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I note that the BBC and the Official UK Charts Company don't have the same current chart position for Do It Like a Dude. The Official UK Charts Company say it is at 22 whilst the BBC say it is at 21. Can anyone figure this out? Adambro ( talk) 13:19, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
shoudnt we mention the music video at all? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.154.98.39 ( talk) 14:52, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Since this article was first created there has been a lot of controversy over the genre of this song. Does anyone actually know the genre of this song and why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cherryguy93 ( talk • contribs) 5 February 2011
You do not post an entire review. You are supposed to include just a few things of what the critic(s) said, not the whole review. -- ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 22:00, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Actually, those lines are simply PART of a review. They are not the whole review and it has been done on many other pages. Sorry, but you are incorrect. —Preceding
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Rolling Stone rate songs out of four not five. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.197.213 ( talk) 23:03, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus at this time, and strongly suggest clarification of the relationship between WP:COMMONNAME and WP:MOSCAPS. This has been a recurring problem lately in requested moves and requires that we get beyond local consensus and look at the root of the problem. One solution would seem to be adding an explicit statement in WP:MOSCAPS that common name does not imply common style, and that the MOS should be used to determine style (including capitalization) in article titles. The other solution would seem to be adding an explicit direction that the style guide is only to be used for titles in cases in which the most common stylization of the title is unclear, which would be closer to the way we negotiate WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The final two sections of WT:MOSCAPS are currently attempts to clarify this exact problem, but have not received replies or yet established consensus. Although a majority of the editors responding here are in favor of a move, I am unwilling to close this as a move when a majority of editors are also supporting a move the other direction in a move request started less than an hour after this one. I'm closing both requests (and Talk:Walks Like Rihanna) as no consensus and asking that discussion continue at WT:MOSCAPS. Dekimasu よ! 19:07, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Do It like a Dude → Do It Like a Dude – Grammar reasons; the letter 'l' should be capitalised. DEW. Adrenaline ( Nahnah4) 07:02, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
The proposed title is overwhelmingly preferred by the policy of using the most common name, and the manual of style specifically encourages editor discretion. The MOS is great for our writing style and when the official or common name might be unknown, but to argue that it should be used to take an official name with a specifically chosen title that is used by the absolutely overwhelming majority of reliable sources, including books, newspapers, and websites, as well as is the generally common name is fairly absurd. Our title guidelines and policies are unfortunately somewhat murky. But, what it comes down to can be gleaned from Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization), which states that "an adherence to conventions widely used in the genre are critically important to credibility". If Billboard is using a style, and Rolling Stone or the books written that discuss the song, or Spin or just the bulk of reliable sourcing in general largely use the official title, is it really common sense for us to be saying we shouldn't be following the sources here in order to somehow adhere to conventions and gain credibility? Wikipedia is a unique construct in that our work is so clearly tied and based off of reliable sourcing about the subject -- making us stand out and go against the grain here just doesn't make much sense.There's also just the general notion (which certainly should not be the deciding factor in finding consensus) that certain lowercase words just look weird in titles. Perhaps this may give some indication as to why "like" and other 3 or more letter words are very often capitalized in composition titles but words like "a", "to", or "and" often aren't.-- Yaksar (let's chat) 07:47, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
There is a policy discussion in progress at the Manual of Style which affects this page, suggesting that the capitalization of "like" should be removed. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — LlywelynII 16:23, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
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I note that the BBC and the Official UK Charts Company don't have the same current chart position for Do It Like a Dude. The Official UK Charts Company say it is at 22 whilst the BBC say it is at 21. Can anyone figure this out? Adambro ( talk) 13:19, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
shoudnt we mention the music video at all? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.154.98.39 ( talk) 14:52, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Since this article was first created there has been a lot of controversy over the genre of this song. Does anyone actually know the genre of this song and why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cherryguy93 ( talk • contribs) 5 February 2011
You do not post an entire review. You are supposed to include just a few things of what the critic(s) said, not the whole review. -- ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 22:00, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Actually, those lines are simply PART of a review. They are not the whole review and it has been done on many other pages. Sorry, but you are incorrect. —Preceding
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80.189.73.242 (
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20:03, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Rolling Stone rate songs out of four not five. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.197.213 ( talk) 23:03, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus at this time, and strongly suggest clarification of the relationship between WP:COMMONNAME and WP:MOSCAPS. This has been a recurring problem lately in requested moves and requires that we get beyond local consensus and look at the root of the problem. One solution would seem to be adding an explicit statement in WP:MOSCAPS that common name does not imply common style, and that the MOS should be used to determine style (including capitalization) in article titles. The other solution would seem to be adding an explicit direction that the style guide is only to be used for titles in cases in which the most common stylization of the title is unclear, which would be closer to the way we negotiate WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The final two sections of WT:MOSCAPS are currently attempts to clarify this exact problem, but have not received replies or yet established consensus. Although a majority of the editors responding here are in favor of a move, I am unwilling to close this as a move when a majority of editors are also supporting a move the other direction in a move request started less than an hour after this one. I'm closing both requests (and Talk:Walks Like Rihanna) as no consensus and asking that discussion continue at WT:MOSCAPS. Dekimasu よ! 19:07, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Do It like a Dude → Do It Like a Dude – Grammar reasons; the letter 'l' should be capitalised. DEW. Adrenaline ( Nahnah4) 07:02, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
The proposed title is overwhelmingly preferred by the policy of using the most common name, and the manual of style specifically encourages editor discretion. The MOS is great for our writing style and when the official or common name might be unknown, but to argue that it should be used to take an official name with a specifically chosen title that is used by the absolutely overwhelming majority of reliable sources, including books, newspapers, and websites, as well as is the generally common name is fairly absurd. Our title guidelines and policies are unfortunately somewhat murky. But, what it comes down to can be gleaned from Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization), which states that "an adherence to conventions widely used in the genre are critically important to credibility". If Billboard is using a style, and Rolling Stone or the books written that discuss the song, or Spin or just the bulk of reliable sourcing in general largely use the official title, is it really common sense for us to be saying we shouldn't be following the sources here in order to somehow adhere to conventions and gain credibility? Wikipedia is a unique construct in that our work is so clearly tied and based off of reliable sourcing about the subject -- making us stand out and go against the grain here just doesn't make much sense.There's also just the general notion (which certainly should not be the deciding factor in finding consensus) that certain lowercase words just look weird in titles. Perhaps this may give some indication as to why "like" and other 3 or more letter words are very often capitalized in composition titles but words like "a", "to", or "and" often aren't.-- Yaksar (let's chat) 07:47, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
There is a policy discussion in progress at the Manual of Style which affects this page, suggesting that the capitalization of "like" should be removed. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — LlywelynII 16:23, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
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