottom of the list. It will continue to be removed. Please do not add it again. — Catherine\ talk 09:08, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I created a navigational template for the
Dream Theater article, {{
Dream Theater}}, that might be of use to the Duran Duran article (and its related pages). The
Iron Maiden and
Rush articles use the same template style, and it seems to work well for bands with many members and releases. Someone with enough knowledge to complete it for Duran Duran should consider doing so, it is very useful.
plattopus
talk 02:28, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
...and yet nobody spotted the mistake on the introduction which I have just edited. Andy Taylor, not John, plays bass. Such is this the case that he is an excellent bassist, an unsung hero at that. Celtmist 15-10-05
I've changed the New Romantic link in the lead section back to the broader New Wave music; the term "New Romantic" was a subgenre of New Wave, was almost never used outside the UK, and was only applied to the band for a year or so at the very beginning of their career. The New Romantic link is included in the "origins" section, as it should be, but I don't think it belongs in the lead section, as it doesn't sum up their place (such as it is) in music history as well. New Wave encompasses many more of their contemporaries and competitors. While they're certainly on the list at New Romantic, they've also been on our List of New Wave bands and artists since 2002 (well before my first edit here). Hope that explains my reasoning. Thanks, — Catherine\ talk 03:40, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
I second the latter opinion. Not only New Romantic was a genre in its own right running ALONGSIDE New Wave (and not within it), but it is generally considered more distinguishable, even almost 30 years away. Also, it should be by now common knowledge that the main inspirational force behind the early Durans (until 1982 at least) was the band Japan, which dissolved in late 1982, and Japan are considered to be the godfathers of New Romanticism (although Japan themselves never aknowledged the association). We can obvously say that many NR bands, such as Ultravox (second phase of them, when managed by Midge Ure and not John Foxx anymore), Spandau Ballet, and others, sometimes were also credited as New Wave acts, but only in the broader use of the term. Let's say this: New Romantic stand to New Wave like Heavy Metal stands to Rock. Close neighbors, sometimes in the same room, but each one sleeping in its own bed.
Max ventura, Italy.
Argomax (
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13:01, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
I would support placing them in a gay icons category. I know they do have a very large gay following, and even in the film American Pie 2 they implied that a night club was gay by playing "A View to a Kill"-- 68.126.145.15 19:27, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
A Google search for "duran duran" and "gay icon" turned up only a few links that explicitly make the connection:
Some interesting quotes though: Simon Le Bon: "I suppose we have adopted a certain flamboyance which, for some reason, has always been associated with gay people, and not everybody finds that easy to accept. But again this is just an example of people's attempts to separate everything into categories, to say this is gay but that isn't. It seems very silly to me because, after all, gay people are I exactly the same as everybody else in everything but their sexual habits. The people who insist on this sort of separation must have very closed minds." [18]
Nick Rhodes: “We’ve always had a strong gay following, which is great. It’s not something we ever thought of consciously. Because I just want anyone to get into the band, I’ve never differentiated at all. I think a certain amount of androgyny has always been a part of us. We sort of came out of the things we grew up with: glam-rock, which was a major influence, and then disco and punk rock somewhere along the way. We always had a very strong bond with the gay audience.” The Weekly News, Florida, July 13 2000
So not enough to go on in a cursory Googling, but more information is welcome if anyone would like to provide it. — Catherine\ talk 23:24, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Edited this section today to make it more accurate (they fired him in person and we announced it before they did, against their wishes) and wrap up his time in the band with the Japan dates. -- Cucfan
Electronic is not an accurate description of this bands music, Nick Rhodes may have been one of the main forces behind Duran Duran & he is without a doubt an electronic music wizard, most of Duran Durans music has equal measures of bass, lead guitar & keyboards. I have removed the "electronic" tag. ( Khanada 12:04, 8 March 2006 (UTC))
To be fair, the amount of "electronics" applied to Duran's music was higher at their earlier stages than after 1982, when the band had a much more mixed-up sound build-up. Even so, even by 1980, they weren't particularly proficient nor pioneering in their use of synths and sequencers. Artist like Gary Numan, Ultravox, Visage, and many, many more had already made riddles in the music charts with seriously synth-driven singles and albums, sometimes with barely a real drumset in sight. Duran's music should properly be tagged broadly as "pop", and specifically "New Romantic" for the first part of their carees, "funk" for the 1984/1988 part, and "I really don't know what" for the later years. :-) Max Ventura, Italy
Argomax (
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13:14, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
" Rio (Duran Duran single)" is quite poorly written with no additional info on the single except that on synth use. " The Wild Boys" - you don't have it. " My Own Way", just the infobox and absolutely no info, not even from what album is the single from. Please fill in the missing data, otherwise you don't need that article.
