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I put up an "expand" tag based on the fact that this article has very little material on Hughes biography or academic work, but a great deal on controversies she's been involved in over the last two years. This creates a problem with undue weight in this article. The solution is not to get rid of this material, as it is notable and verifiable, but rather start adding the needed biographical and academic summary info. Iamcuriousblue ( talk) 04:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
(Undenting) Since the Expand tag was moved to Academics, I decided to look into Hughes' academic publications. However, Hughes' academic work is the basis for an enormous amount of activism (both by her and by others), so I fear most of the material I'm finding is not so easily demarcated as "Academics" or "Activism and views," especially as the methodologies she uses in her academic work are questioned by others in her field (see, e.g., Ronald Weitzer) but are used as the basis of activism by others (see, e.g., Melissa Farley, and this book). I wonder if an "Expand" tag should also be placed on the Donna M. Hughes#Activism and views section? In any event, a recurring theme in Ms. Hughes' academic publications is what she calls "the demand side" of the sex industry. She has published at least three pieces about this topic: Best Practices to Address the Demand Side of Sex Trafficking, The Demand for Victims of Sex Trafficking, and Men Create the Demand; Women are the Supply. She also speaks about this "demand side." Here's a PowerPoint slideshow called "Reducing Demand for Victims of Sex Trafficking in U.S.", and here's an hour-long video speech she gave on that topic. As you can see from the material, her activism and her academic work are extraordinarily intertwined and heavily focus on this "demand side." Again, I'm not sure how to best integrate these findings into the article, but I do think these sources are germane to the request for expansion. Good luck! -- Meitar ( talk) 01:11, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
I've taken the step of reverting several large-scale removals of content by User:EconProfessor. These seem to be wholesale removal of sourced content that may be viewed as critical to Donna Hughes. I feel this is frankly being done for POV reasons. I am sensitive to POV concerns and would like this article to remain NPOV, while at the same time, not shying away from controversies Hughes may have been involved in.
I also need to bring up the issue of conflict of interest. I strongly suspect User:EconProfessor to be an academic ally, maybe even co-author on Donna M. Hughes writings, and I think EconProfessor needs to be open about this if this is in fact the case. Others who have edited here may include individuals personally attacked by Hughes, and that also needs to clarified. All of these present conflict of interest issues and great caution needs to be exercised in just what these individuals contribute to this article. Iamcuriousblue ( talk) 19:11, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
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The Donna M. Hughes BLP is not currently NPOV. The people who have constructed this page oppose her work or views. I am attempting to make this page NPOV. That requires removing a number of unsourced statements and false allegations about Professor Donna Hughes, and correcting factual errors.
I am not engaging in the wholesale removal of content. I am reviewing individual statements, one at a time, to be sure the information is correct and documented according to Wikipedia policies. This is important work because it is a BLP.
For example, the statement regarding the content of footnote 13 is incorrect. The Wikipedia description says “Several Rhode Island State Senators wrote editorials disputing Hughes claim that they had kept indoor prostitution legal...” However, if you read the June 25 article in footnote 13, there is absolutely no mention of Professor Hughes. It merely describes the passage of the Senate bill and so therefore it does not belong on Professor Hughes' page. The associated incorrect statement about the content of this editorial needs to be removed as well. Also, the Levesque editorial in footnote 14 is an opinion piece and not a factual reliable news source. If it ends up remaining, then other editorials that were written in support of Professor Hughes’s position need to be included too. Professor Hughes’ page is not NPOV if only editorials that disagree with her position are allowed to be posted. Balance requires both sides be told, or neither.
The bio statement that Professor Hughes was raised on a farm is unsourced. Either a link to a reliable source for this information should be provided, or the statement should be deleted.
The entire discussion regarding the CSPH and its zoning approval process should be removed from Professor Hughes' page. The CSPH is not related to prostitution legislation in Rhode Island, and furthermore there are no facts or sources to support the accusation on this page that Professor Hughes caused the delay in the opening of the Center. Multiple news sources indicate that the reason Ms. Andelloux was initially turned down from opening her center was because the building was not zoned for educational uses. When Ms. Andelloux applied for a special-use permit several months later, the Zoning Board approved her application. These are the documented facts regarding the CSPH zoning process. All negative insinuations and speculations against Professor Hughes should be removed. The discussions about any Pawtucket zoning hurdles Ms. Andelloux may have faced in opening her center should be confined to Andelloux’s own Wikipedia page, with verifiable sources.
