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I have moved some content from the main page into this discussion page. As the article currently stands, this text stands out as heavily biased. The content itself is eligble for inclusion, but the whole article needs rewriting and extending (incorporating this content) in order to appear an unbiased, encyclopaedic article.
The content below has been reinstated since User Chris Throup - who originally removed it is an employee or associate of Dixons as this link shows. The chain has long suffered the reputation that its staff are unhelpful [1] [2]. In November 1998 Dixons came under fire because of the prices it was charging for personal computers. Peter Mandelson said he was worried that consumers were getting a "raw deal" because of the store's dominant position in the market [3]. Intel's chief executive at that time, Craig Barrett, said that Dixons charges "ridiculous margins" [4]. The Intel Architecture Business Group said "Dixons has classic channel presence and can determine what gets sold at what price." Dixons responded that it could not make sense of the comments. The Consumers' Association said "Dixons controls over half of the high street distribution of PCs and they seem to be using this enormous market power to keep prices to consumers high" and has a "monopoly position in the high street" [5]. Criticism continued into 2000 when competitor John Lewis, with the support of two Members of Parliament, accused Dixons of sifling competition in the market by striking anti-competitive deals with suppliers [6]. The retail chain was criticised by the Consumers' Association in 2003 for the way staff pressured customers (through "dodgy sales tactics" [7] and "dubious practices" [8]) into purchasing poor value extended warranties [9] [10], an issue which was widely reported in the press [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17], with Dixons facing particular criticism by virtue of supplying one-in-four of all extended warranties [18] accounting for 40% of the store's profits [19].Also in 2003 The Daily Telegraph and The Independent reported that the chain had been selling used goods [20]. Dixons had been investigated by more than twenty-two of thirty county trading standards offices; in the previous two years thirteen counties had prosecuted the company and five had issued formal cautions, another 12 were contemplating prosecution [21]. Furthermore the chain has made a number of advertising claims which the Advertising Standards Agency judged were misleading [22] [23] [24] and advertised in-store credit in a way that the Office of Fair Trading ruled unlawful [25].
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I thought it would be worth putting some of our discussion into practise to see how it pans out. I have created a subpage of this discussion for us to try out ideas before incorporating them into the article: /proposed.
Initially I have copied the current page and incorporated the criticisms table you have been working on from your user page. Once you have had a chance to express an opinion here, I am planning to expand on the company's history--unless, of course, our discussion here takes us down a different route. -- Throup ( talk) 11:19, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
This article has now been made unbalanced in favour of Dixons by the removal of all criticism to a remote sub page. I have added a small para to the main article as a place holder. Lumos3 22:08, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
I came across this article randomly, with no special axe to grind. Some of the criticisms about PC pricing seem to be from quite a while ago - I wonder if they still apply? It does have something of the "....and another thing!" tone about it. Maybe a shorter summary of the most recent and serious criticisms, rather than "everything bad about Dixons that google can find", would balance it better and actually be more useful?
I did find the fact that they made 40% of their profit from extended warranties absolutely fascinating, and if I may make a minor suggestion, I think that would be an excellent addition to the page on extended warranty. -- Enlad 22:52, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Unfortunately they'll never read this either... -- Enlad 11:46, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
OK, I've called time on this charade. For some considerable time I've known that Chris Throup is an employee or associate of Dixons as this link shows. - The fact that he accused me of POV led me to remain quiet about this so he could dig himself into an ever more embarrassing and shameful hole. But since he hasn't contributed to Wikipedia since November I tire of waiting to administer the coup de grace. It's interesting to note, is it not, that Dixons pernicious business methods and horrible disdain for the public at large extends even into the private conduct of it's lowliest employees. -- bodnotbod 20:03, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Why has this article been set up so that Currys.digital redirects to Dixons? It isn't called Dixons any more, so surely it should be reversed, ie. Dixons should redirect to Currys.digital.
The reason that there is a separate Currys.digital article is that an anonymous user changed a simple redirect into an article in its own right. Unfortunately, they did the newbie thing of cutting-and-pasting material from Dixons en masse, which is almost always a bad thing. Apparently they were attempting to "move" it, but I don't know if they'd realised (improper "moving" aside) that leaving the original article as a dupe is bad style, both from a reader's and a maintainer's point-of-view.
There may be a case for having separate articles... but only if "Dixons" now refers to a noticeably distinct business/entity from Currys and Currys.digital. If it's just a minor branding difference on some stores, it should stay as a section within a single article.
However, regardless of whether separate articles are warranted, it's clear that the cut-and-paste near-duplicates setup that exists just now is pointless. Fourohfour 11:07, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Here's a quote from a newspaper article that will have an impact on this debate.
Despite insisting he had "no concerns" about rebranding the former Dixons stores, which saved the group money, he admitted that the future of its 200-odd high street stores was in doubt. He said the group would not be renewing the leases on its Currys.digital stores because of the upward pressure on rents.
John Clare interview in the indepentdent 18 January 2007
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 164.38.132.100 ( talk • contribs).
There's still a lot of duplicate information in Currys.digital and Dixons. Since this is indicative of bad organisation (from a reader's POV) and hard to maintain, it should be dealt with. Which information belongs where- any thoughts? Fourohfour 17:37, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 20:09, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
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It is looking like Dixons Travel is set to become defunct as well according to it's website - since they are both small articles, might it be worth merging them and just making Dixons Travel a section towards the bottom?-- Zerbstill ( talk) 17:03, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
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I have moved some content from the main page into this discussion page. As the article currently stands, this text stands out as heavily biased. The content itself is eligble for inclusion, but the whole article needs rewriting and extending (incorporating this content) in order to appear an unbiased, encyclopaedic article.