I might have made a few mistakes too but... Hey I'm not responsible for this I don't listen to them, I just converted the infoboxes. And this is a featured article, while their best singles are so lamely described???? This is not vandalism, it is critical commentary on the content.
I have used album infoboxes but if you wan't the infobox containing from what album is it just add "from Album = " after the artist column (row actually, you know what i mean). Example is " Too Much Information" if you even care to do such an update but you can just mention in the text This single is taken from the album.... I don't know from what albums they come, nor have time to search.
If you already have a table for singles then why are they listed before with the same info and with links, and they are not linked in the tables??
So that's it for now. I at least converted the infoboxes since nobody else cares about that! A little thanks on my talk page would be a sign that at least somebody cares? Death2 07:45, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Did anyone hear the rumour that the new album is called Gloss?
These look like they're due for a pruning... I doubt it's spamming but it's not looking too healthy. TheGrappler 20:24, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't the first line be "Duran Duran are a English (or british) New Wave band" instead of just "Duran Duran are a New Wave band".
In the infobox, for country it say Birmingham, England instead of just England.
I've searched through Wikipedia and can't find any information about songs that Duran Duran DID produce in 1978 which include Secret Oktober, Faster than light, Fame...etc.
I can remember those three songs, but not any of the others. Does anyone know what the other songs are, and the title of the album?
Jamie
...and then they started using remixes of the single or album tracks as bonus tracks, instead of unique recordings. Hope that helps! —
Catherine\
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16:00, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
i like the table of dates for 2006. and i'm glad that the rumour about Andy Taylor was taken down... do people agree that its not a place for rumours? keep up the good work..
Cleaned up some typoes & misspellings, moved the Nick Rhodes vocal comment to the Medazzaland paragraph from the Pop Trash paragraph, added Wes's type of cancer, removed the subjective & uncited Depeche Mode comparison for the Pop Trash album. --- Cucfan
Some of today's hottest pop stars are most definately taking cues from Duran Duran's blueprint for music video making. Just look at Snoop Dogg's video for "Signs" with Justin Timberlake. Though that particular video was shot on the Las Vegas Strip and not on an exotic beach, the formula that Duran Duran had used is most definately present; beautiful women, sharp dressed men and pleanty of bling. Gwen Stefani's videos for "What You Waiting For?", "Rich Girl" and "Cool" all have a sort of whimsical feel to them, much like Duran Duran's did in the '80s.
Seems pretty much like original research to me. Its not even written properly for an encyclopedia. I think it should be removed.
TommyStardust 17:22, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Obviously Power Station was more guitar driven than most Duran Duran material. However, there was still an emphasis on RnB/Funk style dance grooves. I mean they had the drummer from CHIC, how much more funky can you get. The article sounds like they could have been touring with RATT or Motley Crue. (ALV) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.225.143.253 ( talk) 22:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC).
Haw haw haw. Right. i second that.
Argomax (
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13:16, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
There is absolutely no need for this page to begin with the phrase
Duran Duran are an internationally famous band who have sold many millions of records. Duran Duran Duran are not. It is almost inconceivable that anyone would mistakenly visit the Duran Duran page looking for such a bunch of nonentities.
It seems to me that the clarification was inserted to advertise Duran Duran Duran to a wider audience, rather than to avoid any confusion. Therefore, it has been removed (twice now). Malcolm Starkey 21:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
There's a problem to link:
If you go to "Discography", you will enter on [19] Take That's page! User:Rbrandao 14:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Theres a line which stated that Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake both praised the band. Do we have a ref for this? Also, Spears was removed by an anon-IP. Might be vandalism... do we really need to put her back? :P
xCentaur |
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18:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Man, at some point in our life we all praised Duran Duran. Heck, they made millions od bucks and wooed millions of chicks. Praise them!
Max Ventura, Italy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Argomax ( talk • contribs) 13:40, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Is this the correct genre to list Duran Duran under? I am leaning towards 'disagree'. RetsRÖftsugua 09:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
hi, found something interesting... a new english band called The Klaxons cited Duran as one of their influences.... "Some things about making the record were more fun than others, but the sound was there from the beginning," Levine says. "U2, Peter Gabriel, the Cure, Duran Duran — their records were huge to me. They're icons, and you respect them not just musically but because of their careers", http://www.calendarlive.com/music/cl-wk-bands19apr19,0,7778974.story?coll=cl-music-features just thought you might wanna add it to the main article.
'Discussion forums are not considered useful links for band sites'
Why? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.194.44.250 ( talk) 14:56, 12 May 2007 (UTC).
I've removed the links to a commercial fan site. Not only should we not link to sites which have products to sell, but this site does not meet reliable sources, and should not be added back to the article — either as a reference or as an External link. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:24, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Since the article is no longer at FAR but might go back to FAC, it might now be worth trying to sort out any problems, as FAC will be much tougher than FAR.
