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I have put this at the top, because it satisfies the need for verification of a link with R.U.R. It saves having to go through the whole discussion.
The proof of the RUR link comes in the episode "Getting Closer" from the second season. Caroline Farrell asks "So you are Rossum?" the answer comes back "Rossum is just a name. From a play. Although technically, you're not robots, it seemed to fit." However, I really don't see what the problem is.
There is a discussion of it here: Czech Mate: Whedon, Čapek, and the Foundations of Dollhouse Baldwin Clere ( talk) 17:37, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
Several people now have tried to draw a connection between the Rossum Corporation in the show, and R.U.R. Let us be clear here - until it is proven by reliable sources that there is a definitive link between the two - for example, Whedon was choosing to reference the play - we cannot mention the other play. Aside from being original research, the larger problem is that it's actually a violation of verifiability. It's unverifiable that the Rossum Corporation in the show is meant to be RUR. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 22:02, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Im not positive that this is wring, but is everyone shure that the role of Whiskey/Dr Saunders is originally supposed to go to a woman in her 50's? How could she have been their most popular doll at that age as most of the assignments require beauty? Thats simply not possible, is it? Its original research at best.
Whats going on here? I changed the plot portion to more correctly reflect the err plot. Whats up? Its certainly not a locked page, and the plot is incorrect. It doesn't even give the name of the main character, ehich is Caroline, if you simply give those details, one might well think that she is there voluntarily, and the enterprise is legit. The whole point is that it is an illegal)or would be if people knew it existed) organization, and it is a conpiracy. Lets discuss this, if you like. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.148.192 ( talk) 04:45, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
I just made a change to the average for season 1, as 4.6 million seemed odd as the only episode that actually reached that was the pilot episode, from looking at the episodes page. 4.6 million is the average for the live + DVR viewing numbers, so I wanted to adjust it for the proper ratings. I just took the numbers from the episode page to get the new average. Hope everyone is fine with that. Drovethrughosts ( talk) 23:55, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
I fixed your edit. 86.168.12.237 ( talk) 13:33, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
So an anon IP added some text on Boyd potentially being a doll, and I reverted it. And then they added the text again. Can someone take a look at that edit and comment on whether or not it's original research? Seems to me that changing the sentence to "When Echo regains Caroline's memories, she discovers that one of the two founders of the Rossum Corporation at one time had been using Boyd's body as a host and thus Boyd himself is most certainly a Doll seemingly installed in the Dollhouse to become Echo's handler." is OR. The show hasn't definitively stated that Boyd is a doll, so it's pure speculation until stated otherwise. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 04:32, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
I wonder if this show is inspired by the horrific experiments of Dr. Ewen Cameron, in the 1950s. Cameron, funded by the CIA, subjected 77 subjects to hundreds of electroshock treatments and used LSD and other drugs in an attempt to "depattern" them, erase their memories and personalities. He then tried to implant new personalities by playing tape recordings. DonPMitchell ( talk) 19:08, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
I thought I would point out that the citations styles denoting the episode that certain events occur in ("E-12", etc.) are confusing and not in line with out regular style guidelines for citations. Additionally, this moves into a very gray area in regard to synthesis, taking two different episodes and deducing connections. I would ask that the citation styles be altered to conform with our style guidelines, and that events in each episode be cited by external sources.
I will wait a few days, and then take action myself. -
Arcayne
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19:18, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
The purpose of Wikipedia articles is to provide general information about certain things; when it comes to television shows and/or novels it is not the purpose of an encyclopedic article to "spoil" (as internet lingo dictates) literally everything about the show. While I've tried to fix this problem before, whoever it is that has honestly gone back in and typed whole paragraphs detailing the ending, every plot twist, and the fate of every character has redone their "spoiling."
If this author has a wish to write detailed episodic information relating to plot revelations and characters' fates, that author needs to relegate their postings to the individual episode entries, or save their work for the official Dollhouse wikia website. 164.106.234.73 ( talk) 15:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Josh Wedon created all three shows Amy Acker played a scientist in the first episode of Dollhouse and in the last year of Angel (before she was turned into a goddess) even thought Eliza played Faith in Buffy and Angel and Echo in Dollhouse it would not be the first time a director/creator used the same actor for multiple parts. -- Marc Chase — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.33.195.254 ( talk) 18:17, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
While it's never been established within the story itself, the given names of the Dolls (Actives) are actually the phonetic designation of the letters using the NATO Phonetic Alphabet standard. For instance, "Alpha" is letter "A", "Echo" is letter "E", "November" - N, "Sierra" - S, "Victor" - V, and "Whiskey" - W. I'm not sure the relevance for including it in the description. Michaelopolis ( talk) 18:13, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
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I have put this at the top, because it satisfies the need for verification of a link with R.U.R. It saves having to go through the whole discussion.
