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This story about the Cox family is appropriate for the page, but needs some kind of citation:
"The Cox family were one of the chief families of the town in the 17th and 18th centuries and did much to develop the linen industry. One of the family, Richard heard that a preacher allied to John Wesley was due to visit the town and decided to give him a ducking in the local lake. To practice he went out in a boat but fell into the water and was drowned. The event was commemerated by the following verse:- "'Tis there the lake is, Where the duck and the drake is, And 'tis there the crane can have his fine feed of frogs. When night come's round it, The spirits surround it, For in it was drownded Sir Richard Cox.""
Dppowell 00:39, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
I note what i believe are 2 errors in the article on Dunmanway. First, the young man killed with Canon Magner was not called Purcell but Crowley. Secondly, the unfortunate murdered protestants numbered not 22 but 3.
John Murphy (left Dunmanway in 1957)
I heard somewhere that a line of the verse is: "When night comes around, It's all changed ground "
Is this true? CahalanesDunmanway 15:18, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
I have taken this to the talk page of the user involved, who was removed the discussion as "aggressive nonsense". The republic of Ireland was not independent at the time. Traditional unionist ( talk) 22:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure why it's important to use that word, which (though I believe it to be technically accurate) is guaranteed to start an editing dispute wherever it's used on articles related to Anglo-Irish conflict. Regardless of whether they are described as "occuping," some readers of the passage will see the British of this period as occupiers, while others will see forces with the support of law struggling against an armed insurrection. Inserting it only flags the article as supporting an Irish nationalist viewpoint and creates a rallying point for the opposing POV. Readers can examine the historical record and make up their own minds. It's not the role of WP to steer them in one direction or another. Dppowell ( talk) 23:26, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Sarah777 ( talk) 00:07, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Nobody has yet breached 3RR. Sarah will be one edit away from doing so if she restores the edit in question. Please don't, Sarah. Dppowell ( talk) 00:12, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
The basic problem is that in the eyes of the Irish forces, the British were an occupying army in the unilaterally declared Republic. Simply because Britain and various other countries didn't recognise that (although Russia did) isn't that relevant, see for example 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence. It's going to make this article rather convoluted if we include the full back story about the whole shenanigans, but I think Irish War of Independence is a better name in this article than Anglo-Irish War. Thoughts? One Night In Hackney 303 01:01, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Done. Are we set, then? (Please say yes?) Dppowell ( talk) 01:26, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
That was never contentious in the first place, so I'm happy. Traditional unionist ( talk) 10:59, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Just wondering, what Irish name for the town should be used? The page currently says it's Dún Mánmhaí. But locals have always used Dúnmaonmhuí. That's the spelling we were taught in school, and some teachers went so far as to say to disregard the Dún Mánmhaí spelling. Dún Mánmhaí may be on signposts and the post office in the town etc., but just wondering does anyone know what's WP's policy on placenames (i.e. official vs. in actual use)? Dennisc24 ( talk) 14:08, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
OK, I've found a citation for the Dúnmaonmhuí spelling in a book by the Dunmanway Historical Society. But, just wondering now should Dún Mánmhaí be removed or should it stay? Dennisc24 ( talk) 19:22, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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This story about the Cox family is appropriate for the page, but needs some kind of citation:
"The Cox family were one of the chief families of the town in the 17th and 18th centuries and did much to develop the linen industry. One of the family, Richard heard that a preacher allied to John Wesley was due to visit the town and decided to give him a ducking in the local lake. To practice he went out in a boat but fell into the water and was drowned. The event was commemerated by the following verse:- "'Tis there the lake is, Where the duck and the drake is, And 'tis there the crane can have his fine feed of frogs. When night come's round it, The spirits surround it, For in it was drownded Sir Richard Cox.""
Dppowell 00:39, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
I note what i believe are 2 errors in the article on Dunmanway. First, the young man killed with Canon Magner was not called Purcell but Crowley. Secondly, the unfortunate murdered protestants numbered not 22 but 3.
John Murphy (left Dunmanway in 1957)
I heard somewhere that a line of the verse is: "When night comes around, It's all changed ground "
Is this true? CahalanesDunmanway 15:18, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
I have taken this to the talk page of the user involved, who was removed the discussion as "aggressive nonsense". The republic of Ireland was not independent at the time. Traditional unionist ( talk) 22:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure why it's important to use that word, which (though I believe it to be technically accurate) is guaranteed to start an editing dispute wherever it's used on articles related to Anglo-Irish conflict. Regardless of whether they are described as "occuping," some readers of the passage will see the British of this period as occupiers, while others will see forces with the support of law struggling against an armed insurrection. Inserting it only flags the article as supporting an Irish nationalist viewpoint and creates a rallying point for the opposing POV. Readers can examine the historical record and make up their own minds. It's not the role of WP to steer them in one direction or another. Dppowell ( talk) 23:26, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Sarah777 ( talk) 00:07, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Nobody has yet breached 3RR. Sarah will be one edit away from doing so if she restores the edit in question. Please don't, Sarah. Dppowell ( talk) 00:12, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
The basic problem is that in the eyes of the Irish forces, the British were an occupying army in the unilaterally declared Republic. Simply because Britain and various other countries didn't recognise that (although Russia did) isn't that relevant, see for example 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence. It's going to make this article rather convoluted if we include the full back story about the whole shenanigans, but I think Irish War of Independence is a better name in this article than Anglo-Irish War. Thoughts? One Night In Hackney 303 01:01, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Done. Are we set, then? (Please say yes?) Dppowell ( talk) 01:26, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
That was never contentious in the first place, so I'm happy. Traditional unionist ( talk) 10:59, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Just wondering, what Irish name for the town should be used? The page currently says it's Dún Mánmhaí. But locals have always used Dúnmaonmhuí. That's the spelling we were taught in school, and some teachers went so far as to say to disregard the Dún Mánmhaí spelling. Dún Mánmhaí may be on signposts and the post office in the town etc., but just wondering does anyone know what's WP's policy on placenames (i.e. official vs. in actual use)? Dennisc24 ( talk) 14:08, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
OK, I've found a citation for the Dúnmaonmhuí spelling in a book by the Dunmanway Historical Society. But, just wondering now should Dún Mánmhaí be removed or should it stay? Dennisc24 ( talk) 19:22, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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