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I would like to know why the category Assyria is allowed while category Kurdistan is being removed? Is there exact boundaries for Assyria? As far as I remember that's the main reason given for removing the Kurdistan category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vekoler ( talk • contribs) 22:53, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
I read from a Swedish women rights and organizations worker who travelled to dahuk that the city was populated mostly by Assyrians before the 1960's. I was wondering if anyone could verify this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.235.202.186 ( talk) 17:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved to Dohuk, Iraq per discussion. - GTBacchus( talk) 22:23, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Duhok →
Dahuk – per
WP:COMMONNAME
GeoNames Search is not almighty. Because Dahūk, Dūhak are not common name in
English sources. But it's helpful.
According to GeoNames Search:
as first-order administrative division; this result is useful for Dahuk Governorate:
Dahūk, Muḩāfaz̧at (Approved), Dahūk (Short), Muḩāfaz̧at (Generic) محافظة دهوك (Native Script), دهوك (Short), محافظة (Generic), Dahūk (Variant), Dahūk, Liwā’ (Variant), Dehok, Province of (Variant), Dhok, Muhafadha (Variant), Duhok Governorate (Variant), Duhok Province (Variant), Duhuk (Variant)
as populated place:
Dihūk (Approved), دهوك (Native Script), Dahūk (Variant), Dūhak (Variant), Duhok (Variant), Duhok (Variant), دوهۆك (Variant Native Script)
as seat of a first-order administrative division:
Dahūk (Approved), دهوك (Native Script), Dihok (Variant), Dihōk (Variant), Dohuk (Variant), Dûhok (Variant), Duhok (Variant), Duhuk (Variant), دَهُکْ (Variant Native Script), دهۆك (Variant Native Script), دووهۆک (Variant Native Script)
-- Takabeg ( talk) 08:44, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Merci Rafy. But we must compare alternative names with the same condition. We don't have to compare 3,660 with others. Even Google books indicated "3,660 results", we cannot investigated all of them. Most of them are "empty". We have to use 390. Thank you. Takabeg ( talk) 05:50, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Jenks24 ( talk) 12:48, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Dohuk →
Duhok – This move is potentially controversial because it is a request to move the page back to its former name. The record of the former move appears to be based on unanalysed Google tests.
While it is clear that the spelling "Dohuk" has had widespread use. The current governorate ( http://www.duhokgov.org/) and university ( http://www.uod.ac/) both use the spelling "Duhok". I believe that those two examples should carry weight.
The problem with the numerous spellings of the name is partly from the difficulty of pinning down the Arabic دهوك, for which the most accurate transliteration is most probably Dahūk. That is "most probably" because the value of the first, short vowel is not written in Arabic. However, in North Mesopotamian Arabic the vowel ū is often rendered as ō (as at the end of " Zakho", the second syllable of " Alqosh", and somewhat similarly in the first syllable of " Mosul"). Many short vowels in the local dialect are reduced to schwas, and this is the case in Arabic pronunciation of the first syllable of the city in question. A schwa could be written in many ways, but it is often rendered with a u (as in the second syllable of "Mosul"). Thus, I would suggest that the spelling that best represents the local Arabic pronunciation is "Duhok".
The Kurdish spelling (seeing as Kurdish is the main language in the city) is دهۆک, which is transliterated as Dihok. In Kurdish i is the most fleeting of the vowels, and it is left unwritten in Sorani script. The Kurdish spelling "Dihok" is not often used in the medium of English, but it does support the understanding of the two vowels as schwa and "o". Although nowhere near as important, it might be worth pointing out that the usual Turkish spelling is "Duhok".
I believe that the spelling preferred by the governorate and local university, alongside the local Arabic, Kurdish and Turkish pronunciation point to "Duhok" being the preferred spelling. Relisted. Jenks24 ( talk) 07:18, 8 July 2014 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 ( talk) 14:10, 29 June 2014 (UTC) Gareth Hughes ( talk) 21:26, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Dont make this page to a Assyrian propaganda site. How can we say that Dohuk was just an assyrian city and ignore its Kurdish history, the history about the Kurdish Bahdinan principalitie etc. I corrected it.
http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/bahdinan-kurdish-region-river-dialect-group-and-amirate -- Alan Genco ( talk) 18:07, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) -- Calidum 04:41, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Dohuk → Duhok – The first move has not been intensively discussed. Per WP:COMMONNAME "Duhok" is the correct spelling. Furthermore the term is used by different official bodies, such as the University of Duhok or the Kurdistan Regional Government. Moplayer ( talk) 16:27, 19 February 2015 (UTC) -- Moplayer ( talk) 16:27, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
-- Moplayer ( talk) 20:28, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
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I would like to know why the category Assyria is allowed while category Kurdistan is being removed? Is there exact boundaries for Assyria? As far as I remember that's the main reason given for removing the Kurdistan category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vekoler ( talk • contribs) 22:53, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
I read from a Swedish women rights and organizations worker who travelled to dahuk that the city was populated mostly by Assyrians before the 1960's. I was wondering if anyone could verify this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.235.202.186 ( talk) 17:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved to Dohuk, Iraq per discussion. - GTBacchus( talk) 22:23, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Duhok →
Dahuk – per
WP:COMMONNAME
GeoNames Search is not almighty. Because Dahūk, Dūhak are not common name in
English sources. But it's helpful.