It might be best to ref these before putting them back in, since they mainly contain general claims (words like "many"), which should always be reffed clearly.
qp10qp 00:47, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
As a former featured article, I daresay that this article should have a photo of the band. Why was it pulled? Can somebody fix this? 154.20.157.6 10:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
"Links normally to be avoided" - What are the exceptions?
I still dont understand why New Romantic is repeatedly being removed from the list of genres. There may be a dispute whether New Romantic is a musical or just fashion movement or both, but in any case Duran Duran were definetly among its most important exponents. I dont understand why some people find the "New Romantic" label problematic? Its not an insult?! -- Dzole ( talk) 21:22, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
SORRY - NOT TRUE! I was a teenager in Milano, Italy, and me & my peers were all N R's. Until '83, that is. 'Xcuse the interruption. Max Ventura Argomax ( talk) 13:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
A problem is that the media dished out the label to any artiste/group who wore the fashions of that period (and continue to do so erroneously). Subject matter expert editors will remove an incorrect genre on the basis of factual accuracy. As far as Duran Duran are concerned I believe they were, as they referred to themselves as New Romantics in their lyrics and certainly adopted the movement for commercial purposes, but that is a personal opinion not a factual statement. A similar argument has taken place on Talk:The Human League who certainly weren't New Romantics. andi064 T . C 10:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Personally I love both groups. And in my opinion and many others Human League is New romantic even though they deny this.
AGAIN, SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION, BUT NO DICE. HUMAN LEAGUE WERE NOT N-R's, NOT IN THE LOOKS (the looks primarily defined the New Romantics, even more than the music) NOR IN SOUND. THEY WERE NEW WAVE, ELECTRO-WAVE TO BE PRECISE. Argomax ( talk) 13:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
However Duran Duran is definatly New romantic try to get some of there earlier pictures. They wore alot of make up and hair die and had New romantic fasion. Also like andi064 stated they called themselves New Romantics. But I can see where people might not think that they arent. Some of there videos have shown them witout make up as well as some pictures for the exception of Nick Rhodes. And one band member wearing make up and having New romantic fashion often believes that the whole band isn't New Romantic. Which is the case with Culture club in which I heard plenty of arguements debating if there New Romantic or not. Also the lack of make up and New romantic fashion is also with Depeche mode. I recently saw pictures of Depeche Mode when they were at first New romantics. David Gahan and the others wearing make up and I was shocked because i thought they weren't New romantics but only associated with the movement only because they had I think there first gigs there. I read many profiles of Depeche mode where it saids they were a at first New romantic and then t hey fled the scene. And its been stated by David that they weren't New Romantics "Call us anything you want just not New Romantic" and "they all look the same" . Duran Duran has admitted being New romantic but they have stated that "We are not trying to move away from it. But we are not tied to it like Spandau obviously are" Plus there are known to be the most successful New romantic band. Yamchaken ( talk) 23:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
There's been changes in the description of the band's genres; each time someone adds house and synthpop, another person removes it, then another person adds house and synthpop once again and it is later removed yet again... it's happening constantly. I am sure of the house/synthpop influence in most songs of Big Thing and other songs in other DD albums, but is it possible for us think of Duran Duran as a "house/synthpop" group?; if people can't get into terms with those two genres being related to the band then maybe adding them to the list of music styles of DD might not be necessary after all. Kerrisene:: talk 23:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
House maybe since Big Thing is credited as a House album. So that might pass. But Synth pop definatly. Its been noted that Duran Duran made Synth pop more danceable then it previously was and other bands actually followed there lead. Listen to HUman League, Depeche mode and Gary Numan before Duran Durans self title album came out. The music was very menacing. Then listen to them after Duran Durans self title debut. There synth pop becomes alot more danceable. And alot of music sites site them as Synth pop as well as New Romantic. Anyways I've said this also on the HUman Leagues discussion page. If you want to find out a more accurate on the music style of Duran Duran besides the obvious New Romantic and New wave go to amgmusic.com since people could change and put whatever they want into Wikipedia. I;ve seen Duran Duran being listed as Techno on here once which isn't completly off track cause there music is electric but there not Techno. House might be a closer labelling. Yamchaken ( talk) 23:38, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Human league and Depeche Mode hardly, because they both came out after or same time as Durans, but I second that opinion because Gary Numan is a very good example, so are Ultravox (but they had a frontman change during 1979/80) and others. nevertheless, I'd be cautious in tagging Durans as synthpop: thay might have had some influence ON it, because of their immediate commercial success, but they were'nt very strong on the electronic side, and they were a full scale band with guitars, bass, drumset. Gary Numan and Depeches are more likely to be the epitome of Synthpop. Argomax ( talk) 14:03, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes the band were Synth pop for sure. The band has said themselves that they are synth pop as well as New Romantic. The House part I dunno about but Synth pop no doubt. Its also said that they are Synth pop in the cd Maximum Duran Duran where it is said they were both Synth pop and Synth Rock. So I think its pretty accurate. On the house and techno thing I dont know about but they are appricated by the House and Techno crowd. lol There even on Dance Dance Revolution. 6 synth pop ( talk) 09:26, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
See above, pal. If your synth percentage is about 1/5 of your band, then you're as synthpop as much as Chic or, say, Queen. Heck, Queen even had TWO keyboard players onstage in 1983! So they must have been REALLY synthpop! :-) Argomax ( talk) 14:07, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Pllease include the new on Skin Divers.
