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i remember an episode (5th-6th season?) where Amy and Donna were drinking beer in the bullpen late at night when Amy blurted out, "Donna, are you in love with Josh?" I think there was a just a reaction shot from Donna and then it cut to commercial. I suppose that should go in the Josh/Donna relationship as well.
Anyone remember the episode?
It was the episode "Commencement", second last in season 4, the one in which Zoey was kidnapped. Her reaction is one of hesitation; we never got to see if she made a reply. I have edited it into the J/D romance story.
What are other people's feelings on including a link to the Yahoo discussion group?. I know Wikipedia is not a web directory, but I don't feel that that state is approached by adding the most important discussion forum on the subject to the site. Would like to hear other's people's opinions.-- newsjunkie 14:43, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Ok, I have to admit I kind of forgot that you couldn't read the messages if you are not registered. But nevertheless, the "closed-to-guests" situation is a staple of many yahoo groups (most of them?). Neither I or anyone else is forcing anyone to join. All the link would imply is that if this is what you are looking for, this is the probably the most active discussion group you will find on the subject. People can easily join to have a look, and just as easily unjoin if they feel that the group is not for them. -- newsjunkie 15:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Newsjunkie asked if I had an opinion about this as another The West Wing fan and for other reasons... There's some precedent (not exact, the result isn't quite the same) ...since the group associated with a composer of classical music I very much like (whose music I've put a bit of work and time into, but that's off topic) appears in the relevant Wikipedia-page. Sometimes only by joining the group (or a mailing list...) will you learn some news about publications or performances, it's also a members-only-reading Yahoo-group, so it was judged suitable.
If there's a more important page that links to the group, of course, better to link to the webpage and let it link to the group transitively, solving the problem anyway. Can someone point me to a policy or guideline relevant to the external links section (I think I should know this...) ? That would help, anyroad... Schissel : bowl listen 17:59, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
We haven't got the seventh series yet in the UK so possibly there is a new character but am I right in saying that it's meant to be "Leo" and not "Lou" who hired Donna for the Santos/McGarry campaign against Josh's wishes? Arthur Holland 12:27, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
It is Lou. She is a new character in the seventh season.
Rlove
15:02, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
See Louise Thornton.
User:Lucy-marie changed Donna's nationality from "American" to "American/Canadian." The rationale for this was that, in "Dead Irish Writers," Donna learns that her hometown in Wisconsin, which was in the U.S. when she was born, was then moved into Canada. I argue that Donna is still American no matter where her hometown was eventually moved to. She was born in the U.S. and raised as an American in the American culture. She also is very clearly American subsequent to that episode. So, at most, she is Canadian for one epiosde of the 7-season show. (In any case, the whole episode is based on a goof...or dramatic license. The fact that her hometown was in the U.S. at the time she was born makes Donna a natural-born American. They can't retroactively revoke her citizenship just because the town was ceded to Canada sometime after she was born.) So, I think her nationality should be "American" only. Thoughts? -- Hnsampat ( talk) 18:06, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
The fact that Donna has to take a test to reclaim citizenship, is proof that she IS in fact Canadian (if not willingly or knowingly) and if not would be stateless, during the period when she had to take the test and being told she wasn't a US citizen. Being forcibly made stateless is illegal under united states citizenship law. It is only a minor point but a factually accurate point. Another example is Irish hundreds of people are Irish by descent but relatively few claim the citizenship but they are still Irish regardless.-- Lucy-marie ( talk) 21:30, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
The border was set by treaty in the 1800's and did not prove during Donna Moss's lifetime. The issue was that it was resurveyed, and they discovered that the town had always been on the Canadian sign of the border, even though no one knew this until after Donna was born.
If the town had been in the U.S. when she was born, then she would be solely a U.S. citizen. The legal issue was that because the town had actually been in Canada when she was born, she was technically not born in the U.S.
71.109.154.133 ( talk) 04:03, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
In the episode 'angel maintenance' Donna when talking to Josh about 'doing more' says 'also dead Diane Moss'. More research needs to be done into Donna's full name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.9.144.30 ( talk) 15:07, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
The most important thing to remember is that Donna Moss never existed. While a discussion occurred and a decision made to keep the article itself, that does not mean editors can throw in anything about this completely fictional person on a TV show about other non-existent people. The only sources listed are other Wikipedia articles describing episodes of this fictional series. Most of the article as it stands are paragraphs without any sources, because there can be few, if any, reliable sources about a TV character. Material without reliable sources must be removed - this is standard Wikipedia policy. See also: Wikipedia guidelines on notability, in-universe and indiscriminate information. Catherinejarvis ( talk) 17:03, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Strictly speaking, the statement that the "Minnesota town in which she was born ended up in Canada due to border changes" is incorrect.
The border was not changed. What happened was that they discovered the town was in Canada, and had always been in Canada, but no one had known this, because the original border survey was not very accurate. 71.109.154.133 ( talk) 04:05, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
This section needs to be updated to include their eventual romantic relationship in the final seasion. -- ZimZalaBim talk 01:31, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
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i remember an episode (5th-6th season?) where Amy and Donna were drinking beer in the bullpen late at night when Amy blurted out, "Donna, are you in love with Josh?" I think there was a just a reaction shot from Donna and then it cut to commercial. I suppose that should go in the Josh/Donna relationship as well.