I choose to write under an anonymous username and that is my right. I object to your insinuations and speculative attempt to expose my identity. Wikipedia conflict of interest is explained as follows: "You are strongly discouraged from writing articles about yourself or organisations (including their campaigns, clients, products and services) in which you hold a vested interest." The Donna M. Hughes Wikipedia article is about a living person, not an organization. In addition, an example of a vested interest would be if an editor tried to promote her for-profit DVD on other people’s Wikipedia pages. I can assure you I am not promoting any commercial products or services. Also I can tell you I am not Donna Hughes. Whether I know or have worked with Donna Hughes is irrelevant. Wikipedia editors write about what they know; it would be a pretty bad encyclopedia if editors could only write about topics or people they do not know.
I do not wish to engage in an edit war with you or anyone else, but I will speak up for the truth. If you are serious about improving and expanding this article, then you should welcome my contributions. EconProfessor ( talk) 12:56, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
This is at least the second time I've seen User:EconProfessor challenge or remove sourced content under the erroneous contention that the material is "unsourced". Unfortunately, it seems this editor does not seem to recognize that a reference might be found at the end of several sentences or even at the end of a paragraph. If there is clear reason to believe the reference does not in fact support the statement, or that its a source that clearly does not rise to WP:VERIFY, then by all means, challenge it as unsourced. But flagrantly ignoring references and claiming lack of sources as reason for removal is not a sign of good faith.
BTW, if there are sources where Hughes has rebutted the claims made by Andelloux and her supporters (even on a personal page of hers), please add this or let me know about the source, because that material should also be included in the article. Iamcuriousblue ( talk) 19:13, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
It seems that the above #Edit war (?) involving User:EconProfessor isn't ending. Moreover, User:EconProfessor is now removing sourced content wholesale without discussion. This is simply the latest example of POV editing I've observed on this article, as I've been watching and researching it, but avoiding controversial edits myself. I'm concerned that User:EconProfessor has a conflict of interest and isn't being upfront about it.
In any event, I'd like to offer whatever knowledge and sources I can to help avoid more POV edits in the future. To that end, I'll be carefully editing this article, mostly for reference clarity. I'd also appreciate help from other Wikipedians with regards to vetting some of the references, possibly adding them to the article after I suggest them, here.
On that note, after carefully re-reading several of the existing sources, I was able to find more evidence of Donna M. Hughes' involvement in the controversy in question. First, Female Sexologist Awaits Pawtucket Zoning Board, a reference from the Megan Andelloux article, mentions Donna M. Hughes' involvement by name, but I don't see that source referenced from this article. I think it should be added. Second, I found another publication not mentioned on either article that is entirely about Donna M. Hughes' personal attacks against Ms. Andelloux when Ms. Hughes went on the radio to discuss the controversy herself.
Donna M. Hughes's involvement in this controversy is well-documented and I believe it should stay in this article. I'd be grateful if more Wikipedians could help monitor User:EconProfessor's POV edits. Thank you. -- Meitar ( talk) 19:04, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Yet. Again. I'd appreciate it if someone reverted these edits back to this version immediately. User:EconProfessor needs to discuss these edits or simply stop editing. This is tiresome. -- Meitar ( talk) 21:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Once again,
User:EconProfessor has insisted on wholesale removal of sourced content because it apparently conflicts with her opinion of Donna Hughes. EconProf summarizes the edit as follows:
Sorry, but just because it may reflect negatively on Donna Hughes does not in itself make mention of the incident POV. The sourced articles clearly state that negative attention was brought to Megan Andelloux and the CSPH through the efforts of Donna Hughes. A zoning battle over the CSPH immediately followed, and the zoning issues may or may not have had their own merits. The degree to which Donna Hughes emails and negative publicity played a role is a matter of argument, and I have be quite careful to preface the statement with "Supporters of Andelloux claim..." If there is a way of perhaps rewording the language of the paragraph or introducing more sources to move this paragraph toward one which EconProf feels is more NPOV, I'm open to it. However, I will continue to revert wholesale removal of this paragraph.