Duran Duran is eyeing collaborations with two of the hottest young names in British music, the Arctic Monkeys and Mark Ronson. As details roll out for the European leg of the band's Red Carpet Massacre tour, word is out that Duran Duran will join forces with Amy Winehouse producer Ronson this summer on a music project.
Although details are vague, a spokesperson for Duran Duran says both parties are "definitely discussing working on some material together" and a "possible live collaboration."
Meanwhile, Arctic Monkeys drummer Matt Helders has contributed a remix of "Skin Divers," the second track lifted from "Red Carpet Massacre." Helders and Monkeys frontman Alex Turner are rumored to have supplied sampled vocals to the reworked track. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.163.82.186 ( talk) 22:23, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
I hardly think that Justin Timberlake and Timbaland should be listed as "associated acts"...of all people. That's absurd. Why not list Gilmour, or Andy Hamilton or Fonzi Thornton, for that matter?? I mean...jeezz louise...the timberlake and timbaland thing was a disaster...and I dont just mean commercially. I think most people would agree with that. RCM is easily the worst DD album ever and I think that is, in no small part, thanks to timba and timber.
I don't think Timbaland was to blame, he's worked with high profile rock acts like Linkin Park, Chris Cornell and Fall Out Boy previously. Justin Timberlake was to blame. The whole "urban" sound didn't work for DD. Hope the next album is a real rock n' roll fest!
Duran Duran have sold more than 70 million records (albums and singles), not 100 million! A few websites talk about this matter, such as for example ukmix.org. Killer4979 ( talk) 20:24, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
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I'm sorry, could anybody with a rucksack of patience clean up and reorganize even this discussion page, besides the voice itself? the are a lof of repetitions, jumps from aft to starboard, and timeline messups.
I believe that by now the band should be tagged as an English Pop band, period. They certainly aren't any genre in particular; New Romantic music is 26 years gone, so is New Wave; their Funk phase is also defunct; their Rock antics have never been to strong to begin with; and after all, Pop is what all commercially succesful bands make at some point in their career, and also that's what they usually end their career with. Tagging Durans with any specific styòle makes no sense whatsoever. I did not change the article, anyhow, because the page is currently protected. 94.163.117.59 ( talk) 14:04, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Eh? New Wave is not gone, it's still around (Kaiser Chiefs, Franz Ferdinand etc) and as for their rock antics never being strong, take a listen to their later material (guitar solos, heavy rhythm guitars and heavy drums). And New Wave is a genre of rock music anyway, so the word "rock" sums them up nicely. And they've influenced a lot of rock and metal bands (Deftones and Korn just to name a few). GNRDemocrazy ( talk) 18:46, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
All of the other paragraphs that talk about the various albums released by the Durans editorialize about their commercial reception except for RCM. I think it may be time to engage in a little editorialization. RCM has sold fewer copies than even Liberty:
Well I think it actually sold more than Liberty cause the sales moved up to 80,000 copies. And the album is still considered a hit. Also Falling down seems to be a hit as well in U.S. Both the album and the single did better in the U.S. than in U.K. In Italy however the album did very well as well as Falling down. Hopefully Nite runner will do better. Yamchaken ( talk) 05:18, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
well yah thats world wide. 800,000 was only in america not counting any other countrys, so it sold more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.87.6.102 ( talk) 06:34, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Dont get me wrong i love the album. But I had a feeling Duran Duran teamming up withe Justin Timberlake was going to be a bad idea. Then I had another bad feeling when Andy Taylor left the band again. I liked the album but Timberlands influene is all over the album. 6 synth pop ( talk) 11:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Roger Taylor is "wiki-linked" to the entry for the "other" Roger Taylor, who is the drummer for Queen. It should be noted that these are two different individuals. Is there a way to correct this?
Also, the text states: "Warren Cuccurullo stepped in as a guitarist in 1986, and with Le Bon, Rhodes, and Nick and John Taylor produced the hit song Notorious, which went to number 2 in the USA." There is no *Nick Taylor.* Should it have been Andy Taylor? Roger Taylor?
