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Isn't this the exact same legal entity as Sverdlovsk Raion, just with a different name and size according to the different governments? Not sure why they're covered in two separate articles. HappyWith ( talk) 19:17, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Sverdlovsk Raion is for the time being real, Dovzhansk Raion is fictitious and only exists in paperwork. Ymblanter ( talk) 19:29, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply

But isn’t Dovzhansk Raion the same legal entity in Ukrainian law, just renamed for decommunization purposes? HappyWith ( talk) 20:48, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Formally, it is a new entity. Ymblanter ( talk) 20:49, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply

By that definition, we would also need to split the page for every single formally existing raion into "1923-2020" and "2020-present" forks like the Ukrainian Wikipedia does. IMO, it doesn’t make sense to only do it here. HappyWith ( talk) 22:32, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply

On the other hand, people would try to create a new article or move it wihout consensus. I would just wait and and see what happens, probably Ukraine would retake the area in a few years, and the problem would solve by itself. Ymblanter ( talk) 05:54, 19 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Update: I've started a merge proposal at Talk:Sverdlovsk Raion. HappyWith ( talk) 21:21, 16 November 2023 (UTC) reply

Why did you ask then if you were not interested in the answer? Well, not for the first time as far as I am concerned. Ymblanter ( talk) 22:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC) reply

I wasn't convinced by the answer - that's not the same thing as "not being interested in the answer". HappyWith ( talk) 22:18, 16 November 2023 (UTC) reply

And this is why you started that proposal repeating the same arguments but did not even mention this discussion, like if it does not exist and I did not say anything. Ymblanter ( talk) 22:23, 16 November 2023 (UTC) reply

I did mention that the 2020-present raion is its own legal entity, which you brought to my attention, but I don't really think I'm obligated to tell editors about a random brief discussion from months ago and repeat claims I don't agree with when I make a proposal. HappyWith ( talk) 22:37, 16 November 2023 (UTC) reply