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Why did Ebsary serve only one year for manslaughter when Marshall received a life sentence for the very same crime? Were there mitigating cirumstances for Ebsary? Doubts about self-defense led to a hung jury in his first (of three trials). [1] If self-defense was true, it needs to be mentioned in this article. Marshall may have been not guilty of murdering Seale but have done more than "intend to rob" as the article now states. 75.41.110.200 ( talk) 19:05, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
On the CBC radio program As It Happens last night retired Chief Justice Hickman (Nova Scotia), who did the Royal Commission, said the commission was unable to find any evidence to support the claim that Marshall was committing a robbery at the time of the murder. He seemed to be saying that this was not the case at all, giving the impression that someone in the justice system made that up entirely. As cited in the article, the Aug6 NYTimes report of Marshall's death claims Marshall and Seale were trying to rob Ebsary and Ebsary pulled a knife killing Seale. How can these be reconciled? -- KenWalker | Talk 14:37, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
In this edit I moved the NYTimes reference up one paragraph to source fact in those paragraphs and removed citation needed flags there as the article does support those challenged facts. I restored the fact flag to the claim that the defence also has a duty to share evidence. I see now that the article cited actually does say that. The New York Times article repeats the claim that Marshall and Seale were robbing Ebsary at the time Ebsary killed Seale. The Hickman report (see above) says that Seale and Marshall were panhandling. Some further source besides the NYT should be found for the claim that the defence has a duty to disclose evidence in a criminal proceeding as that seems highly unlikely. I have raised the question at the WP -- KenWalker | Talk 15:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
This edit changes the key event this article altogether. If there is more than one version of what happened, rather than just having the article say what someone anonymous likes best, we should set out the different versions and their sources. If there was a source for the change cited I would not revert it but the lack of source and the fact the anon editor offers no explanation makes me think it should be reverted so I will do that now. -- KenWalker | Talk 21:39, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
it repeats and adopts as true many of the racist memes that dogged Marshall after his release from prison and subsequent exoneration. 199.188.175.232 ( talk) 16:58, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
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Why did Ebsary serve only one year for manslaughter when Marshall received a life sentence for the very same crime? Were there mitigating cirumstances for Ebsary? Doubts about self-defense led to a hung jury in his first (of three trials). [1] If self-defense was true, it needs to be mentioned in this article. Marshall may have been not guilty of murdering Seale but have done more than "intend to rob" as the article now states. 75.41.110.200 ( talk) 19:05, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
On the CBC radio program As It Happens last night retired Chief Justice Hickman (Nova Scotia), who did the Royal Commission, said the commission was unable to find any evidence to support the claim that Marshall was committing a robbery at the time of the murder. He seemed to be saying that this was not the case at all, giving the impression that someone in the justice system made that up entirely. As cited in the article, the Aug6 NYTimes report of Marshall's death claims Marshall and Seale were trying to rob Ebsary and Ebsary pulled a knife killing Seale. How can these be reconciled? -- KenWalker | Talk 14:37, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
In this edit I moved the NYTimes reference up one paragraph to source fact in those paragraphs and removed citation needed flags there as the article does support those challenged facts. I restored the fact flag to the claim that the defence also has a duty to share evidence. I see now that the article cited actually does say that. The New York Times article repeats the claim that Marshall and Seale were robbing Ebsary at the time Ebsary killed Seale. The Hickman report (see above) says that Seale and Marshall were panhandling. Some further source besides the NYT should be found for the claim that the defence has a duty to disclose evidence in a criminal proceeding as that seems highly unlikely. I have raised the question at the WP -- KenWalker | Talk 15:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
This edit changes the key event this article altogether. If there is more than one version of what happened, rather than just having the article say what someone anonymous likes best, we should set out the different versions and their sources. If there was a source for the change cited I would not revert it but the lack of source and the fact the anon editor offers no explanation makes me think it should be reverted so I will do that now. -- KenWalker | Talk 21:39, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
it repeats and adopts as true many of the racist memes that dogged Marshall after his release from prison and subsequent exoneration. 199.188.175.232 ( talk) 16:58, 9 March 2022 (UTC)