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IS this a stub? Certainly it's short, but is there actually more that needs to be said on the topic? TSP 30 June 2005 08:30 (UTC)
I agree, this is not a stub. I therefore removed the stub status.
For the 1 July 2005 Vote for deletion resulting in merge to Oxbridge, see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Doxbridge. -- Jonel | Speak 03:29, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Looking at the voting page it is quite clear that merge did not win (3 votes), but rather delete with 6 votes...
Gangeska
I can assure you that most peoplle in oxbridge will go through three years at their university without every coming over this term.
For me, the first place I saw it used was in wikipedia, and I have studied at cambridge for two years. It is quite clear to most people here that the term is simply something used by people at durham to feel closer to exbridge.
It is certainly not something that one should relevantly mention in the oxbridge article. As it stood at the time of the merge, the oxbridge article was about half and half, which I see a bit like writing about the G8 countries, and spending half the article talking about how Iceland is also a country.
In my view, fairly assessing the vote the way you claim it should be assessed, it is clear that the whole vote should be declared void,
and if anything is to be done, a new vote should be helf on the oxbridge page, as that is the one people read, and as the change to that page is what will alter what people will see.
The term "Doxbridge" is most commonly used to the sports tournament. It runs no deeper. Look at the 230 or so google hits - the vast majority refer to the sports tournament. The other tiny minority mostly discuss the term "doxbridge" rather than use it as if it were an accepted term that describes some sort of affiliation between the three universities other than through the sports tournament. Voting on whether to delete the article, merge it etc is stupid as only 9 people or so vote in it - and so the ultimate decision depends on how many Durham or Oxbridge students (present or past) vote. Rather, it is clear that "Doxbridge" only refers to the sports tournament. Thus, I have linked "Doxbridge" to a stub on the tournament that I created. This avoids confusion for those using the term "Doxbridge" in the common sense (i.e. as refering to the tournament) - such as the link to "Doxbridge" (i.e. the tournament) in the Durham University article. Logica 14:17, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
This article needs to stay redirected to Oxbridge per the terms of the GFDL. Hiding Talk 12:16, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
This page previously failed a VFD - see above - and was merged into Oxbridge. Is there any particular justification for its recreation, or should it just be re-merged? TSP ( talk) 10:20, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
It has been 14-years since 2005. While back then evidence was likely lacking for its use, the term has seen numerous mentions on the internet since.
The topic of this article, as defined in the lead, is the portmanteau word "Doxbridge". Recent edits by an anonymous editor have had the effect of introducing material that is a direct comparison of the three universities rather than about the term Doxbridge. This has the effect of changing the topic of the article from being about the word itself into a being about a group of universities. The anonymous editor has indeed stated explicitly in their edit summaries that they believe this is an article about a group of universities. Firstly, I think it needs to be recognised that this is a change of the topic of the page that needs to be discussed before being implemented. Secondly, I do not believe that the decision that Doxbridge is a group of universities is one that should, at this time, be made in Wikipedia's editorial voice. While it is indisputable that the word itself exists, and is thus a valid topic, the coverage of its use to refer seriously to a group of universities would not (at least currently) be substantial enough to justify an article (and seems to be confined to the legal world). Thirdly, this has the appearance of WP:ADVOCACY: all of the edits made from the IP address of the anonymous editor have either been to alter this article in a manner that moves it towards being about a group of universities or to insert links to this article in the "see also" section of articles on university groups. I invite others' thoughts on this matter. Robminchin ( talk) 19:27, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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IS this a stub? Certainly it's short, but is there actually more that needs to be said on the topic? TSP 30 June 2005 08:30 (UTC)
I agree, this is not a stub. I therefore removed the stub status.
For the 1 July 2005 Vote for deletion resulting in merge to Oxbridge, see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Doxbridge. -- Jonel | Speak 03:29, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Looking at the voting page it is quite clear that merge did not win (3 votes), but rather delete with 6 votes...
Gangeska
I can assure you that most peoplle in oxbridge will go through three years at their university without every coming over this term.
For me, the first place I saw it used was in wikipedia, and I have studied at cambridge for two years. It is quite clear to most people here that the term is simply something used by people at durham to feel closer to exbridge.
It is certainly not something that one should relevantly mention in the oxbridge article. As it stood at the time of the merge, the oxbridge article was about half and half, which I see a bit like writing about the G8 countries, and spending half the article talking about how Iceland is also a country.
In my view, fairly assessing the vote the way you claim it should be assessed, it is clear that the whole vote should be declared void,
and if anything is to be done, a new vote should be helf on the oxbridge page, as that is the one people read, and as the change to that page is what will alter what people will see.
The term "Doxbridge" is most commonly used to the sports tournament. It runs no deeper. Look at the 230 or so google hits - the vast majority refer to the sports tournament. The other tiny minority mostly discuss the term "doxbridge" rather than use it as if it were an accepted term that describes some sort of affiliation between the three universities other than through the sports tournament. Voting on whether to delete the article, merge it etc is stupid as only 9 people or so vote in it - and so the ultimate decision depends on how many Durham or Oxbridge students (present or past) vote. Rather, it is clear that "Doxbridge" only refers to the sports tournament. Thus, I have linked "Doxbridge" to a stub on the tournament that I created. This avoids confusion for those using the term "Doxbridge" in the common sense (i.e. as refering to the tournament) - such as the link to "Doxbridge" (i.e. the tournament) in the Durham University article. Logica 14:17, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
This article needs to stay redirected to Oxbridge per the terms of the GFDL. Hiding Talk 12:16, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
This page previously failed a VFD - see above - and was merged into Oxbridge. Is there any particular justification for its recreation, or should it just be re-merged? TSP ( talk) 10:20, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
It has been 14-years since 2005. While back then evidence was likely lacking for its use, the term has seen numerous mentions on the internet since.
The topic of this article, as defined in the lead, is the portmanteau word "Doxbridge". Recent edits by an anonymous editor have had the effect of introducing material that is a direct comparison of the three universities rather than about the term Doxbridge. This has the effect of changing the topic of the article from being about the word itself into a being about a group of universities. The anonymous editor has indeed stated explicitly in their edit summaries that they believe this is an article about a group of universities. Firstly, I think it needs to be recognised that this is a change of the topic of the page that needs to be discussed before being implemented. Secondly, I do not believe that the decision that Doxbridge is a group of universities is one that should, at this time, be made in Wikipedia's editorial voice. While it is indisputable that the word itself exists, and is thus a valid topic, the coverage of its use to refer seriously to a group of universities would not (at least currently) be substantial enough to justify an article (and seems to be confined to the legal world). Thirdly, this has the appearance of WP:ADVOCACY: all of the edits made from the IP address of the anonymous editor have either been to alter this article in a manner that moves it towards being about a group of universities or to insert links to this article in the "see also" section of articles on university groups. I invite others' thoughts on this matter. Robminchin ( talk) 19:27, 28 September 2019 (UTC)