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I propose the Disneyland article be a feature article on the main page on May 5, when the celebrations for it's fiftieth anniversary commence. We could add something in the article that lets Main Page viewers know it is Disneyland's birthday straight away, and since my previous failed bid to get the article featured a lot of changes have been made for the better. I haven't put the article forward for selection because I want to sort out anything negative with the article that you lot have noticed before we put it forward. Speedway 19:14 9 April 2005 (UTC)
OK. I am going to put in a bid for Featured Article Candidate. But there are two main points to sort out. Say the article was featured, we would need to make the opening paragraph more wide-sweeping, including tidbits about attractions and the five lands etc. We also need an image. Now, I am quite surprised that the article doesn't have a photo of Sleeping Beauty Castle somewhere on the page - considering the castle is easily the most famous symbol of Disneyland. If we can get a good quality photo of the castle on the page, then that could be used as the featured article image. Please, I would like your thoughts, may they be positive or negative.-- Speedway 19:29, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)
The following points have been notified (as of 25 April) by the Featured Article board that need to be rectified before beginning the nomination process.
A much featured point in the object answers. On the points of the skinheads and the deaths at Disneyland, references must be provided by the author of this information or by someone else who is in the know. If no-one provides any references for the information, I will remove it.
Another heavily featured argument. Again, the author needs to back up his/her points with references and another side of the argument. I cannot provide references but I can provide another side of the argument.
We need to move the copyright section of the opening paragraph to another section, and 'beef' up the opening paragraph. I hope you all agree, and any help is appreciated. -- Speedway 15:33, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
According to this article, the first arrivals the day before the 50th anniversary came at 3pm. I was in that line, fairly near the front, and I was told by a cast member that the first was at noon. Which is correct? Is there any official source for that? -- Masterzora 02:40, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
I remember that Nicolae Ceausescu was declared citizen of Disneyland. Could somebdoy explain the concept and make a list of citizens? -- Error 02:10, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Looking up "citizen of Disneyland" in Google, it doesn't look like it's anything special. They apparently hand them out to anybody who asks for them. RickK 02:48, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)
I agree with Rick, everyone is a citizen of Disneyland as soon as they enter the gates. However, official "citizen" stickers can be obtained from various cast members inside the park or by visiting City Hall once inside. - Shinku Hisaki 04:51, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
I am removing "arguably the first of its kind". It is no such thing. Theme parks existed long before Disney. Coney Island has had them since the turn of the century. Brooklyn Nellie (Nricardo) 01:57, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)
All it takes is a little 'net research. Holiday World is also said to be the first themed amusement park, opening in 1946. Folks on coaster-net.com discussed this and said that Knott's wasn't themed throughout the park, and Holiday World had minimal rides (if any at all at the time). DL was themed completely from head to toe. Keep in mind that whatever is decided to be "the first" needs to have that WK page updated, all the pages that may also claim to be first need to be updated, along with the Amusement park page, so that wikipedia presents a single face. That particular discussion may be better on the Amusement park:Talk page. SpikeJones 12:15, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
It doesn't say that Disneyland was the first theme park. It says that Disneyland was the, "First of its kind." Which it undoubtedly was. Just look at how big of news the park's opening was. It was huge. Disneyland may not have been the first theme park, but it was definately the first "of its kind." -- Godismy420 18:50, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Walt Disney World was. DLR Fanatic 15:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
The fact that this entity is owned by Disney is mentioned in the article and in the categorization, therefore the entries added to the see also section are not necessary. Gentgeen 05:32, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I emailed Disneyland (via a form on the disneyland.com web site) to ask what the proper name of the park is. I received this in response:
The proper name is Disneyland park. However, the Park is part of the Disneyland Resort.
