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Be sure you’re doing deep dives for sources. You will have to go beyond what is available on the web. Make use of the library's resources, please, and be sure you're using Harvard citations like we did in our first project. Thanks. — Grlucas ( talk) 12:47, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
I have found a couple sources but I am having trouble doing the citation part. Since the last project the citation part has gave me a lot of questions. Does anyone have any suggestions? —- Taeeees ( talk) 14:07, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Would it be relevant to add an "Honors" section? There was a building named after her at Johnson C. Smith University that I saw an article about. - User:Eswill01 ( talk) 15:13, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
@eswill01: I think that could go under the career section if I’m not mistaken. I do like your idea of a “Honors” section though.— Taeeees ( talk) 19:22, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
When adding sources, let's make them complete sentences so that it is easier to reorganize the article if needed. C.pinkston ( talk) 18:43, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Update, I added my source, some information, and cited it. Do note, I believe the article that I found could be a great source of information for this page. Furthermore, Wikipedia citation works differently involving url links to Galileo articles. Just be prepared or researched to make sure your edit is properly published. I ran into that issue and it was an easy fix but you may want to sure to keep your sources bookmarked for issues that may arise as such. Cross0023 ( talk) 22:46, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
I asked the librarian for assistance, and most of what she came back with that was useful was from the internet, so I went ahead and used those. Is that OK? JREubanks ( talk) 21:28, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Folks, once again, we should be using Harvard citations and shortened footnotes with the {{sfn}} template in our article. Everyone who has added a source has not followed this guideline. Fortunately this is easy to fix. Thanks. — Grlucas ( talk) 18:10, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
@ Brebre143, Jayla P, Taeeees, Hestera nmac3108, JREubanks, C.pinkston, Jmshepp912, AutumnMM97, KHunter7, Chaseducharme, KLJordan, Cross0023, Eswill01, JRDavisjr, Morganwiggins928, and Jasmarie1215: A solid start to the article, though there is much to do! You should be working on this daily until the end of the semester to get it perfect. We're aiming to meet FA criteria here, so we need to be meticulous. I have a couple of notes.
See my last corrections after this week of editing. There are quite a few.
Again, please use sfn (see above). I have corrected this several times to show how it is done. It's up to you now to be sure it's right. Some sources are questionable, like those with no authors and no publication dates. I suggest we try to get rid of these. Be wary of source order in the works cited §; I left a note in there about correct order. Page numbers must be used from print sources.
We must start adding categories, too. These just have to be searched for.
Typos are unacceptable. Errors you leave for someone else to correct are also unacceptable—especially obvious ones. Please preview before saving. Make multiple edits before saving. Mark minor edits, too, when you make them. All of this is good WP etiquette.
Start thinking big picture, rather than just adding sentence willy-nilly. You might pick a section to work on and spend some time focusing.
Keep at it! — Grlucas ( talk) 13:37, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
I know that my formatting for the categories are wrong, but I am not sure how to fix it. I've looked at our old articles and other pages, but can't seem to figure out how to separate them and get the box around them. C.pinkston ( talk) 21:51, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
I was reading over our article, and I feel like it is coming along pretty well, but I have a couple of thoughts that I wanted to share. Firstly, I am not sure that the sentence "Growing up in the rural South inspired Yancy to change the world around her." works best in the lead paragraph. I like the nature of this statement, but I feel like it might be better served in the "Early Life" section of the article, especially as that section is kind of small. The same thing occurs to me for the list that is currently in the lead paragraph of the degrees that she has earned. Does anyone else have any thoughts on these matters?
Secondly, I noticed that in one of the articles that I edited for class, (Not one for the Women in Red project) someone stated that it was bad form to list the names of children. Does anyone know anything about this or why it might be the case? If it is indeed frowned upon, we ought to remove the name of Cowser's daughter. I am unsure about the criteria around this matter, but I thought that this would be the palce to bring it up to see if anyone else knows anything about it. JREubanks ( talk) 23:38, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Thought I would point out that I thought "academe" in the lead paragraph was a typo until I googled it. Would it be better to use "academia" for clarity, since it is a more commonly used synonym? I've also noticed that there are several duplicate wikilinks in the article. I'm under the impression that it's best to only link to a topic the first time it's mentioned, but i may be wrong? - Eswill01 ( talk) 21:34, 03 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello, everyone. Here is my article peer review. I think all of you have a really good start here. Everyone is using the correct tone of voice for Wikipedia and your sources with good as well. One thing that I would suggest is to switch from using bullet points in the accomplishments section to a paragraph. That might help the article flow a little better, but that is just my opinion. Other than that, I think you all have a very good start. KLJordan ( talk) 23:23, 3 November 2020 (UTC)KLJordan
Hi, just wanted to add my article review.