The proof of the RUR link comes in the episode "Getting Closer" from the second season. Caroline Farrell asks "So you are Rossum?" the answer comes back "Rossum is just a name. From a play. Although technically, you're not robots, it seemed to fit." However, I really don't see what the problem is.
There is a discussion of it here: Czech Mate: Whedon, Čapek, and the Foundations of Dollhouse Baldwin Clere ( talk) 17:37, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
Several people now have tried to draw a connection between the Rossum Corporation in the show, and R.U.R. Let us be clear here - until it is proven by reliable sources that there is a definitive link between the two - for example, Whedon was choosing to reference the play - we cannot mention the other play. Aside from being original research, the larger problem is that it's actually a violation of verifiability. It's unverifiable that the Rossum Corporation in the show is meant to be RUR. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 22:02, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Im not positive that this is wring, but is everyone shure that the role of Whiskey/Dr Saunders is originally supposed to go to a woman in her 50's? How could she have been their most popular doll at that age as most of the assignments require beauty? Thats simply not possible, is it? Its original research at best.
Whats going on here? I changed the plot portion to more correctly reflect the err plot. Whats up? Its certainly not a locked page, and the plot is incorrect. It doesn't even give the name of the main character, ehich is Caroline, if you simply give those details, one might well think that she is there voluntarily, and the enterprise is legit. The whole point is that it is an illegal)or would be if people knew it existed) organization, and it is a conpiracy. Lets discuss this, if you like. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.148.192 ( talk) 04:45, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
I just made a change to the average for season 1, as 4.6 million seemed odd as the only episode that actually reached that was the pilot episode, from looking at the episodes page. 4.6 million is the average for the live + DVR viewing numbers, so I wanted to adjust it for the proper ratings. I just took the numbers from the episode page to get the new average. Hope everyone is fine with that. Drovethrughosts ( talk) 23:55, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
I fixed your edit. 86.168.12.237 ( talk) 13:33, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
So an anon IP added some text on Boyd potentially being a doll, and I reverted it. And then they added the text again. Can someone take a look at that edit and comment on whether or not it's original research? Seems to me that changing the sentence to "When Echo regains Caroline's memories, she discovers that one of the two founders of the Rossum Corporation at one time had been using Boyd's body as a host and thus Boyd himself is most certainly a Doll seemingly installed in the Dollhouse to become Echo's handler." is OR. The show hasn't definitively stated that Boyd is a doll, so it's pure speculation until stated otherwise. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 04:32, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
I wonder if this show is inspired by the horrific experiments of Dr. Ewen Cameron, in the 1950s. Cameron, funded by the CIA, subjected 77 subjects to hundreds of electroshock treatments and used LSD and other drugs in an attempt to "depattern" them, erase their memories and personalities. He then tried to implant new personalities by playing tape recordings. DonPMitchell ( talk) 19:08, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
I thought I would point out that the citations styles denoting the episode that certain events occur in ("E-12", etc.) are confusing and not in line with out regular style guidelines for citations. Additionally, this moves into a very gray area in regard to synthesis, taking two different episodes and deducing connections. I would ask that the citation styles be altered to conform with our style guidelines, and that events in each episode be cited by external sources.
I will wait a few days, and then take action myself. -
Arcayne
(cast a spell)
19:18, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
The purpose of Wikipedia articles is to provide general information about certain things; when it comes to television shows and/or novels it is not the purpose of an encyclopedic article to "spoil" (as internet lingo dictates) literally everything about the show. While I've tried to fix this problem before, whoever it is that has honestly gone back in and typed whole paragraphs detailing the ending, every plot twist, and the fate of every character has redone their "spoiling."
If this author has a wish to write detailed episodic information relating to plot revelations and characters' fates, that author needs to relegate their postings to the individual episode entries, or save their work for the official Dollhouse wikia website. 164.106.234.73 ( talk) 15:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Josh Wedon created all three shows Amy Acker played a scientist in the first episode of Dollhouse and in the last year of Angel (before she was turned into a goddess) even thought Eliza played Faith in Buffy and Angel and Echo in Dollhouse it would not be the first time a director/creator used the same actor for multiple parts. -- Marc Chase — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.33.195.254 ( talk) 18:17, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
While it's never been established within the story itself, the given names of the Dolls (Actives) are actually the phonetic designation of the letters using the NATO Phonetic Alphabet standard. For instance, "Alpha" is letter "A", "Echo" is letter "E", "November" - N, "Sierra" - S, "Victor" - V, and "Whiskey" - W. I'm not sure the relevance for including it in the description. Michaelopolis ( talk) 18:13, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
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