I don't know whether this clears anything up - should we replace all occurences of "Disneyland" with "Disneyland park" now? - but I figured I'd post the official word here. - Brian Kendig 15:23, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Team Disney Anaheim was the name given to Disneyland Resort Management by Paul Pressler in a bid to liven up the running of the place. The bright yellow building backstage in the Resort that houses the Anaheim branch of Imagineering, Disneyland Resort Marketing and Matt Ouimet's office etc is known in Disney literature as Team Disney Anaheim HQ. The name has fallen out of favour much less since Matt Ouimet became the big man of the place, but is still the official name of Disneyland Resort Management & Maintenance. I have re-edited what was previously 'the Disney Company' then 'Team Disney Anaheim' then 'the Disney Company' again to 'the Walt Disney Company'. Speedway 20:18 4 Jan 05 (UTC)
Someone added a "this article is in need of attention" notice to the article, but I can't find the article's entry in any of the categories on Wikipedia:Pages needing attention, so I don't know what attention that person feels it needs - can someone point me to the entry? - Brian Kendig 15:52, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
On the fac page, someone commented that it needed re-sectioning. Other than that as a possible source, I dunno. Didn't seem that bad to me, although it isn't quite up to featured article level yet. Vaoverland 17:53, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)
Incidentally - I've done a lot of work to the article in response to the fac comment that the article needed re-sectioning. If other people have ideas about how to make this closer to being a real featured article someday, please jump in. :) - Brian Kendig 22:33, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Hey, every other disneyland attraction that has more that the paragraph of info given in list of current Disneyland attractions has its own article--except the monorail and the railroad, which for some odd reason have left all of their info in the main disneyland article. This means that if I want to direct someone from the List of... page to more info on either attraction, I have to link them back to, e.g., Disneyland#Monorail, which seems like an inside-out way to do it. So, unless anyone objects soon, I'll go ahead & move those out into their own articles. (Normally I'd just do it but with all the activity & interest at the moment...) Elf | Talk 00:26, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I have been working on some other parts (mostly) trying to get the POV issue eased up a bit. I agree that the railroad and monorail sections could go separate. But, try to keep some of the stuff about Walt's backyard railroad as a predecessor and prototype for these Disneyland features in the main article if you can. I also feel we are missing a lot of history. In thsi article, we jump from the park as it opened in the 1950s and shortly thereafter all the way to the 1990s. Poof. OK, well it's magic, but... Maybe someone else can take a whack at it, I'm going to take a break. Vaoverland 00:52, Jan 15, 2005 (UTC)
OK, so maybe one article titled Disneyland transportation with redirects from Disneyland Monorail and Disneyland Railroad? The only problem with the "transportation" title is that that doesn't preclude discussing the parking lot trams, the main-street vehicles, the riverboats, and so on. Would Disneyland railways be a better combined title? And, oh yeah, the "Disneyland" in the title *would* preclude discussing the Disneyworld monorail--which we probably don't want to do, given your suggestion to talk about them together. Elf | Talk 20:18, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
This section could be much larger. Probably should be titled "Live entertainment". Questions--is the spelling "Slewfoot Sue"? And is it the Trash Can Band, Garbage Can Trio, or some combination--I've got it written down as several variations, even though they say exactly who they are at the end of every performance? Anyone who wants to add to, clean up, or come up with a better way for organizing this, don't let me stand in your way. Elf | Talk 21:24, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Andy 21:32 15 Jan 05
Yeah, I was wondering about Sluefoot. Guess I have to do more research... Hate when that happens. I'm not familiar with the main street residents. So I guess it won't be me adding anything. :-) Elf | Talk 21:48, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I think this article is off the fac list for now. We can try when its a little better. Vaoverland 02:18, Jan 20, 2005 (UTC)
Should the Characters have their own page? ( 205.250.167.76 04:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC))
I hope I haven't violated rules, but I just added a link to my website (non-commerical, I don't earn anything from it) that documents all of the large format, poster-sized maps sold in Disneyland from 1958 to today. My question to the community is whether it would be useful to drag the whole thing into Wikipedia as a page on Disneyland maps. I'm willing to do that, recognizing that I lose editorial control, but I really like Wikipedia's approach to content. So the first question is whether the community thinks that would be a useful addition?
Second question is whether you think I'm going to run into copyright problems. The maps are copyrighted by The Walt Disney Company, and so far I haven't had any trouble. If you go to the currently existing website at Mouse Maps, you see that I don't have entire maps on the site, but pieces. I woudn't want to violate Wikipedia's policies and it would seem to me that fair use would permit small pieces of the map to be used in this way. So, is there a problem with that?
