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The result of the move request was: Not moved. ( non-admin closure) Natg 19 ( talk) 23:26, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
– The main article about the subject of "missing episodes" is Lost television broadcast (and a UK list is at List of lost television broadcasts in the United Kingdom) which also has the redirect Lost episode, while there is no article on Missing episodes. Seeing as how the terminology we use everywhere else is "lost" and as these are in fact more lost than missing, these two pages should be renamed to be WP:CONSISTENT with the rest. Gonnym ( talk) 11:50, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
“In the early 1990s, an early form of the Doctor Who Restoration Team attempted to pair the low-resolution colour signal from these sources with the high-resolution black-and-white signal from the black-and-white film recordings. In this way, several Jon Pertwee stories were returned to a rough form of colour” This seems terribly POV: firstly, the restoration team was created specifically to carry out the project that the paragraph is describing (as per the Wikipedia article on the same). It may be the earliest assembly of the team, but it is the team, not just a form of it. Secondly “attempted” is an ineffective way of conveying that they developed and deployed successfully a new technical process, involving not just mixing the chrominance with the luminance, but also warping the one to match the other, given that the two sources were not the same shape. The results may not exactly correspond to the look of peroid video masters, but the end product is far from being “a rough form of colour”. So successful was it that the restored episodes were deemed suitable for broadcast and retail, and led to the financing of other epsiode restorations by the team. Jock123A ( talk) 15:15, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
I added a column for official recons and it was removed as it didn't "count" as completion and there was a section on recons anyway. There's a section on animation too, and I think recons using original materials"count" more than a recreation, and that has a column.
Although the "there's a section already" argument made me think - why does this column need to be in that list? a note with a link to the section below that various methods have been used to complete it would be sufficient Thoughts?
Etron81 ( talk) 22:52, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
Two Hartnell episodes have been found 197.89.10.49 ( talk) 09:15, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
Offa29, you keep reverting people saying that there's no release date for the Celestial Toymaker DVD. As per a previous edit summary, this gives a 2023 release date. This is also the date given at The_Celestial_Toymaker#Home_media. Bondegezou ( talk) 14:24, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
"Doctor Who is unusual in that each of its 97 missing episodes survives in audio form, recorded off-air by fans at home.[4] " Is there any actual source for this? From what I can tell the citation here is being used for a footnote about an unrelated TV show, and the statement is not supported. 2600:1700:96D3:D900:B041:90FF:FEA3:27B9 ( talk) 04:11, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
The statement "while other series such as Z-Cars and Dixon of Dock Green are missing episodes from as late as 1975" would not seem to be correct for the former. According to List of Z-Cars episodes every episode still exists from the series that started in September 1974 and from all later series. Indeed this article would indicate that the last missing episode of Z-Cars was Dinner Break broadcast on 11 March 1974. Dunarc ( talk) 21:49, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Not moved. ( non-admin closure) Natg 19 ( talk) 23:26, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
– The main article about the subject of "missing episodes" is Lost television broadcast (and a UK list is at List of lost television broadcasts in the United Kingdom) which also has the redirect Lost episode, while there is no article on Missing episodes. Seeing as how the terminology we use everywhere else is "lost" and as these are in fact more lost than missing, these two pages should be renamed to be WP:CONSISTENT with the rest. Gonnym ( talk) 11:50, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
“In the early 1990s, an early form of the Doctor Who Restoration Team attempted to pair the low-resolution colour signal from these sources with the high-resolution black-and-white signal from the black-and-white film recordings. In this way, several Jon Pertwee stories were returned to a rough form of colour” This seems terribly POV: firstly, the restoration team was created specifically to carry out the project that the paragraph is describing (as per the Wikipedia article on the same). It may be the earliest assembly of the team, but it is the team, not just a form of it. Secondly “attempted” is an ineffective way of conveying that they developed and deployed successfully a new technical process, involving not just mixing the chrominance with the luminance, but also warping the one to match the other, given that the two sources were not the same shape. The results may not exactly correspond to the look of peroid video masters, but the end product is far from being “a rough form of colour”. So successful was it that the restored episodes were deemed suitable for broadcast and retail, and led to the financing of other epsiode restorations by the team. Jock123A ( talk) 15:15, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
I added a column for official recons and it was removed as it didn't "count" as completion and there was a section on recons anyway. There's a section on animation too, and I think recons using original materials"count" more than a recreation, and that has a column.
Although the "there's a section already" argument made me think - why does this column need to be in that list? a note with a link to the section below that various methods have been used to complete it would be sufficient Thoughts?
Etron81 ( talk) 22:52, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
Two Hartnell episodes have been found 197.89.10.49 ( talk) 09:15, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
Offa29, you keep reverting people saying that there's no release date for the Celestial Toymaker DVD. As per a previous edit summary, this gives a 2023 release date. This is also the date given at The_Celestial_Toymaker#Home_media. Bondegezou ( talk) 14:24, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
"Doctor Who is unusual in that each of its 97 missing episodes survives in audio form, recorded off-air by fans at home.[4] " Is there any actual source for this? From what I can tell the citation here is being used for a footnote about an unrelated TV show, and the statement is not supported. 2600:1700:96D3:D900:B041:90FF:FEA3:27B9 ( talk) 04:11, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
The statement "while other series such as Z-Cars and Dixon of Dock Green are missing episodes from as late as 1975" would not seem to be correct for the former. According to List of Z-Cars episodes every episode still exists from the series that started in September 1974 and from all later series. Indeed this article would indicate that the last missing episode of Z-Cars was Dinner Break broadcast on 11 March 1974. Dunarc ( talk) 21:49, 25 February 2024 (UTC)