I've read your stuff and enjoyed reading. I didn't see factual errors, you may want to check participation at the Live Aid concert: are you sure they didn't attend the London part of the concert? You may be right though.
I think this section is so vague and far-fetched that isn't even funny. Anybody could be influenced by anybody else, but if their production doesn't CLEARLY reflect this (as is the case, for instance, of artist Mika mimicking Freddie Mercury), then it's just a waste of cyberspace. Notorious BIG influenced by Durans? WHOOA! Argomax ( talk) 14:25, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
(Moving this from the article until a better way can be found to integrate it...I don't think it would survive VFD as an article on its own.)
These musicians have stated in articles and interviews that they admire and have been inspired by Duran Duran's music:
Thanks to everyone who voted to make this a featured article! It's a nice reward for hard work by a lot of people. Catherine\ talk 17:48, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
What's up with the name Duran Duran? Where did it come from?
Durant-Durand was in J.C. Forest Barbarella comics an obvious reference to "Dupont et Dupond" aka the Thompson twins. Any connection with the band of the same era ? 62.212.105.216 17:03, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
There is a discrepancy in that the article gives the name as "Duran-Duran" whereas the Barbarella article spells it as Durand Durand. Which is correct? (IMDB says the latter) - Rob, 16:39, 21 Apr 2005 (GMT)
I've heard that during the View to a Kill video shoot the band members were barely talking to one another - could be urban myth, but I think the video never shows more that one of them on screen at once. Great work on the article, keep it up. Paul M
RE: "Andy was unhappy with the band's direction and ready to launch a solo career". Andy Taylor did do one solo record called Thunder. Should this be mentioned in the main article?
Anon user, please stop inserting the link for the Duran Duran 'DURANMANIA' Website at cjb.net. Discussion forums are not considered useful links for band sites. Even if forum sites were to be included, there are far more notable and heavily trafficked DD message boards; the cjb board has less than 400 posts total. I appreciate the desire to advertise your sites (including the one you continue to post at the Kajagoogoo article) but Wikipedia is not the venue for advertising of websites.
Please see the policies outlined at Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, Wikipedia:External links, and the Wikipedia:FAQ - external links.
You have added this link eleven times since it was first removed on November 28, 2004, and moved it above some of the official band sites in the list when I made attempts to compromise by classifying it under "fansites" or at the bottom of the list. It will continue to be removed. Please do not add it again. — Catherine\ talk 09:08, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I created a navigational template for the
Dream Theater article, {{
Dream Theater}}, that might be of use to the Duran Duran article (and its related pages). The
Iron Maiden and
Rush articles use the same template style, and it seems to work well for bands with many members and releases. Someone with enough knowledge to complete it for Duran Duran should consider doing so, it is very useful.
plattopus
talk 02:28, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
...and yet nobody spotted the mistake on the introduction which I have just edited. Andy Taylor, not John, plays bass. Such is this the case that he is an excellent bassist, an unsung hero at that. Celtmist 15-10-05
I've changed the New Romantic link in the lead section back to the broader New Wave music; the term "New Romantic" was a subgenre of New Wave, was almost never used outside the UK, and was only applied to the band for a year or so at the very beginning of their career. The New Romantic link is included in the "origins" section, as it should be, but I don't think it belongs in the lead section, as it doesn't sum up their place (such as it is) in music history as well. New Wave encompasses many more of their contemporaries and competitors. While they're certainly on the list at New Romantic, they've also been on our List of New Wave bands and artists since 2002 (well before my first edit here). Hope that explains my reasoning. Thanks, — Catherine\ talk 03:40, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
I second the latter opinion. Not only New Romantic was a genre in its own right running ALONGSIDE New Wave (and not within it), but it is generally considered more distinguishable, even almost 30 years away. Also, it should be by now common knowledge that the main inspirational force behind the early Durans (until 1982 at least) was the band Japan, which dissolved in late 1982, and Japan are considered to be the godfathers of New Romanticism (although Japan themselves never aknowledged the association). We can obvously say that many NR bands, such as Ultravox (second phase of them, when managed by Midge Ure and not John Foxx anymore), Spandau Ballet, and others, sometimes were also credited as New Wave acts, but only in the broader use of the term. Let's say this: New Romantic stand to New Wave like Heavy Metal stands to Rock. Close neighbors, sometimes in the same room, but each one sleeping in its own bed.
Max ventura, Italy.