I will also note that User:EconProfessor is no longer even discussing edits or contributing positively to the article, but simply reverting content that offends them. User:EconProfessor has not addressed the question as to whether this editor is, in fact, Margaret Brooks of Citizens Against Trafficking and co-author of several of the bulletins mentioned and cited in the paragraph EconProf insists on removing. Unless I learn otherwise, I'm going to be forced to assume that this is the case and that the removal of this content represents astroturfing by Citizens Against Trafficking. Iamcuriousblue ( talk) 23:12, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
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As I explained before, I am attempting to verify all sources for statements made on the Donna M. Hughes page, which was largely created by Iamcuriousblue. In my opinion, it is currently not NPOV and there are a number of unsourced statements. This a BLP and the accuracy of statements is critical. I have been civil and polite. I've given specific reasons for every edit I've made. I have already addressed the COI issue, and I object to the continued personal attacks that seem to be directed at me on this Talk page.
In addition, I do not agree with the "warning" GiselleRI sent me today, and with the threat she is making here of blocking me from making future edits. I gave an in-line explanation when I removed the reference to the Happy Endings DVD today. In fact, it was Iamcuriousblue who first pointed out the Happy Endings DVD does not belong on the Donna M. Hughes page. He was the first one to remove that sentence/link yesterday, and GiselleRI reverted his edit, as well as mine.
Using "Supporters claim" to launch into an unsourced attack on a person is unacceptable, especially on a BLP page. And to my knowledge, not one reliable source has described Donna M. Hughes as an "instigator." This is untrue and unsourced speculation. EconProfessor ( talk) 01:13, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
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Iamcuriousblue: I appreciate your acknowledgement that contributions made by EconProfessor have helped to improve this page. Thank you.
I have stated several times that I do not have a COI, and that I do not wish to identify myself by real name. I ask that the editors on this page respect my stated position and accept that I am making edits in good faith. As you know, many Wikipedia editors choose to write under anonymous usernames. Suspicions and accusations that are directed at me personally tend to squash meaningful content discussions on the Talk page.
We should move forward and work to improve the content of this page. We may not hold the same points of view as individuals, but our collective goal should be to produce a bio page for Donna M. Hughes that is accurate and presents NPOV.
The discussion on this page regarding the Happy Endings DVD seems to be completed. I feel we should now go ahead and remove it.
I will review the paragraph in question and see if there are wording changes that can be made to improve it. EconProfessor ( talk) 15:32, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
I think the article on Mel Gibson#Personal_life can serve as worthwhile template on how to cover an individual who's unfortunate remarks become part of the public record, in the context of a WP:BLP article. Iamcuriousblue ( talk) 22:43, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
It looks like User:Iamcuriousblue has removed the reference to Happy Endings?, a documentary about prostitution in Rhode Island in which Donna M. Hughes expresses her views about the issue. It seems User:Iamcuriousblue's understanding is that the reference is WP:LINKSPAM but, unless I'm misreading the linkspam guidelines, it doesn't strike me as such. Maybe rather than remove it, it should be moved to the Donna M. Hughes#Activism and views section, where it may make more sense? It seems to me that a filmed interview with Hughes in which she speaks about her views would be a pretty good reference for people looking to hear her views, y'know? -- Meitar ( talk) 06:44, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
(Undenting) The discussion of whether or not to include reference to the
Happy Endings? DVD is ongoing on
the film's talk page, although
I think it should most definitely be included here. In the mean time, I offer this transcription of Donna M. Hughes' appearances in the film. All of these statements can be considered
WP:RS (citing the Happy Endings? film itself as a source) since the statements are by Hughes, herself. Please integrate as appropriate:
-- Meitar ( talk) 10:09, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
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I put up an "expand" tag based on the fact that this article has very little material on Hughes biography or academic work, but a great deal on controversies she's been involved in over the last two years. This creates a problem with undue weight in this article. The solution is not to get rid of this material, as it is notable and verifiable, but rather start adding the needed biographical and academic summary info. Iamcuriousblue ( talk) 04:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
