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Considering that just about every castle has a dungeon, and there are thousands of castles, do we need to start a section of examples? All it does is encourage editors to add their own examples and it creates a lengthy list of no value or structure or meaning. In fact Wikipedia is about notable things, if you want to list examples there needs to be a reason why they are notable enough to be given preference over other examples. If you want a complete list, create a new article List of dungeons, similar to List of castles. -- Stbalbach 00:20, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Regarding this picture:
Why is this picture "inaccurate"?
Regarding this sentence:
Why is this removed? Thanks. -- Stbalbach 15:56, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
I see, I had not realized donjon had been re-directed to a different article. -- Stbalbach 14:46, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
If anyone's interested, I've proposed a new wikiproject for the creation of articles regarding specific prisons here. -- Cdogsimmons ( talk) 01:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I propose merging oubliette into this article. Any discussion at Talk:Oubliette#Merge into Dungeon please. Cyclopaedic ( talk) 16:53, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Only problem I have with this merge is now I have very little idea what an Oubliette actually is yes it is a dungeon cell but with no description except for a sentence in the beginning is very much lacking information. Now if you search for Oubliette you get sent here with very little information on what exactly it is specifically. If you are going to merge an article at least give some more information about it in the article you merged to. Other then a one sentence brief description in the opening paragraph that is tacked on more like an after thought their is no information on it. 67.142.164.25 ( talk) 04:53, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Is there any difference between a bottle dungeon and an oubliette? Is the term bottle dungeon just the English form of the French term? (An example bottle dungeon can be found at St Andrews Castle, and is mentioned very briefly in that article.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.111.221 ( talk) 20:51, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
An oubliette and a dungeon are very different things. This article is wrong. 79.138.227.42 ( talk) 11:48, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Should there be more references to dungeons in gaming? Dungeons play a significant role in many games, and also have a slightly different meaning (dungeons are full of enemies, not prisoners). Or perhaps a separate page about dungeons in gaming. -- 173.3.16.92 ( talk) 03:00, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
I intend to suggest some updates to the article, but in the meantime would anyone mind if a further reading section was added linking to a paper I wrote which appeared in the Castle Studies Group Journal? It is creatively titled "Castles as prisons". The paper is available through academia.edu. Richard Nevell ( talk) 22:31, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
The diagram of the oubliette is not quite clear. Could someone add annotations indicating where the space for the prisoner is, where the entrance is, etc.? -- Roland ( talk) 03:06, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
The merge from 2009 seems awkward today. There are sentences about dungeons and sentences about oubliettes, and the two seem rather separate. It seems to me that these two articles should be separated. Korossyl ( talk) 16:14, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
In Warwick castle, for instance, there is a dungeon AND an oubliette. They are different things. The oubliette is a small, more or less coffin sized space, in the floor of the dungeon. It WAS used for isolating prisoners and, presumably, keeping them confined within. The idea that it was used for storage is nonsensical; it was too small for storage and, being set in the floor of the dungeon, anything stored within that small space would have been decimated by rats within a matter of house.
Someone, somewhere, has got this article wrong. And it needs amending.
79.138.227.42 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:47, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Much or the article assumes that dungeons are a UK phenomenon. I came here looking for info after reading about dungeons in the Book of Isaiah! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Happinessbird ( talk • contribs) 15:18, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
what is the most famous prisoner in a dungeon? VirozPlay ( talk) 07:57, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
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Considering that just about every castle has a dungeon, and there are thousands of castles, do we need to start a section of examples? All it does is encourage editors to add their own examples and it creates a lengthy list of no value or structure or meaning. In fact Wikipedia is about notable things, if you want to list examples there needs to be a reason why they are notable enough to be given preference over other examples. If you want a complete list, create a new article List of dungeons, similar to List of castles. -- Stbalbach 00:20, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Regarding this picture:
Why is this picture "inaccurate"?
Regarding this sentence:
Why is this removed? Thanks. -- Stbalbach 15:56, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
I see, I had not realized donjon had been re-directed to a different article. -- Stbalbach 14:46, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
If anyone's interested, I've proposed a new wikiproject for the creation of articles regarding specific prisons here. -- Cdogsimmons ( talk) 01:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I propose merging oubliette into this article. Any discussion at Talk:Oubliette#Merge into Dungeon please. Cyclopaedic ( talk) 16:53, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Only problem I have with this merge is now I have very little idea what an Oubliette actually is yes it is a dungeon cell but with no description except for a sentence in the beginning is very much lacking information. Now if you search for Oubliette you get sent here with very little information on what exactly it is specifically. If you are going to merge an article at least give some more information about it in the article you merged to. Other then a one sentence brief description in the opening paragraph that is tacked on more like an after thought their is no information on it. 67.142.164.25 ( talk) 04:53, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Is there any difference between a bottle dungeon and an oubliette? Is the term bottle dungeon just the English form of the French term? (An example bottle dungeon can be found at St Andrews Castle, and is mentioned very briefly in that article.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.111.221 ( talk) 20:51, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
An oubliette and a dungeon are very different things. This article is wrong. 79.138.227.42 ( talk) 11:48, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Should there be more references to dungeons in gaming? Dungeons play a significant role in many games, and also have a slightly different meaning (dungeons are full of enemies, not prisoners). Or perhaps a separate page about dungeons in gaming. -- 173.3.16.92 ( talk) 03:00, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
I intend to suggest some updates to the article, but in the meantime would anyone mind if a further reading section was added linking to a paper I wrote which appeared in the Castle Studies Group Journal? It is creatively titled "Castles as prisons". The paper is available through academia.edu. Richard Nevell ( talk) 22:31, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
The diagram of the oubliette is not quite clear. Could someone add annotations indicating where the space for the prisoner is, where the entrance is, etc.? -- Roland ( talk) 03:06, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
The merge from 2009 seems awkward today. There are sentences about dungeons and sentences about oubliettes, and the two seem rather separate. It seems to me that these two articles should be separated. Korossyl ( talk) 16:14, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
In Warwick castle, for instance, there is a dungeon AND an oubliette. They are different things. The oubliette is a small, more or less coffin sized space, in the floor of the dungeon. It WAS used for isolating prisoners and, presumably, keeping them confined within. The idea that it was used for storage is nonsensical; it was too small for storage and, being set in the floor of the dungeon, anything stored within that small space would have been decimated by rats within a matter of house.
Someone, somewhere, has got this article wrong. And it needs amending.
79.138.227.42 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:47, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Much or the article assumes that dungeons are a UK phenomenon. I came here looking for info after reading about dungeons in the Book of Isaiah! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Happinessbird ( talk • contribs) 15:18, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
what is the most famous prisoner in a dungeon? VirozPlay ( talk) 07:57, 8 November 2023 (UTC)