Argomax (
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13:01, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
I would support placing them in a gay icons category. I know they do have a very large gay following, and even in the film American Pie 2 they implied that a night club was gay by playing "A View to a Kill"-- 68.126.145.15 19:27, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
A Google search for "duran duran" and "gay icon" turned up only a few links that explicitly make the connection:
Some interesting quotes though: Simon Le Bon: "I suppose we have adopted a certain flamboyance which, for some reason, has always been associated with gay people, and not everybody finds that easy to accept. But again this is just an example of people's attempts to separate everything into categories, to say this is gay but that isn't. It seems very silly to me because, after all, gay people are I exactly the same as everybody else in everything but their sexual habits. The people who insist on this sort of separation must have very closed minds." [18]
Nick Rhodes: “We’ve always had a strong gay following, which is great. It’s not something we ever thought of consciously. Because I just want anyone to get into the band, I’ve never differentiated at all. I think a certain amount of androgyny has always been a part of us. We sort of came out of the things we grew up with: glam-rock, which was a major influence, and then disco and punk rock somewhere along the way. We always had a very strong bond with the gay audience.” The Weekly News, Florida, July 13 2000
So not enough to go on in a cursory Googling, but more information is welcome if anyone would like to provide it. — Catherine\ talk 23:24, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Edited this section today to make it more accurate (they fired him in person and we announced it before they did, against their wishes) and wrap up his time in the band with the Japan dates. -- Cucfan
Electronic is not an accurate description of this bands music, Nick Rhodes may have been one of the main forces behind Duran Duran & he is without a doubt an electronic music wizard, most of Duran Durans music has equal measures of bass, lead guitar & keyboards. I have removed the "electronic" tag. ( Khanada 12:04, 8 March 2006 (UTC))
To be fair, the amount of "electronics" applied to Duran's music was higher at their earlier stages than after 1982, when the band had a much more mixed-up sound build-up. Even so, even by 1980, they weren't particularly proficient nor pioneering in their use of synths and sequencers. Artist like Gary Numan, Ultravox, Visage, and many, many more had already made riddles in the music charts with seriously synth-driven singles and albums, sometimes with barely a real drumset in sight. Duran's music should properly be tagged broadly as "pop", and specifically "New Romantic" for the first part of their carees, "funk" for the 1984/1988 part, and "I really don't know what" for the later years. :-) Max Ventura, Italy
Argomax (
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13:14, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
" Rio (Duran Duran single)" is quite poorly written with no additional info on the single except that on synth use. " The Wild Boys" - you don't have it. " My Own Way", just the infobox and absolutely no info, not even from what album is the single from. Please fill in the missing data, otherwise you don't need that article.
I might have made a few mistakes too but... Hey I'm not responsible for this I don't listen to them, I just converted the infoboxes. And this is a featured article, while their best singles are so lamely described???? This is not vandalism, it is critical commentary on the content.
I have used album infoboxes but if you wan't the infobox containing from what album is it just add "from Album = " after the artist column (row actually, you know what i mean). Example is " Too Much Information" if you even care to do such an update but you can just mention in the text This single is taken from the album.... I don't know from what albums they come, nor have time to search.
If you already have a table for singles then why are they listed before with the same info and with links, and they are not linked in the tables??
So that's it for now. I at least converted the infoboxes since nobody else cares about that! A little thanks on my talk page would be a sign that at least somebody cares? Death2 07:45, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Did anyone hear the rumour that the new album is called Gloss?
These look like they're due for a pruning... I doubt it's spamming but it's not looking too healthy. TheGrappler 20:24, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't the first line be "Duran Duran are a English (or british) New Wave band" instead of just "Duran Duran are a New Wave band".
In the infobox, for country it say Birmingham, England instead of just England.
I've searched through Wikipedia and can't find any information about songs that Duran Duran DID produce in 1978 which include Secret Oktober, Faster than light, Fame...etc.
I can remember those three songs, but not any of the others. Does anyone know what the other songs are, and the title of the album?
Jamie
...and then they started using remixes of the single or album tracks as bonus tracks, instead of unique recordings. Hope that helps! —
Catherine\
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16:00, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
i like the table of dates for 2006. and i'm glad that the rumour about Andy Taylor was taken down... do people agree that its not a place for rumours? keep up the good work..
Cleaned up some typoes & misspellings, moved the Nick Rhodes vocal comment to the Medazzaland paragraph from the Pop Trash paragraph, added Wes's type of cancer, removed the subjective & uncited Depeche Mode comparison for the Pop Trash album. --- Cucfan
Some of today's hottest pop stars are most definately taking cues from Duran Duran's blueprint for music video making. Just look at Snoop Dogg's video for "Signs" with Justin Timberlake. Though that particular video was shot on the Las Vegas Strip and not on an exotic beach, the formula that Duran Duran had used is most definately present; beautiful women, sharp dressed men and pleanty of bling. Gwen Stefani's videos for "What You Waiting For?", "Rich Girl" and "Cool" all have a sort of whimsical feel to them, much like Duran Duran's did in the '80s.