Great work on the article so far! I think it just needs some attention to detail here and there. Hestera nmac3108 ( talk) 05:23, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
I added a source from Clemson University and it got deleted I felt this source was reliable coming from a respectable university and it also included information that I could use in the achievement section this source is from 2020. As a group could we please discuss deletions prior because it takes a lot of effort to to format these sources. Also, I accidentally deleted a list from the awards section. Jayla P ( talk) 20:56, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
I see that a lot of work is still needed in the honors section. I do not think there suppose to be (citation needed) everywhere — Taeeees ( talk) 16:10, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
I am working on finding sources for those. If they can't be found, it is getting deleted. Some of the second paragraph in the lead would also fit better in the early life section if we can source it. C.pinkston ( talk) 18:43, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
I found a citation for one of the items that needed a citation in the honors section, but I am drawing a blank for these others. I move that we go ahead and delete these items that we can't find sources for. What do you all think? JREubanks ( talk) 22:08, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
I am also looking for sources for those, do y’all know what is missing or needed to be added to complete this article?— Taeeees ( talk) 17:46, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
I was working on trying to find sources for the honors section, and I noticed something that needs some attention. Where it says that she won the lifetime achievement award, does anyone know who gave the award to her, what lifetime achievement award it was? That information is necessary to know to search for a source. I feel strongly that the remaining awards/honors without citations should just be deleted. JREubanks ( talk) 00:45, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
I moved some of the lead section into the other areas of the article if anyone is wondering where it went. One of the peer reviews mentions keeping the lead simple and not too repetitive, especially if it can fit in another section. Also please don't forget to add shortened footnotes on the sentences you add (except in the lead section, they don't need citations). It gets tough going back through every source to find one piece of information. C.pinkston ( talk) 20:38, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
I think at this point in time it might be appropriate to start making sure that all of our contributions flow well when reading. I edited early life to achieve this, as it stood out as seeming like our individual contributions were making it choppy when reading. - Eswill01 ( talk) 19:00, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Exciting news, I managed to find some Wikipedia capable/approved pictures for our article! The picture of Yancy took a considerable amount of time to find. I'm unsure: if there is a way to crop into the photo so it may become a portrait, if a group photo is appropriate, or if the location is optimal but it is the only eligible photo that I could find and the info-box felt right for the moment. Cross0023 ( talk) 03:50, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
Congratulation, editors. You have come a long way on this article. I can see by the edits for this week, 11/11–11/17, that you are getting near the end. This is a great place to be, but it makes additional edits even more difficult.
Additions have been made without citations, like this one. How does this happen? Citations in general need to be dealt with. There are currently four big red errors listed in the citations section. These will not fix themselves. What's the issue here?
Be careful with revision. I have noticed that many who try to revise end up adding more words; you should be doing the opposite. Eliminate filler words. Do not add words at this point, but make your prose more economical. Tighter. E.g., is "stepped into the role of" really better than "became"? (Yes, you can still add information, but avoid any revisions where you add awkward phrases or wordiness. Does that make sense?) And, for goodness sake, stop with the honors list—and we have a table now! This huge list seems unnecessary, as it just replicates a list from a source. Could you stick with the most prestigious awards? Cut this way back.
Someone tell me what's wrong with using "Mrs Yancy" in this article? (See Personal life §.) Are education and alma mater both needed in the infobox? There seems to be quite a bit missing from the infobox, too.
There's still a bit of overlinking. Does Ph.D. really need to be linked? Europe? Why not? Time for a major clean-up.