(Undenting) Since the Expand tag was moved to Academics, I decided to look into Hughes' academic publications. However, Hughes' academic work is the basis for an enormous amount of activism (both by her and by others), so I fear most of the material I'm finding is not so easily demarcated as "Academics" or "Activism and views," especially as the methodologies she uses in her academic work are questioned by others in her field (see, e.g., Ronald Weitzer) but are used as the basis of activism by others (see, e.g., Melissa Farley, and this book). I wonder if an "Expand" tag should also be placed on the Donna M. Hughes#Activism and views section? In any event, a recurring theme in Ms. Hughes' academic publications is what she calls "the demand side" of the sex industry. She has published at least three pieces about this topic: Best Practices to Address the Demand Side of Sex Trafficking, The Demand for Victims of Sex Trafficking, and Men Create the Demand; Women are the Supply. She also speaks about this "demand side." Here's a PowerPoint slideshow called "Reducing Demand for Victims of Sex Trafficking in U.S.", and here's an hour-long video speech she gave on that topic. As you can see from the material, her activism and her academic work are extraordinarily intertwined and heavily focus on this "demand side." Again, I'm not sure how to best integrate these findings into the article, but I do think these sources are germane to the request for expansion. Good luck! -- Meitar ( talk) 01:11, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
I've taken the step of reverting several large-scale removals of content by User:EconProfessor. These seem to be wholesale removal of sourced content that may be viewed as critical to Donna Hughes. I feel this is frankly being done for POV reasons. I am sensitive to POV concerns and would like this article to remain NPOV, while at the same time, not shying away from controversies Hughes may have been involved in.
I also need to bring up the issue of conflict of interest. I strongly suspect User:EconProfessor to be an academic ally, maybe even co-author on Donna M. Hughes writings, and I think EconProfessor needs to be open about this if this is in fact the case. Others who have edited here may include individuals personally attacked by Hughes, and that also needs to clarified. All of these present conflict of interest issues and great caution needs to be exercised in just what these individuals contribute to this article. Iamcuriousblue ( talk) 19:11, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
__________________________________________
The Donna M. Hughes BLP is not currently NPOV. The people who have constructed this page oppose her work or views. I am attempting to make this page NPOV. That requires removing a number of unsourced statements and false allegations about Professor Donna Hughes, and correcting factual errors.
I am not engaging in the wholesale removal of content. I am reviewing individual statements, one at a time, to be sure the information is correct and documented according to Wikipedia policies. This is important work because it is a BLP.
For example, the statement regarding the content of footnote 13 is incorrect. The Wikipedia description says “Several Rhode Island State Senators wrote editorials disputing Hughes claim that they had kept indoor prostitution legal...” However, if you read the June 25 article in footnote 13, there is absolutely no mention of Professor Hughes. It merely describes the passage of the Senate bill and so therefore it does not belong on Professor Hughes' page. The associated incorrect statement about the content of this editorial needs to be removed as well. Also, the Levesque editorial in footnote 14 is an opinion piece and not a factual reliable news source. If it ends up remaining, then other editorials that were written in support of Professor Hughes’s position need to be included too. Professor Hughes’ page is not NPOV if only editorials that disagree with her position are allowed to be posted. Balance requires both sides be told, or neither.
The bio statement that Professor Hughes was raised on a farm is unsourced. Either a link to a reliable source for this information should be provided, or the statement should be deleted.
The entire discussion regarding the CSPH and its zoning approval process should be removed from Professor Hughes' page. The CSPH is not related to prostitution legislation in Rhode Island, and furthermore there are no facts or sources to support the accusation on this page that Professor Hughes caused the delay in the opening of the Center. Multiple news sources indicate that the reason Ms. Andelloux was initially turned down from opening her center was because the building was not zoned for educational uses. When Ms. Andelloux applied for a special-use permit several months later, the Zoning Board approved her application. These are the documented facts regarding the CSPH zoning process. All negative insinuations and speculations against Professor Hughes should be removed. The discussions about any Pawtucket zoning hurdles Ms. Andelloux may have faced in opening her center should be confined to Andelloux’s own Wikipedia page, with verifiable sources.
