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Hi there, I'm researching Downtown LA. I'm interested in any opinions or stories, or statistics about the area or the people who live in it. I'm also interested in the current issues that are pressing in Downtown, either in the economy or any other social situation. Please help to create this discussion arena. Thank you.-— Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.163.100.137 ( talk) 04:29, 26 January 2005 (UTC)
For those of us living outside of, and unfamiliar with, Los Angeles, this mapless article is disorienting. Someone should do a map, especially of the downtown's various neighborhoods ... c'mmon geographers! ...
FurnaldHall 09:32, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
I've that this is an urban legend, and that the law restricting heights was actually designed to keep the City Hall the tallest building in L.A. Can anyone find a source to settle it one way or another? - Willmcw 01:42, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
This is my first attempt at wikipedia so I do not know if I am posting this correctly. I was contacted by the local paper, the Downtown News, due to the vast number of factual errors in this listing. And, looking it over, it needs far more than just an edit. It needs a top to bottom rewrite. What is the policy on this? I might add I am the former president (and current VP) of the Downtown Los Angeles Neighborhood Council, on the board of the Historic Core BID, have just started the Los Angeles Museum and my family has been Downtown for four generations - Bradywestater July 2007
The previous image of "Bunker Hill as viewed from a parking ramp at USC" did not show Bunker Hill. As a former resident of both USC and Bunker Hill, I can say without doubt that it is not visible from campus. Rather, the view is of the Financial District. Bunker Hill lies on the opposite side (North) of the Financial District and is impossible to see from the USC campus (South). I have corrected the image's caption and added images of two notable landmarks from Bunker Hill towards the bottom. Bobak 20:55, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
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"Downtown Los Angeles is the center of metropolitan Los Angeles, California, if not necessarily its heart."
I think a better sentence would be, "Downtown Los Angeles is the geographic center of metropolitan Los Angeles, California." More concise, and the "heart" comment seems slightly irrelevant. I'm changing it--I'm a novice at Wikipedia, though, so if I've violated some protocol, please change it back!
Mcgillionaire 15:13, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
It looks like the Westlake neighborhood article ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westlake%2C_Los_Angeles%2C_California) has claimed City West (although not by name) as its own. Does anyone know where City West ends and Westlake begins? If so, maybe the argument can be made to correct that article. -- Alika 00:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
This news article indicates that Downtown Los Angeles may be in need of a once over. Would you mind reading through Downtown Los Angeles to see whether any changes need to be made. Thanks. -- Jreferee ( Talk) 15:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I propose the following outline (which could certainly include many more sub headings):
I spent a few days working on the Downtown entry. I think it's gone fairly well. New sections have been added and existing sections rewritten for accuracy, neutrality and breadth.
Check out the new photos, history section (still very much incomplete, but much of it is beyond my ability to write), attractions section (edited to remove 'tourist guide'-type language), construction projects, and my favorite, the public transportation section.
Maybe curious visitors and Angelenos can get a sense of what our neighborhood's about now.
What do you think of adding a nightlife/dining section? Is that beyond the scope of this article?
Alossix ( talk) 09:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC) Rich Alossi
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Howcum Expo Park is in this article? It is certainly not in downtown L.A. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis ( talk) 19:53, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Certainly not true, according to http://projects.latimes.com/mapping-la/neighborhoods/neighborhood/downtown/. See separate item on this talk page titled "Use L.A. Times boundaries?" Yours, GeorgeLouis ( talk) 22:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
I am suggesting that we use the Los Angeles Times neighborhood boundary for this page. The staff of the Times put a lot of effort into defining them, and they are de facto "official" now. For Downtown, go here. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis ( talk) 22:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
How come there is no mention of Jewelry District, Toy District, Skid Row, Warehouse District, etc.? This article needs to encompass all of Downtown, not just focusing on the affluent areas. There is also no mention of Los Angeles's many scattered homeless residents. This lack of info makes this article read like a tourist booklet, only designed for those who want to sightsee and spend their money.
