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I see this has been reverted to "citation needed" again. A Knight who says Ni says that the citation did not mention Don alfonso. It does. Right at the bottom of the page on IMDb. Also the Leonard Rossiter page shows a photo of Larry Martyn who is quite obviously the actor in the DA film. There was no citation for Andrew Sachs, who looks nothing like the actor in the film, yet that didn't stop Knight from reverting it from Larry Martyn on a previous occasion and suggesting it was vandalism, when someone else had changed it to Martyn (though admittedly the previous contributor misspelt Martyn as "Martin"). I wonder why some editors accept the wrong information without citation and then dismiss the correct information when it IS cited? 78.147.98.237 ( talk) 17:37, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Re Refs are not good enough. Well, why haven't you removed refs 1, 2 and 3 then? You mean a photograph of the actual actor is not good enough? I think this article could do with a tag or two.-
78.147.98.237 (
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For those who would like to see a photo of the actor, Larry Martyn, just put his name into Google Image search and his photo is currently the first, there, or try Leonard Rossiter.com and click on Rising Damp and then Supporting cast under cast and characters. You'll find Larry about 3/4 of the way down in alphabetical order of surnames. 78.147.98.237 ( talk) 20:13, 19 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.98.237 ( talk) 20:09, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
So how come Andrew Sachs was there for 6 months without any verification when he is clearly not the actor in question and Martyn's photo proves he is the actor, not who I "think" is the actor? 78.147.98.237 ( talk) 21:35, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
So you didn't try the simplest option that I suggested then, which was to put Larry Martyn into Google image search? Put it this way: if the film were CCTV footage of a crime, the photo would be sufficient to identify the person in the footage to lead to a conviction. If you really do want to see this verified then just look at the photo. I found it easily enough.-- 89.243.103.211 ( talk) 11:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
It still strikes me as absolutely laughable that the pompous "knight who says Ni" still hasn't acknowledged that the actor in the video is Larry Martyn. Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopaedia! I came here originally to find the actor's name only to find that this article had Andrew Sachs as the actor even though he bears no resemblance! Knight who says ni: You're nearly a laugh but you're really a cry — Preceding
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78.147.146.205 (
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Should this actually be in the Songs written by Mike Oldfield category, considering it is only arranged by Oldfield? TubularWorld ( talk) 19:43, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
An appallingly written article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.25.9.83 ( talk) 02:05, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
I disagree with SunCreator's tagging of the entire article for "needs citations" and "may not meet notability". I think it satisfies both, and suspect the tag was added because he thinks the synopsis of the music video is too trivia-like. Looking at the rest of the article, it's adequately cited and contains a lot of information about the song's history, and being a music hall standard, it does have a significant history. I've never seen an article threatened for deletion because of an extra section added. Does SunCreator agree that if the video synopsis were to be removed, the article would be in good shape? If so, does he have any suggestions as to how this section could be improved, rather than removed? I realize it is different in tone from the earlier sections, but I don't think it's too different from a typical synopsis on Wikipedia, and articles with these sections are not usually challenged just for having a synopsis. -- A Knight Who Says Ni ( talk) 22:56, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
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I see this has been reverted to "citation needed" again. A Knight who says Ni says that the citation did not mention Don alfonso. It does. Right at the bottom of the page on IMDb. Also the Leonard Rossiter page shows a photo of Larry Martyn who is quite obviously the actor in the DA film. There was no citation for Andrew Sachs, who looks nothing like the actor in the film, yet that didn't stop Knight from reverting it from Larry Martyn on a previous occasion and suggesting it was vandalism, when someone else had changed it to Martyn (though admittedly the previous contributor misspelt Martyn as "Martin"). I wonder why some editors accept the wrong information without citation and then dismiss the correct information when it IS cited? 78.147.98.237 ( talk) 17:37, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Re Refs are not good enough. Well, why haven't you removed refs 1, 2 and 3 then? You mean a photograph of the actual actor is not good enough? I think this article could do with a tag or two.-
78.147.98.237 (
talk) 20:02, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
For those who would like to see a photo of the actor, Larry Martyn, just put his name into Google Image search and his photo is currently the first, there, or try Leonard Rossiter.com and click on Rising Damp and then Supporting cast under cast and characters. You'll find Larry about 3/4 of the way down in alphabetical order of surnames. 78.147.98.237 ( talk) 20:13, 19 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.98.237 ( talk) 20:09, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
So how come Andrew Sachs was there for 6 months without any verification when he is clearly not the actor in question and Martyn's photo proves he is the actor, not who I "think" is the actor? 78.147.98.237 ( talk) 21:35, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
So you didn't try the simplest option that I suggested then, which was to put Larry Martyn into Google image search? Put it this way: if the film were CCTV footage of a crime, the photo would be sufficient to identify the person in the footage to lead to a conviction. If you really do want to see this verified then just look at the photo. I found it easily enough.-- 89.243.103.211 ( talk) 11:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
It still strikes me as absolutely laughable that the pompous "knight who says Ni" still hasn't acknowledged that the actor in the video is Larry Martyn. Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopaedia! I came here originally to find the actor's name only to find that this article had Andrew Sachs as the actor even though he bears no resemblance! Knight who says ni: You're nearly a laugh but you're really a cry — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
78.147.146.205 (
talk) 09:59, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Should this actually be in the Songs written by Mike Oldfield category, considering it is only arranged by Oldfield? TubularWorld ( talk) 19:43, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
An appallingly written article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.25.9.83 ( talk) 02:05, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
I disagree with SunCreator's tagging of the entire article for "needs citations" and "may not meet notability". I think it satisfies both, and suspect the tag was added because he thinks the synopsis of the music video is too trivia-like. Looking at the rest of the article, it's adequately cited and contains a lot of information about the song's history, and being a music hall standard, it does have a significant history. I've never seen an article threatened for deletion because of an extra section added. Does SunCreator agree that if the video synopsis were to be removed, the article would be in good shape? If so, does he have any suggestions as to how this section could be improved, rather than removed? I realize it is different in tone from the earlier sections, but I don't think it's too different from a typical synopsis on Wikipedia, and articles with these sections are not usually challenged just for having a synopsis. -- A Knight Who Says Ni ( talk) 22:56, 12 April 2010 (UTC)