Looking forward to this week, you should be putting the final touches on this article, incorporating Wikipedia:Good article criteria. Keep going! We are nearing the end. — Grlucas ( talk) 15:28, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
I filled in some more of the info box, but I have seen on some pages like Harvard University president's infobox that have his tenures and former jobs separated. I think it would be a nice addition to our page, but had difficulty adding it when following their format and received an error message. C.pinkston ( talk) 22:38, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Editors, one of you could start the process of adding this article to Wikipedia:Did you know. It will have to be published first (all obvious errors fixed), so keep that in mind. Coordinate with me if this is something you'd like to do. — Grlucas ( talk) 14:10, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Dorothy Cowser Yancy article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Be sure you’re doing deep dives for sources. You will have to go beyond what is available on the web. Make use of the library's resources, please, and be sure you're using Harvard citations like we did in our first project. Thanks. — Grlucas ( talk) 12:47, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
I have found a couple sources but I am having trouble doing the citation part. Since the last project the citation part has gave me a lot of questions. Does anyone have any suggestions? —- Taeeees ( talk) 14:07, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Would it be relevant to add an "Honors" section? There was a building named after her at Johnson C. Smith University that I saw an article about. - User:Eswill01 ( talk) 15:13, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
@eswill01: I think that could go under the career section if I’m not mistaken. I do like your idea of a “Honors” section though.— Taeeees ( talk) 19:22, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
When adding sources, let's make them complete sentences so that it is easier to reorganize the article if needed. C.pinkston ( talk) 18:43, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Update, I added my source, some information, and cited it. Do note, I believe the article that I found could be a great source of information for this page. Furthermore, Wikipedia citation works differently involving url links to Galileo articles. Just be prepared or researched to make sure your edit is properly published. I ran into that issue and it was an easy fix but you may want to sure to keep your sources bookmarked for issues that may arise as such. Cross0023 ( talk) 22:46, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
I asked the librarian for assistance, and most of what she came back with that was useful was from the internet, so I went ahead and used those. Is that OK? JREubanks ( talk) 21:28, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Folks, once again, we should be using Harvard citations and shortened footnotes with the {{sfn}} template in our article. Everyone who has added a source has not followed this guideline. Fortunately this is easy to fix. Thanks. — Grlucas ( talk) 18:10, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
@ Brebre143, Jayla P, Taeeees, Hestera nmac3108, JREubanks, C.pinkston, Jmshepp912, AutumnMM97, KHunter7, Chaseducharme, KLJordan, Cross0023, Eswill01, JRDavisjr, Morganwiggins928, and Jasmarie1215: A solid start to the article, though there is much to do! You should be working on this daily until the end of the semester to get it perfect. We're aiming to meet FA criteria here, so we need to be meticulous. I have a couple of notes.
See my last corrections after this week of editing. There are quite a few.
Again, please use sfn (see above). I have corrected this several times to show how it is done. It's up to you now to be sure it's right. Some sources are questionable, like those with no authors and no publication dates. I suggest we try to get rid of these. Be wary of source order in the works cited §; I left a note in there about correct order. Page numbers must be used from print sources.
We must start adding categories, too. These just have to be searched for.
Typos are unacceptable. Errors you leave for someone else to correct are also unacceptable—especially obvious ones. Please preview before saving. Make multiple edits before saving. Mark minor edits, too, when you make them. All of this is good WP etiquette.
Start thinking big picture, rather than just adding sentence willy-nilly. You might pick a section to work on and spend some time focusing.
Keep at it! — Grlucas ( talk) 13:37, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
I know that my formatting for the categories are wrong, but I am not sure how to fix it. I've looked at our old articles and other pages, but can't seem to figure out how to separate them and get the box around them. C.pinkston ( talk) 21:51, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
I was reading over our article, and I feel like it is coming along pretty well, but I have a couple of thoughts that I wanted to share. Firstly, I am not sure that the sentence "Growing up in the rural South inspired Yancy to change the world around her." works best in the lead paragraph. I like the nature of this statement, but I feel like it might be better served in the "Early Life" section of the article, especially as that section is kind of small. The same thing occurs to me for the list that is currently in the lead paragraph of the degrees that she has earned. Does anyone else have any thoughts on these matters?
Secondly, I noticed that in one of the articles that I edited for class, (Not one for the Women in Red project) someone stated that it was bad form to list the names of children. Does anyone know anything about this or why it might be the case? If it is indeed frowned upon, we ought to remove the name of Cowser's daughter. I am unsure about the criteria around this matter, but I thought that this would be the palce to bring it up to see if anyone else knows anything about it. JREubanks ( talk) 23:38, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Thought I would point out that I thought "academe" in the lead paragraph was a typo until I googled it. Would it be better to use "academia" for clarity, since it is a more commonly used synonym? I've also noticed that there are several duplicate wikilinks in the article. I'm under the impression that it's best to only link to a topic the first time it's mentioned, but i may be wrong? - Eswill01 ( talk) 21:34, 03 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello, everyone. Here is my article peer review. I think all of you have a really good start here. Everyone is using the correct tone of voice for Wikipedia and your sources with good as well. One thing that I would suggest is to switch from using bullet points in the accomplishments section to a paragraph. That might help the article flow a little better, but that is just my opinion. Other than that, I think you all have a very good start. KLJordan ( talk) 23:23, 3 November 2020 (UTC)KLJordan
Hi, just wanted to add my article review.