Seems pretty much like original research to me. Its not even written properly for an encyclopedia. I think it should be removed.
TommyStardust 17:22, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Obviously Power Station was more guitar driven than most Duran Duran material. However, there was still an emphasis on RnB/Funk style dance grooves. I mean they had the drummer from CHIC, how much more funky can you get. The article sounds like they could have been touring with RATT or Motley Crue. (ALV) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.225.143.253 ( talk) 22:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC).
Haw haw haw. Right. i second that.
Argomax (
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13:16, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
There is absolutely no need for this page to begin with the phrase
Duran Duran are an internationally famous band who have sold many millions of records. Duran Duran Duran are not. It is almost inconceivable that anyone would mistakenly visit the Duran Duran page looking for such a bunch of nonentities.
It seems to me that the clarification was inserted to advertise Duran Duran Duran to a wider audience, rather than to avoid any confusion. Therefore, it has been removed (twice now). Malcolm Starkey 21:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
There's a problem to link:
If you go to "Discography", you will enter on [19] Take That's page! User:Rbrandao 14:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Theres a line which stated that Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake both praised the band. Do we have a ref for this? Also, Spears was removed by an anon-IP. Might be vandalism... do we really need to put her back? :P
xCentaur |
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18:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Man, at some point in our life we all praised Duran Duran. Heck, they made millions od bucks and wooed millions of chicks. Praise them!
Max Ventura, Italy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Argomax ( talk • contribs) 13:40, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Is this the correct genre to list Duran Duran under? I am leaning towards 'disagree'. RetsRÖftsugua 09:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
hi, found something interesting... a new english band called The Klaxons cited Duran as one of their influences.... "Some things about making the record were more fun than others, but the sound was there from the beginning," Levine says. "U2, Peter Gabriel, the Cure, Duran Duran — their records were huge to me. They're icons, and you respect them not just musically but because of their careers", http://www.calendarlive.com/music/cl-wk-bands19apr19,0,7778974.story?coll=cl-music-features just thought you might wanna add it to the main article.
'Discussion forums are not considered useful links for band sites'
Why? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.194.44.250 ( talk) 14:56, 12 May 2007 (UTC).
I've removed the links to a commercial fan site. Not only should we not link to sites which have products to sell, but this site does not meet reliable sources, and should not be added back to the article — either as a reference or as an External link. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:24, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Since the article is no longer at FAR but might go back to FAC, it might now be worth trying to sort out any problems, as FAC will be much tougher than FAR.
It might be best to ref these before putting them back in, since they mainly contain general claims (words like "many"), which should always be reffed clearly.
qp10qp 00:47, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
As a former featured article, I daresay that this article should have a photo of the band. Why was it pulled? Can somebody fix this? 154.20.157.6 10:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
"Links normally to be avoided" - What are the exceptions?
I still dont understand why New Romantic is repeatedly being removed from the list of genres. There may be a dispute whether New Romantic is a musical or just fashion movement or both, but in any case Duran Duran were definetly among its most important exponents. I dont understand why some people find the "New Romantic" label problematic? Its not an insult?! -- Dzole ( talk) 21:22, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
SORRY - NOT TRUE! I was a teenager in Milano, Italy, and me & my peers were all N R's. Until '83, that is. 'Xcuse the interruption. Max Ventura Argomax ( talk) 13:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
A problem is that the media dished out the label to any artiste/group who wore the fashions of that period (and continue to do so erroneously). Subject matter expert editors will remove an incorrect genre on the basis of factual accuracy. As far as Duran Duran are concerned I believe they were, as they referred to themselves as New Romantics in their lyrics and certainly adopted the movement for commercial purposes, but that is a personal opinion not a factual statement. A similar argument has taken place on Talk:The Human League who certainly weren't New Romantics. andi064 T . C 10:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Personally I love both groups. And in my opinion and many others Human League is New romantic even though they deny this.