The content below has been reinstated since User Chris Throup - who originally removed it is an employee or associate of Dixons as this link shows. The chain has long suffered the reputation that its staff are unhelpful [1] [2]. In November 1998 Dixons came under fire because of the prices it was charging for personal computers. Peter Mandelson said he was worried that consumers were getting a "raw deal" because of the store's dominant position in the market [3]. Intel's chief executive at that time, Craig Barrett, said that Dixons charges "ridiculous margins" [4]. The Intel Architecture Business Group said "Dixons has classic channel presence and can determine what gets sold at what price." Dixons responded that it could not make sense of the comments. The Consumers' Association said "Dixons controls over half of the high street distribution of PCs and they seem to be using this enormous market power to keep prices to consumers high" and has a "monopoly position in the high street" [5]. Criticism continued into 2000 when competitor John Lewis, with the support of two Members of Parliament, accused Dixons of sifling competition in the market by striking anti-competitive deals with suppliers [6]. The retail chain was criticised by the Consumers' Association in 2003 for the way staff pressured customers (through "dodgy sales tactics" [7] and "dubious practices" [8]) into purchasing poor value extended warranties [9] [10], an issue which was widely reported in the press [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17], with Dixons facing particular criticism by virtue of supplying one-in-four of all extended warranties [18] accounting for 40% of the store's profits [19].Also in 2003 The Daily Telegraph and The Independent reported that the chain had been selling used goods [20]. Dixons had been investigated by more than twenty-two of thirty county trading standards offices; in the previous two years thirteen counties had prosecuted the company and five had issued formal cautions, another 12 were contemplating prosecution [21]. Furthermore the chain has made a number of advertising claims which the Advertising Standards Agency judged were misleading [22] [23] [24] and advertised in-store credit in a way that the Office of Fair Trading ruled unlawful [25].
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- If only the favorable (or the unfavorable) facts of a point of view are shown in an article, the article will still be non-neutral.
I thought it would be worth putting some of our discussion into practise to see how it pans out. I have created a subpage of this discussion for us to try out ideas before incorporating them into the article: /proposed.
Initially I have copied the current page and incorporated the criticisms table you have been working on from your user page. Once you have had a chance to express an opinion here, I am planning to expand on the company's history--unless, of course, our discussion here takes us down a different route. -- Throup ( talk) 11:19, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
This article has now been made unbalanced in favour of Dixons by the removal of all criticism to a remote sub page. I have added a small para to the main article as a place holder. Lumos3 22:08, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
I came across this article randomly, with no special axe to grind. Some of the criticisms about PC pricing seem to be from quite a while ago - I wonder if they still apply? It does have something of the "....and another thing!" tone about it. Maybe a shorter summary of the most recent and serious criticisms, rather than "everything bad about Dixons that google can find", would balance it better and actually be more useful?
I did find the fact that they made 40% of their profit from extended warranties absolutely fascinating, and if I may make a minor suggestion, I think that would be an excellent addition to the page on extended warranty. -- Enlad 22:52, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Unfortunately they'll never read this either... -- Enlad 11:46, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
OK, I've called time on this charade. For some considerable time I've known that Chris Throup is an employee or associate of Dixons as this link shows. - The fact that he accused me of POV led me to remain quiet about this so he could dig himself into an ever more embarrassing and shameful hole. But since he hasn't contributed to Wikipedia since November I tire of waiting to administer the coup de grace. It's interesting to note, is it not, that Dixons pernicious business methods and horrible disdain for the public at large extends even into the private conduct of it's lowliest employees. -- bodnotbod 20:03, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Why has this article been set up so that Currys.digital redirects to Dixons? It isn't called Dixons any more, so surely it should be reversed, ie. Dixons should redirect to Currys.digital.
The reason that there is a separate Currys.digital article is that an anonymous user changed a simple redirect into an article in its own right. Unfortunately, they did the newbie thing of cutting-and-pasting material from Dixons en masse, which is almost always a bad thing. Apparently they were attempting to "move" it, but I don't know if they'd realised (improper "moving" aside) that leaving the original article as a dupe is bad style, both from a reader's and a maintainer's point-of-view.
There may be a case for having separate articles... but only if "Dixons" now refers to a noticeably distinct business/entity from Currys and Currys.digital. If it's just a minor branding difference on some stores, it should stay as a section within a single article.
However, regardless of whether separate articles are warranted, it's clear that the cut-and-paste near-duplicates setup that exists just now is pointless. Fourohfour 11:07, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Here's a quote from a newspaper article that will have an impact on this debate.
Despite insisting he had "no concerns" about rebranding the former Dixons stores, which saved the group money, he admitted that the future of its 200-odd high street stores was in doubt. He said the group would not be renewing the leases on its Currys.digital stores because of the upward pressure on rents.
John Clare interview in the indepentdent 18 January 2007
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 164.38.132.100 ( talk • contribs).
There's still a lot of duplicate information in Currys.digital and Dixons. Since this is indicative of bad organisation (from a reader's POV) and hard to maintain, it should be dealt with. Which information belongs where- any thoughts? Fourohfour 17:37, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
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It is looking like Dixons Travel is set to become defunct as well according to it's website - since they are both small articles, might it be worth merging them and just making Dixons Travel a section towards the bottom?-- Zerbstill ( talk) 17:03, 10 October 2021 (UTC)