I choose to write under an anonymous username and that is my right. I object to your insinuations and speculative attempt to expose my identity. Wikipedia conflict of interest is explained as follows: "You are strongly discouraged from writing articles about yourself or organisations (including their campaigns, clients, products and services) in which you hold a vested interest." The Donna M. Hughes Wikipedia article is about a living person, not an organization. In addition, an example of a vested interest would be if an editor tried to promote her for-profit DVD on other people’s Wikipedia pages. I can assure you I am not promoting any commercial products or services. Also I can tell you I am not Donna Hughes. Whether I know or have worked with Donna Hughes is irrelevant. Wikipedia editors write about what they know; it would be a pretty bad encyclopedia if editors could only write about topics or people they do not know.
I do not wish to engage in an edit war with you or anyone else, but I will speak up for the truth. If you are serious about improving and expanding this article, then you should welcome my contributions. EconProfessor ( talk) 12:56, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
This is at least the second time I've seen User:EconProfessor challenge or remove sourced content under the erroneous contention that the material is "unsourced". Unfortunately, it seems this editor does not seem to recognize that a reference might be found at the end of several sentences or even at the end of a paragraph. If there is clear reason to believe the reference does not in fact support the statement, or that its a source that clearly does not rise to WP:VERIFY, then by all means, challenge it as unsourced. But flagrantly ignoring references and claiming lack of sources as reason for removal is not a sign of good faith.
BTW, if there are sources where Hughes has rebutted the claims made by Andelloux and her supporters (even on a personal page of hers), please add this or let me know about the source, because that material should also be included in the article. Iamcuriousblue ( talk) 19:13, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
It seems that the above #Edit war (?) involving User:EconProfessor isn't ending. Moreover, User:EconProfessor is now removing sourced content wholesale without discussion. This is simply the latest example of POV editing I've observed on this article, as I've been watching and researching it, but avoiding controversial edits myself. I'm concerned that User:EconProfessor has a conflict of interest and isn't being upfront about it.
In any event, I'd like to offer whatever knowledge and sources I can to help avoid more POV edits in the future. To that end, I'll be carefully editing this article, mostly for reference clarity. I'd also appreciate help from other Wikipedians with regards to vetting some of the references, possibly adding them to the article after I suggest them, here.
On that note, after carefully re-reading several of the existing sources, I was able to find more evidence of Donna M. Hughes' involvement in the controversy in question. First, Female Sexologist Awaits Pawtucket Zoning Board, a reference from the Megan Andelloux article, mentions Donna M. Hughes' involvement by name, but I don't see that source referenced from this article. I think it should be added. Second, I found another publication not mentioned on either article that is entirely about Donna M. Hughes' personal attacks against Ms. Andelloux when Ms. Hughes went on the radio to discuss the controversy herself.
Donna M. Hughes's involvement in this controversy is well-documented and I believe it should stay in this article. I'd be grateful if more Wikipedians could help monitor User:EconProfessor's POV edits. Thank you. -- Meitar ( talk) 19:04, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Yet. Again. I'd appreciate it if someone reverted these edits back to this version immediately. User:EconProfessor needs to discuss these edits or simply stop editing. This is tiresome. -- Meitar ( talk) 21:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Once again,
User:EconProfessor has insisted on wholesale removal of sourced content because it apparently conflicts with her opinion of Donna Hughes. EconProf summarizes the edit as follows:
Sorry, but just because it may reflect negatively on Donna Hughes does not in itself make mention of the incident POV. The sourced articles clearly state that negative attention was brought to Megan Andelloux and the CSPH through the efforts of Donna Hughes. A zoning battle over the CSPH immediately followed, and the zoning issues may or may not have had their own merits. The degree to which Donna Hughes emails and negative publicity played a role is a matter of argument, and I have be quite careful to preface the statement with "Supporters of Andelloux claim..." If there is a way of perhaps rewording the language of the paragraph or introducing more sources to move this paragraph toward one which EconProf feels is more NPOV, I'm open to it. However, I will continue to revert wholesale removal of this paragraph.