Great work on the article so far! I think it just needs some attention to detail here and there. Hestera nmac3108 ( talk) 05:23, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
I added a source from Clemson University and it got deleted I felt this source was reliable coming from a respectable university and it also included information that I could use in the achievement section this source is from 2020. As a group could we please discuss deletions prior because it takes a lot of effort to to format these sources. Also, I accidentally deleted a list from the awards section. Jayla P ( talk) 20:56, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
I see that a lot of work is still needed in the honors section. I do not think there suppose to be (citation needed) everywhere — Taeeees ( talk) 16:10, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
I am working on finding sources for those. If they can't be found, it is getting deleted. Some of the second paragraph in the lead would also fit better in the early life section if we can source it. C.pinkston ( talk) 18:43, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
I found a citation for one of the items that needed a citation in the honors section, but I am drawing a blank for these others. I move that we go ahead and delete these items that we can't find sources for. What do you all think? JREubanks ( talk) 22:08, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
I am also looking for sources for those, do y’all know what is missing or needed to be added to complete this article?— Taeeees ( talk) 17:46, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
I was working on trying to find sources for the honors section, and I noticed something that needs some attention. Where it says that she won the lifetime achievement award, does anyone know who gave the award to her, what lifetime achievement award it was? That information is necessary to know to search for a source. I feel strongly that the remaining awards/honors without citations should just be deleted. JREubanks ( talk) 00:45, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
I moved some of the lead section into the other areas of the article if anyone is wondering where it went. One of the peer reviews mentions keeping the lead simple and not too repetitive, especially if it can fit in another section. Also please don't forget to add shortened footnotes on the sentences you add (except in the lead section, they don't need citations). It gets tough going back through every source to find one piece of information. C.pinkston ( talk) 20:38, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
I think at this point in time it might be appropriate to start making sure that all of our contributions flow well when reading. I edited early life to achieve this, as it stood out as seeming like our individual contributions were making it choppy when reading. - Eswill01 ( talk) 19:00, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Exciting news, I managed to find some Wikipedia capable/approved pictures for our article! The picture of Yancy took a considerable amount of time to find. I'm unsure: if there is a way to crop into the photo so it may become a portrait, if a group photo is appropriate, or if the location is optimal but it is the only eligible photo that I could find and the info-box felt right for the moment. Cross0023 ( talk) 03:50, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
Congratulation, editors. You have come a long way on this article. I can see by the edits for this week, 11/11–11/17, that you are getting near the end. This is a great place to be, but it makes additional edits even more difficult.
Additions have been made without citations, like this one. How does this happen? Citations in general need to be dealt with. There are currently four big red errors listed in the citations section. These will not fix themselves. What's the issue here?
Be careful with revision. I have noticed that many who try to revise end up adding more words; you should be doing the opposite. Eliminate filler words. Do not add words at this point, but make your prose more economical. Tighter. E.g., is "stepped into the role of" really better than "became"? (Yes, you can still add information, but avoid any revisions where you add awkward phrases or wordiness. Does that make sense?) And, for goodness sake, stop with the honors list—and we have a table now! This huge list seems unnecessary, as it just replicates a list from a source. Could you stick with the most prestigious awards? Cut this way back.
Someone tell me what's wrong with using "Mrs Yancy" in this article? (See Personal life §.) Are education and alma mater both needed in the infobox? There seems to be quite a bit missing from the infobox, too.
There's still a bit of overlinking. Does Ph.D. really need to be linked? Europe? Why not? Time for a major clean-up.
Looking forward to this week, you should be putting the final touches on this article, incorporating Wikipedia:Good article criteria. Keep going! We are nearing the end. — Grlucas ( talk) 15:28, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
I filled in some more of the info box, but I have seen on some pages like Harvard University president's infobox that have his tenures and former jobs separated. I think it would be a nice addition to our page, but had difficulty adding it when following their format and received an error message. C.pinkston ( talk) 22:38, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Editors, one of you could start the process of adding this article to Wikipedia:Did you know. It will have to be published first (all obvious errors fixed), so keep that in mind. Coordinate with me if this is something you'd like to do. — Grlucas ( talk) 14:10, 21 November 2020 (UTC)