And you don't need to mention the Conservancy tours over and over again! Just say that "the conservancy offers several tours of los angeles, including..." at the beginning or end of the neighborhoods section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donkeykong3488 ( talk • contribs) 20:52, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
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It says in the area section that downtown L.A is about 8.538 km2 big. That would make it about 80k wide and 90k long. I guess that would be a decimal error?? Marco :-o Bonteburg ( talk) 17:53, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
I see. 8 *point* 5 km, right? Consider it solved. Bonteburg ( talk) 18:36, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
I was struck by a Marketplace PRI story on the (re)opening of Grand Park in dtla, but I have no clue where to insert it or what to call it. Is this Grand Hope park? Here's the story on Jul 27, 2012 http://www.marketplace.org/topics/life/take-walk-though-countrys-newest-urban-park plus a postscript http://www.marketplace.org/topics/life/final-note/walk-park Mulp ( talk) 23:07, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
It now says two subway lines and three light rail lines operated by Metro. What's the distinction being made? Red, purple, blue, and expo are underground at 7th street at least. Blue and expo are above ground some of the time. Gold is above ground all of the time. Would it not be easier to say "five light rail lines" if that's what we're talking about?— alf laylah wa laylah ( talk) 17:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
I've removed the Pop Culture section. Nothing in it was sourced, and it simply turned into a long list of originally researched information, none of it very interesting. If you want to put the pieces back again, I suggest they be re-added one just one or two at a time, with sources. See Wikipedia:"In popular culture" content. GeorgeLouis ( talk) 15:08, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Why revert that? You asked for a source, I found one. You took it out and replaced it with the previously existing bad link and replaced the {{fact}} tag. What's the deal? — alf laylah wa laylah ( talk) 16:06, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for the wholesale reversion. Yes, there are some smaller, notable areas within Downtown, but in my opinion it isn't enough just to say they are Notable in order to have a separate WP article about them. I've refashioned the list to begin with the L.A. Times-supported sub-neighborhoods (all of them now separately cited), and I hope the community endorses the idea that each sub-neighborhood should be deemed WP:Notable only if they are referenced by the usual WP:Reliable sources. For example, the existence of an Old Bank District, Los Angeles could be referenced by citing this story from the Downtown News. That said, I would like to see some more internal links added here. Yours in Wikidom, GeorgeLouis ( talk) 17:28, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
From a cursory search, it seems that the term "Central City East" to refer to Skid Row is used only by a business-oriented group, hardly a WP:Reliable source. See here. Maybe the Downtown News has adopted it; I dunno. GeorgeLouis ( talk) 17:51, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
It seems to me that individual businesses should not be listed for DTLA because there are so many of them. See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cities/US_Guideline#Economy, which really does not give much guidance but can serve as a starting point for discussion. What do others think? BeenAroundAWhile ( talk) 20:29, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
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This article seems to stop before the 2010 US Census. There is just one reference to data from that Census, and no contrast between 2000 and 2010. More to the point, what has happened since 2009? Is the Historic Core coming along well, after so much money was poured into it? The organization of the article is good, the photos are excellent, but the story needs its latest chapter. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 09:03, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
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Downtown L.A. is referred to as a neighborhood. What should the geographical subdivisions within it be called? I prefer district. Yours, BeenAroundAWhile ( talk) 05:29, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
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Hi there, I'm researching Downtown LA. I'm interested in any opinions or stories, or statistics about the area or the people who live in it. I'm also interested in the current issues that are pressing in Downtown, either in the economy or any other social situation. Please help to create this discussion arena. Thank you.-— Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.163.100.137 ( talk) 04:29, 26 January 2005 (UTC)
For those of us living outside of, and unfamiliar with, Los Angeles, this mapless article is disorienting. Someone should do a map, especially of the downtown's various neighborhoods ... c'mmon geographers! ...
FurnaldHall 09:32, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
I've that this is an urban legend, and that the law restricting heights was actually designed to keep the City Hall the tallest building in L.A. Can anyone find a source to settle it one way or another? - Willmcw 01:42, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
This is my first attempt at wikipedia so I do not know if I am posting this correctly. I was contacted by the local paper, the Downtown News, due to the vast number of factual errors in this listing. And, looking it over, it needs far more than just an edit. It needs a top to bottom rewrite. What is the policy on this? I might add I am the former president (and current VP) of the Downtown Los Angeles Neighborhood Council, on the board of the Historic Core BID, have just started the Los Angeles Museum and my family has been Downtown for four generations - Bradywestater July 2007
The previous image of "Bunker Hill as viewed from a parking ramp at USC" did not show Bunker Hill. As a former resident of both USC and Bunker Hill, I can say without doubt that it is not visible from campus. Rather, the view is of the Financial District. Bunker Hill lies on the opposite side (North) of the Financial District and is impossible to see from the USC campus (South). I have corrected the image's caption and added images of two notable landmarks from Bunker Hill towards the bottom. Bobak 20:55, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
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"Downtown Los Angeles is the center of metropolitan Los Angeles, California, if not necessarily its heart."
I think a better sentence would be, "Downtown Los Angeles is the geographic center of metropolitan Los Angeles, California." More concise, and the "heart" comment seems slightly irrelevant. I'm changing it--I'm a novice at Wikipedia, though, so if I've violated some protocol, please change it back!
Mcgillionaire 15:13, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
It looks like the Westlake neighborhood article ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westlake%2C_Los_Angeles%2C_California) has claimed City West (although not by name) as its own. Does anyone know where City West ends and Westlake begins? If so, maybe the argument can be made to correct that article. -- Alika 00:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
This news article indicates that Downtown Los Angeles may be in need of a once over. Would you mind reading through Downtown Los Angeles to see whether any changes need to be made. Thanks. -- Jreferee ( Talk) 15:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I propose the following outline (which could certainly include many more sub headings):
I spent a few days working on the Downtown entry. I think it's gone fairly well. New sections have been added and existing sections rewritten for accuracy, neutrality and breadth.