I will also note that User:EconProfessor is no longer even discussing edits or contributing positively to the article, but simply reverting content that offends them. User:EconProfessor has not addressed the question as to whether this editor is, in fact, Margaret Brooks of Citizens Against Trafficking and co-author of several of the bulletins mentioned and cited in the paragraph EconProf insists on removing. Unless I learn otherwise, I'm going to be forced to assume that this is the case and that the removal of this content represents astroturfing by Citizens Against Trafficking. Iamcuriousblue ( talk) 23:12, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
____________________________________________
As I explained before, I am attempting to verify all sources for statements made on the Donna M. Hughes page, which was largely created by Iamcuriousblue. In my opinion, it is currently not NPOV and there are a number of unsourced statements. This a BLP and the accuracy of statements is critical. I have been civil and polite. I've given specific reasons for every edit I've made. I have already addressed the COI issue, and I object to the continued personal attacks that seem to be directed at me on this Talk page.
In addition, I do not agree with the "warning" GiselleRI sent me today, and with the threat she is making here of blocking me from making future edits. I gave an in-line explanation when I removed the reference to the Happy Endings DVD today. In fact, it was Iamcuriousblue who first pointed out the Happy Endings DVD does not belong on the Donna M. Hughes page. He was the first one to remove that sentence/link yesterday, and GiselleRI reverted his edit, as well as mine.
Using "Supporters claim" to launch into an unsourced attack on a person is unacceptable, especially on a BLP page. And to my knowledge, not one reliable source has described Donna M. Hughes as an "instigator." This is untrue and unsourced speculation. EconProfessor ( talk) 01:13, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
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Iamcuriousblue: I appreciate your acknowledgement that contributions made by EconProfessor have helped to improve this page. Thank you.
I have stated several times that I do not have a COI, and that I do not wish to identify myself by real name. I ask that the editors on this page respect my stated position and accept that I am making edits in good faith. As you know, many Wikipedia editors choose to write under anonymous usernames. Suspicions and accusations that are directed at me personally tend to squash meaningful content discussions on the Talk page.
We should move forward and work to improve the content of this page. We may not hold the same points of view as individuals, but our collective goal should be to produce a bio page for Donna M. Hughes that is accurate and presents NPOV.
The discussion on this page regarding the Happy Endings DVD seems to be completed. I feel we should now go ahead and remove it.
I will review the paragraph in question and see if there are wording changes that can be made to improve it. EconProfessor ( talk) 15:32, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
I think the article on Mel Gibson#Personal_life can serve as worthwhile template on how to cover an individual who's unfortunate remarks become part of the public record, in the context of a WP:BLP article. Iamcuriousblue ( talk) 22:43, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
It looks like User:Iamcuriousblue has removed the reference to Happy Endings?, a documentary about prostitution in Rhode Island in which Donna M. Hughes expresses her views about the issue. It seems User:Iamcuriousblue's understanding is that the reference is WP:LINKSPAM but, unless I'm misreading the linkspam guidelines, it doesn't strike me as such. Maybe rather than remove it, it should be moved to the Donna M. Hughes#Activism and views section, where it may make more sense? It seems to me that a filmed interview with Hughes in which she speaks about her views would be a pretty good reference for people looking to hear her views, y'know? -- Meitar ( talk) 06:44, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
(Undenting) The discussion of whether or not to include reference to the
Happy Endings? DVD is ongoing on
the film's talk page, although
I think it should most definitely be included here. In the mean time, I offer this transcription of Donna M. Hughes' appearances in the film. All of these statements can be considered
WP:RS (citing the Happy Endings? film itself as a source) since the statements are by Hughes, herself. Please integrate as appropriate:
-- Meitar ( talk) 10:09, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
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Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 22:03, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
hello fellow wikipedians!
there's a list of honors received, uncited, that needs trim or source.
please re-add correctly, Saintstephen000 ( talk) Saintstephen000 ( talk) 00:28, 14 April 2023 (UTC)