AGAIN, SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION, BUT NO DICE. HUMAN LEAGUE WERE NOT N-R's, NOT IN THE LOOKS (the looks primarily defined the New Romantics, even more than the music) NOR IN SOUND. THEY WERE NEW WAVE, ELECTRO-WAVE TO BE PRECISE. Argomax ( talk) 13:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
However Duran Duran is definatly New romantic try to get some of there earlier pictures. They wore alot of make up and hair die and had New romantic fasion. Also like andi064 stated they called themselves New Romantics. But I can see where people might not think that they arent. Some of there videos have shown them witout make up as well as some pictures for the exception of Nick Rhodes. And one band member wearing make up and having New romantic fashion often believes that the whole band isn't New Romantic. Which is the case with Culture club in which I heard plenty of arguements debating if there New Romantic or not. Also the lack of make up and New romantic fashion is also with Depeche mode. I recently saw pictures of Depeche Mode when they were at first New romantics. David Gahan and the others wearing make up and I was shocked because i thought they weren't New romantics but only associated with the movement only because they had I think there first gigs there. I read many profiles of Depeche mode where it saids they were a at first New romantic and then t hey fled the scene. And its been stated by David that they weren't New Romantics "Call us anything you want just not New Romantic" and "they all look the same" . Duran Duran has admitted being New romantic but they have stated that "We are not trying to move away from it. But we are not tied to it like Spandau obviously are" Plus there are known to be the most successful New romantic band. Yamchaken ( talk) 23:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
There's been changes in the description of the band's genres; each time someone adds house and synthpop, another person removes it, then another person adds house and synthpop once again and it is later removed yet again... it's happening constantly. I am sure of the house/synthpop influence in most songs of Big Thing and other songs in other DD albums, but is it possible for us think of Duran Duran as a "house/synthpop" group?; if people can't get into terms with those two genres being related to the band then maybe adding them to the list of music styles of DD might not be necessary after all. Kerrisene:: talk 23:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
House maybe since Big Thing is credited as a House album. So that might pass. But Synth pop definatly. Its been noted that Duran Duran made Synth pop more danceable then it previously was and other bands actually followed there lead. Listen to HUman League, Depeche mode and Gary Numan before Duran Durans self title album came out. The music was very menacing. Then listen to them after Duran Durans self title debut. There synth pop becomes alot more danceable. And alot of music sites site them as Synth pop as well as New Romantic. Anyways I've said this also on the HUman Leagues discussion page. If you want to find out a more accurate on the music style of Duran Duran besides the obvious New Romantic and New wave go to amgmusic.com since people could change and put whatever they want into Wikipedia. I;ve seen Duran Duran being listed as Techno on here once which isn't completly off track cause there music is electric but there not Techno. House might be a closer labelling. Yamchaken ( talk) 23:38, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Human league and Depeche Mode hardly, because they both came out after or same time as Durans, but I second that opinion because Gary Numan is a very good example, so are Ultravox (but they had a frontman change during 1979/80) and others. nevertheless, I'd be cautious in tagging Durans as synthpop: thay might have had some influence ON it, because of their immediate commercial success, but they were'nt very strong on the electronic side, and they were a full scale band with guitars, bass, drumset. Gary Numan and Depeches are more likely to be the epitome of Synthpop. Argomax ( talk) 14:03, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes the band were Synth pop for sure. The band has said themselves that they are synth pop as well as New Romantic. The House part I dunno about but Synth pop no doubt. Its also said that they are Synth pop in the cd Maximum Duran Duran where it is said they were both Synth pop and Synth Rock. So I think its pretty accurate. On the house and techno thing I dont know about but they are appricated by the House and Techno crowd. lol There even on Dance Dance Revolution. 6 synth pop ( talk) 09:26, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
See above, pal. If your synth percentage is about 1/5 of your band, then you're as synthpop as much as Chic or, say, Queen. Heck, Queen even had TWO keyboard players onstage in 1983! So they must have been REALLY synthpop! :-) Argomax ( talk) 14:07, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Pllease include the new on Skin Divers.
Duran Duran is eyeing collaborations with two of the hottest young names in British music, the Arctic Monkeys and Mark Ronson. As details roll out for the European leg of the band's Red Carpet Massacre tour, word is out that Duran Duran will join forces with Amy Winehouse producer Ronson this summer on a music project.
Although details are vague, a spokesperson for Duran Duran says both parties are "definitely discussing working on some material together" and a "possible live collaboration."
Meanwhile, Arctic Monkeys drummer Matt Helders has contributed a remix of "Skin Divers," the second track lifted from "Red Carpet Massacre." Helders and Monkeys frontman Alex Turner are rumored to have supplied sampled vocals to the reworked track. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.163.82.186 ( talk) 22:23, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
I hardly think that Justin Timberlake and Timbaland should be listed as "associated acts"...of all people. That's absurd. Why not list Gilmour, or Andy Hamilton or Fonzi Thornton, for that matter?? I mean...jeezz louise...the timberlake and timbaland thing was a disaster...and I dont just mean commercially. I think most people would agree with that. RCM is easily the worst DD album ever and I think that is, in no small part, thanks to timba and timber.
I don't think Timbaland was to blame, he's worked with high profile rock acts like Linkin Park, Chris Cornell and Fall Out Boy previously. Justin Timberlake was to blame. The whole "urban" sound didn't work for DD. Hope the next album is a real rock n' roll fest!
Duran Duran have sold more than 70 million records (albums and singles), not 100 million! A few websites talk about this matter, such as for example ukmix.org. Killer4979 ( talk) 20:24, 1 November 2008 (UTC)