Check out the new photos, history section (still very much incomplete, but much of it is beyond my ability to write), attractions section (edited to remove 'tourist guide'-type language), construction projects, and my favorite, the public transportation section.
Maybe curious visitors and Angelenos can get a sense of what our neighborhood's about now.
What do you think of adding a nightlife/dining section? Is that beyond the scope of this article?
Alossix ( talk) 09:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC) Rich Alossi
Removed "citation needed" notice at top of article with the addition of 1904 building height limit info reference. Rich Alossi 06:40, 13 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding
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Howcum Expo Park is in this article? It is certainly not in downtown L.A. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis ( talk) 19:53, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Certainly not true, according to http://projects.latimes.com/mapping-la/neighborhoods/neighborhood/downtown/. See separate item on this talk page titled "Use L.A. Times boundaries?" Yours, GeorgeLouis ( talk) 22:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
I am suggesting that we use the Los Angeles Times neighborhood boundary for this page. The staff of the Times put a lot of effort into defining them, and they are de facto "official" now. For Downtown, go here. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis ( talk) 22:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
How come there is no mention of Jewelry District, Toy District, Skid Row, Warehouse District, etc.? This article needs to encompass all of Downtown, not just focusing on the affluent areas. There is also no mention of Los Angeles's many scattered homeless residents. This lack of info makes this article read like a tourist booklet, only designed for those who want to sightsee and spend their money.
And you don't need to mention the Conservancy tours over and over again! Just say that "the conservancy offers several tours of los angeles, including..." at the beginning or end of the neighborhoods section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donkeykong3488 ( talk • contribs) 20:52, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
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It says in the area section that downtown L.A is about 8.538 km2 big. That would make it about 80k wide and 90k long. I guess that would be a decimal error?? Marco :-o Bonteburg ( talk) 17:53, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
I see. 8 *point* 5 km, right? Consider it solved. Bonteburg ( talk) 18:36, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
I was struck by a Marketplace PRI story on the (re)opening of Grand Park in dtla, but I have no clue where to insert it or what to call it. Is this Grand Hope park? Here's the story on Jul 27, 2012 http://www.marketplace.org/topics/life/take-walk-though-countrys-newest-urban-park plus a postscript http://www.marketplace.org/topics/life/final-note/walk-park Mulp ( talk) 23:07, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
It now says two subway lines and three light rail lines operated by Metro. What's the distinction being made? Red, purple, blue, and expo are underground at 7th street at least. Blue and expo are above ground some of the time. Gold is above ground all of the time. Would it not be easier to say "five light rail lines" if that's what we're talking about?— alf laylah wa laylah ( talk) 17:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
I've removed the Pop Culture section. Nothing in it was sourced, and it simply turned into a long list of originally researched information, none of it very interesting. If you want to put the pieces back again, I suggest they be re-added one just one or two at a time, with sources. See Wikipedia:"In popular culture" content. GeorgeLouis ( talk) 15:08, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Why revert that? You asked for a source, I found one. You took it out and replaced it with the previously existing bad link and replaced the {{fact}} tag. What's the deal? — alf laylah wa laylah ( talk) 16:06, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for the wholesale reversion. Yes, there are some smaller, notable areas within Downtown, but in my opinion it isn't enough just to say they are Notable in order to have a separate WP article about them. I've refashioned the list to begin with the L.A. Times-supported sub-neighborhoods (all of them now separately cited), and I hope the community endorses the idea that each sub-neighborhood should be deemed WP:Notable only if they are referenced by the usual WP:Reliable sources. For example, the existence of an Old Bank District, Los Angeles could be referenced by citing this story from the Downtown News. That said, I would like to see some more internal links added here. Yours in Wikidom, GeorgeLouis ( talk) 17:28, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
From a cursory search, it seems that the term "Central City East" to refer to Skid Row is used only by a business-oriented group, hardly a WP:Reliable source. See here. Maybe the Downtown News has adopted it; I dunno. GeorgeLouis ( talk) 17:51, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
It seems to me that individual businesses should not be listed for DTLA because there are so many of them. See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cities/US_Guideline#Economy, which really does not give much guidance but can serve as a starting point for discussion. What do others think? BeenAroundAWhile ( talk) 20:29, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
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This article seems to stop before the 2010 US Census. There is just one reference to data from that Census, and no contrast between 2000 and 2010. More to the point, what has happened since 2009? Is the Historic Core coming along well, after so much money was poured into it? The organization of the article is good, the photos are excellent, but the story needs its latest chapter. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 09:03, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
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