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it also appears in a episode of Cowboy Bebop, can't remember which one... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ceredir ( talk • contribs) 06:51, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
The image should be replaced with a photograph or a realistic 3D render. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.120.103.47 ( talk) 04:03, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Nice article. It could use some mention of who invented it and especially when. -- Karuna8 03:21, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
No, it was not. Sullivan was NOT the first to create the drinking bird. It originated in China but was never commercialized. It was PATENTED by Sullivan, this you are correct but NOT invented. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.101.126.27 ( talk) 10:37, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
I took out a sentence "The Generation II Pokémon Porygon2's design and movements seems to be based on the drinking bird." The target article said it didn't appear in an episode, and after looking up some images and a video I still don't see the resemblance.
I'm thinking the cultural references in general should go in chronological order. Wnt ( talk) 02:07, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
I ended up stripping out the following: "In an episode from The Wild Thornberrys, Kip and Neil attempt to sell red drinking birds at a foreign market for money, but when Donnie shows up at their stall they abandon the scheme and instead attempt to use Donnie instead. Later when they take Donnie to perform as "the wild boy" at a theater, the curtain opens and reveals Donnie holding one of the drinking birds, (possibly to show how gentle he is), but when Kip and Neil show Donnie chocolate from backstage, Donnie begins to act wild (hence why Kip and Neil gave him the stage name "wild boy") and throws the bird away." The information about the episode is irrelevant here, and unfortunately, the relevant information needed is what episode so that readers could track it down. I suppose I can ask at the show's talk page. Wnt ( talk) 02:24, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
I see someone reorganized the text by use after that, and much shortened the irrelevant plot descriptions. I was thinking of doing something along the line but couldn't decide how, so I'll just say, more or less, "mischief managed". Wnt ( talk) 03:08, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
I don't think Elmer Fudd would have cared about a dipping bird at all.
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21:46, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
The "History" section now makes mention of an earlier patent, "Activated Amusement Device", which is U.S. patent 2,384,168 by Arthur M. Hillery from 1944, and seems to be a similar claim with drawings of a drinking bird. The document has "CANCELLED" stamped at the top. I'm not sure how to read patentese... does anyone understand how this relates to Sullivan and Shackley having invented it? Also worth noting, the same source ( http://www.borderschess.org/MintoWheelCalculationUpdate.pdf) mentions an 1881 patent ( U.S. patent 243,909) for a basic Minto wheel design, which definitely seems like part of the history of the drinking bird (being such a similar mechanism and coming some 60 years earlier). — Mu Mind ( talk) 03:26, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
It appears at the start of the movie busily dunking its head into a glass containing water. The crew of the spaceship have been in "suspended animation" for many years as a way of traveling great distances without enduring the boredom or physical aging of decades of journey time. The water in the glass would have all evaporated within a year unless the air was kept at 100% relative humidity and in that special case the bird would still not operate as there would be no evaporation from the beak and consequently no cooling and thus no operating "heat engine." Also unless "artificial gravity" was generated the bird would also not operate (Science fiction stories and films should at least get the science right when they are supposedly showing "science fact." Ecstatist ( talk) 10:01, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
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I'd challenge the sentence "they are sometimes incorrectly labelled as a PerpetualMotion device."
Now, before you call me scientifically illiterate, I do understand that the bird is harnessing the energy from the latent heat of the evaporation of water. But I think it's fair to say that, since the laws of thermodynamics render true perpetual motion impossible, in common parlance the phrase "perpetual motion machine" has come to mean "something that looks like an example of true perpetual motion, but actually isn't. And the drinking bird fits that description to a tee. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.194.189 ( talk) 06:56, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
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it also appears in a episode of Cowboy Bebop, can't remember which one... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ceredir ( talk • contribs) 06:51, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
The image should be replaced with a photograph or a realistic 3D render. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.120.103.47 ( talk) 04:03, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Nice article. It could use some mention of who invented it and especially when. -- Karuna8 03:21, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
No, it was not. Sullivan was NOT the first to create the drinking bird. It originated in China but was never commercialized. It was PATENTED by Sullivan, this you are correct but NOT invented. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.101.126.27 ( talk) 10:37, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
I took out a sentence "The Generation II Pokémon Porygon2's design and movements seems to be based on the drinking bird." The target article said it didn't appear in an episode, and after looking up some images and a video I still don't see the resemblance.
I'm thinking the cultural references in general should go in chronological order. Wnt ( talk) 02:07, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
I ended up stripping out the following: "In an episode from The Wild Thornberrys, Kip and Neil attempt to sell red drinking birds at a foreign market for money, but when Donnie shows up at their stall they abandon the scheme and instead attempt to use Donnie instead. Later when they take Donnie to perform as "the wild boy" at a theater, the curtain opens and reveals Donnie holding one of the drinking birds, (possibly to show how gentle he is), but when Kip and Neil show Donnie chocolate from backstage, Donnie begins to act wild (hence why Kip and Neil gave him the stage name "wild boy") and throws the bird away." The information about the episode is irrelevant here, and unfortunately, the relevant information needed is what episode so that readers could track it down. I suppose I can ask at the show's talk page. Wnt ( talk) 02:24, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
I see someone reorganized the text by use after that, and much shortened the irrelevant plot descriptions. I was thinking of doing something along the line but couldn't decide how, so I'll just say, more or less, "mischief managed". Wnt ( talk) 03:08, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
I don't think Elmer Fudd would have cared about a dipping bird at all.
Simicich (
talk)
21:46, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
The "History" section now makes mention of an earlier patent, "Activated Amusement Device", which is U.S. patent 2,384,168 by Arthur M. Hillery from 1944, and seems to be a similar claim with drawings of a drinking bird. The document has "CANCELLED" stamped at the top. I'm not sure how to read patentese... does anyone understand how this relates to Sullivan and Shackley having invented it? Also worth noting, the same source ( http://www.borderschess.org/MintoWheelCalculationUpdate.pdf) mentions an 1881 patent ( U.S. patent 243,909) for a basic Minto wheel design, which definitely seems like part of the history of the drinking bird (being such a similar mechanism and coming some 60 years earlier). — Mu Mind ( talk) 03:26, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
It appears at the start of the movie busily dunking its head into a glass containing water. The crew of the spaceship have been in "suspended animation" for many years as a way of traveling great distances without enduring the boredom or physical aging of decades of journey time. The water in the glass would have all evaporated within a year unless the air was kept at 100% relative humidity and in that special case the bird would still not operate as there would be no evaporation from the beak and consequently no cooling and thus no operating "heat engine." Also unless "artificial gravity" was generated the bird would also not operate (Science fiction stories and films should at least get the science right when they are supposedly showing "science fact." Ecstatist ( talk) 10:01, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
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I'd challenge the sentence "they are sometimes incorrectly labelled as a PerpetualMotion device."
Now, before you call me scientifically illiterate, I do understand that the bird is harnessing the energy from the latent heat of the evaporation of water. But I think it's fair to say that, since the laws of thermodynamics render true perpetual motion impossible, in common parlance the phrase "perpetual motion machine" has come to mean "something that looks like an example of true perpetual motion, but actually isn't. And the drinking bird fits that description to a tee. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.194.189 ( talk) 06:56, 10 June 2018 (UTC)