According to GeoNames Search:
as first-order administrative division; this result is useful for Dahuk Governorate:
Dahūk, Muḩāfaz̧at (Approved), Dahūk (Short), Muḩāfaz̧at (Generic) محافظة دهوك (Native Script), دهوك (Short), محافظة (Generic), Dahūk (Variant), Dahūk, Liwā’ (Variant), Dehok, Province of (Variant), Dhok, Muhafadha (Variant), Duhok Governorate (Variant), Duhok Province (Variant), Duhuk (Variant)
as populated place:
Dihūk (Approved), دهوك (Native Script), Dahūk (Variant), Dūhak (Variant), Duhok (Variant), Duhok (Variant), دوهۆك (Variant Native Script)
as seat of a first-order administrative division:
Dahūk (Approved), دهوك (Native Script), Dihok (Variant), Dihōk (Variant), Dohuk (Variant), Dûhok (Variant), Duhok (Variant), Duhuk (Variant), دَهُکْ (Variant Native Script), دهۆك (Variant Native Script), دووهۆک (Variant Native Script)
-- Takabeg ( talk) 08:44, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Merci Rafy. But we must compare alternative names with the same condition. We don't have to compare 3,660 with others. Even Google books indicated "3,660 results", we cannot investigated all of them. Most of them are "empty". We have to use 390. Thank you. Takabeg ( talk) 05:50, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Jenks24 ( talk) 12:48, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Dohuk →
Duhok – This move is potentially controversial because it is a request to move the page back to its former name. The record of the former move appears to be based on unanalysed Google tests.
While it is clear that the spelling "Dohuk" has had widespread use. The current governorate ( http://www.duhokgov.org/) and university ( http://www.uod.ac/) both use the spelling "Duhok". I believe that those two examples should carry weight.
The problem with the numerous spellings of the name is partly from the difficulty of pinning down the Arabic دهوك, for which the most accurate transliteration is most probably Dahūk. That is "most probably" because the value of the first, short vowel is not written in Arabic. However, in North Mesopotamian Arabic the vowel ū is often rendered as ō (as at the end of " Zakho", the second syllable of " Alqosh", and somewhat similarly in the first syllable of " Mosul"). Many short vowels in the local dialect are reduced to schwas, and this is the case in Arabic pronunciation of the first syllable of the city in question. A schwa could be written in many ways, but it is often rendered with a u (as in the second syllable of "Mosul"). Thus, I would suggest that the spelling that best represents the local Arabic pronunciation is "Duhok".
The Kurdish spelling (seeing as Kurdish is the main language in the city) is دهۆک, which is transliterated as Dihok. In Kurdish i is the most fleeting of the vowels, and it is left unwritten in Sorani script. The Kurdish spelling "Dihok" is not often used in the medium of English, but it does support the understanding of the two vowels as schwa and "o". Although nowhere near as important, it might be worth pointing out that the usual Turkish spelling is "Duhok".
I believe that the spelling preferred by the governorate and local university, alongside the local Arabic, Kurdish and Turkish pronunciation point to "Duhok" being the preferred spelling. Relisted. Jenks24 ( talk) 07:18, 8 July 2014 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 ( talk) 14:10, 29 June 2014 (UTC) Gareth Hughes ( talk) 21:26, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Dont make this page to a Assyrian propaganda site. How can we say that Dohuk was just an assyrian city and ignore its Kurdish history, the history about the Kurdish Bahdinan principalitie etc. I corrected it.
http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/bahdinan-kurdish-region-river-dialect-group-and-amirate -- Alan Genco ( talk) 18:07, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) -- Calidum 04:41, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Dohuk → Duhok – The first move has not been intensively discussed. Per WP:COMMONNAME "Duhok" is the correct spelling. Furthermore the term is used by different official bodies, such as the University of Duhok or the Kurdistan Regional Government. Moplayer ( talk) 16:27, 19 February 2015 (UTC) -- Moplayer ( talk) 16:27, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
-- Moplayer ( talk) 20:28, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
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