Anyone remember the episode?
It was the episode "Commencement", second last in season 4, the one in which Zoey was kidnapped. Her reaction is one of hesitation; we never got to see if she made a reply. I have edited it into the J/D romance story.
What are other people's feelings on including a link to the Yahoo discussion group?. I know Wikipedia is not a web directory, but I don't feel that that state is approached by adding the most important discussion forum on the subject to the site. Would like to hear other's people's opinions.-- newsjunkie 14:43, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Ok, I have to admit I kind of forgot that you couldn't read the messages if you are not registered. But nevertheless, the "closed-to-guests" situation is a staple of many yahoo groups (most of them?). Neither I or anyone else is forcing anyone to join. All the link would imply is that if this is what you are looking for, this is the probably the most active discussion group you will find on the subject. People can easily join to have a look, and just as easily unjoin if they feel that the group is not for them. -- newsjunkie 15:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Newsjunkie asked if I had an opinion about this as another The West Wing fan and for other reasons... There's some precedent (not exact, the result isn't quite the same) ...since the group associated with a composer of classical music I very much like (whose music I've put a bit of work and time into, but that's off topic) appears in the relevant Wikipedia-page. Sometimes only by joining the group (or a mailing list...) will you learn some news about publications or performances, it's also a members-only-reading Yahoo-group, so it was judged suitable.
If there's a more important page that links to the group, of course, better to link to the webpage and let it link to the group transitively, solving the problem anyway. Can someone point me to a policy or guideline relevant to the external links section (I think I should know this...) ? That would help, anyroad... Schissel : bowl listen 17:59, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
We haven't got the seventh series yet in the UK so possibly there is a new character but am I right in saying that it's meant to be "Leo" and not "Lou" who hired Donna for the Santos/McGarry campaign against Josh's wishes? Arthur Holland 12:27, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
It is Lou. She is a new character in the seventh season.
Rlove
15:02, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
See Louise Thornton.
User:Lucy-marie changed Donna's nationality from "American" to "American/Canadian." The rationale for this was that, in "Dead Irish Writers," Donna learns that her hometown in Wisconsin, which was in the U.S. when she was born, was then moved into Canada. I argue that Donna is still American no matter where her hometown was eventually moved to. She was born in the U.S. and raised as an American in the American culture. She also is very clearly American subsequent to that episode. So, at most, she is Canadian for one epiosde of the 7-season show. (In any case, the whole episode is based on a goof...or dramatic license. The fact that her hometown was in the U.S. at the time she was born makes Donna a natural-born American. They can't retroactively revoke her citizenship just because the town was ceded to Canada sometime after she was born.) So, I think her nationality should be "American" only. Thoughts? -- Hnsampat ( talk) 18:06, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
The fact that Donna has to take a test to reclaim citizenship, is proof that she IS in fact Canadian (if not willingly or knowingly) and if not would be stateless, during the period when she had to take the test and being told she wasn't a US citizen. Being forcibly made stateless is illegal under united states citizenship law. It is only a minor point but a factually accurate point. Another example is Irish hundreds of people are Irish by descent but relatively few claim the citizenship but they are still Irish regardless.-- Lucy-marie ( talk) 21:30, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
The border was set by treaty in the 1800's and did not prove during Donna Moss's lifetime. The issue was that it was resurveyed, and they discovered that the town had always been on the Canadian sign of the border, even though no one knew this until after Donna was born.
If the town had been in the U.S. when she was born, then she would be solely a U.S. citizen. The legal issue was that because the town had actually been in Canada when she was born, she was technically not born in the U.S.
71.109.154.133 ( talk) 04:03, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
In the episode 'angel maintenance' Donna when talking to Josh about 'doing more' says 'also dead Diane Moss'. More research needs to be done into Donna's full name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.9.144.30 ( talk) 15:07, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
The most important thing to remember is that Donna Moss never existed. While a discussion occurred and a decision made to keep the article itself, that does not mean editors can throw in anything about this completely fictional person on a TV show about other non-existent people. The only sources listed are other Wikipedia articles describing episodes of this fictional series. Most of the article as it stands are paragraphs without any sources, because there can be few, if any, reliable sources about a TV character. Material without reliable sources must be removed - this is standard Wikipedia policy. See also: Wikipedia guidelines on notability, in-universe and indiscriminate information. Catherinejarvis ( talk) 17:03, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Strictly speaking, the statement that the "Minnesota town in which she was born ended up in Canada due to border changes" is incorrect.
The border was not changed. What happened was that they discovered the town was in Canada, and had always been in Canada, but no one had known this, because the original border survey was not very accurate. 71.109.154.133 ( talk) 04:05, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
This section needs to be updated to include their eventual romantic relationship in the final seasion. -- ZimZalaBim talk 01:31, 28 May 2020 (UTC)