Keep up the good work on the Disneyland page! -- billlund 22:06, July 9, 2005 (UTC)
To avoid a back-and-forth editing, I'll throw it here first. Fernando removed the following links:
The MiceAge and MousePlanet sites are generally regarded as 2 of the most reliable and Disney-Friendly news and information reporting websites. I believe MousePlanet was one of only 4 websites invited as part of the press during the July 50th birthday celebration. JimHillMedia would be another site worth linking to, although that site has expanded into some non-Disney stuff as well. The other two listed here I don't have any information on. SpikeJones 13:23, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
I propose that there be a subpage, List of Disneyland attractions, organized either by which "land" they appear in or by date of installation. (I think sorting by "land" would be the preferable option.) If anyone doesn't have any objections, I can start it. I would suggest that the list also include attractions that are no longer in operation as well as current ones. (I say "attractions" because that's what Disney says, and because not everything is a ride.) - Branddobbe
(COPIED from the Magic Kingdom page, just in case somebody here wanted to weigh in and isn't watching over there)
I started with something small, Liberty Square, to gauge reaction. I had brought this up a few months previous and received one positive comment and no dissenters, so I waited a while to make sure nobody else would care. From an article management viewpoint, it would help minimize problems with article naming and dab pages, along with making sure that updates that affect all parks are easily handled.
Anyway, because the various MK-style park pages are getting rather long and tedious, my suggestion was to merge/migrate all the various LAND paragraphs to their own individual pages. For example, we would list "Fantasyland" on the TokyoDL, WDW, DL, etc pages with a link to the main Fantasyland page, and on that page we would list all the attractions for ALL Fantasylands throughout the organization... along with the ability to discuss/point out differences between each of the parks without having to repeat ourselves silly.
Obviously, Liberty Square is minor to this concept as it doesn't exist anywhere else but WDW - not a lot to edit/retype/dig up. The immediate question that comes to mind (and why it's good to start small like this) is what *do* we put on the main MK page in place of listing all the attraction information for each area? SpikeJones 14:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Could someone verify the addition, about a heart "tumor" dislodging in a Space Mountain ride. Sound like an urban legend to me - if not, it has to be re-worded. -- Janke | Talk 06:56, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
"^ Although most people refer to the park as simply "Disneyland", the official name is "Disneyland Park". United States trademark law requires that a trademark such as "Disneyland" is always used as an adjective and never as a noun or verb. Therefore, "Xerox copier" and "Disneyland Park" are correct usage, while "use a Xerox" or "come to Disneyland" are not technically correct."
You know, I am hesitant to actually believe this. What about the parks at Walt Disney World? That's in the United States. Only Animal Kingdom has "Park" at the end of it. The other parks aren't "Magic Kingdom Park," "Epcot Park," or "Disney-MGM Studios Park." I think that footnote may have come from a rumor. You never see official names like "Chevrolet Corvette Automobile" or "The Sims 2 Computer Game," now, do you? -- Lyght 19:54, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
It is doubtful that Lilian Disney "tapped" the Morse code in the recording. What the literature says, is that the recording was changed, from a somewhat racy text, to the current one, in anticipation of a visit by Mrs. Disney, who knew Morse Code. -- Janke | Talk 06:11, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Two things. Firstly, I was just reading the article and I noticed that it mentioned that the only special freebies were the golden ears and the cupcakes. Is the special edition map worth mention? (Also, if I can get ahold of a decent scanner, should I scan the map and upload it?) Secondly, something I asked about a month ago, the page says that the first to line up for the event came in at 3pm. I was in that line, and I remember a cast member telling me that the first person to arrive came started waiting at noon. Is there an official source for the 3pm, or at least a more credible source than a guy who heard it from a guy? If not, would it be proper to change it to noon?
-- Masterzora 02:06, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
I would recommnend adding information and a list of original attractions, and that there is a plaque for each, and a golden aspect of each (i.e. a golden dumbo, golden light posts on main street, the golden teacup, etc.)
Bytebear 23:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I would also love to see a list of the hidden 50th mickeys. There are 50 of them scattered around the park. I have seen many of them but would love a page with a photo of each throughout the park.
Bytebear 23:35, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
There's a nice aerial photo of Disneyland on Commons, [2], but I have a slight inkling that it may be a copyvio. If not, it would be nice to have here. Can anybody determine if the stated May 2004 date is correct, by the status of the park in the photo? If it is not a copyvio (I wonder if the uploader/photographer could have flown over the park in May 2004?), then we might have a real gem for this page. -- Janke | Talk 19:36, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Should we make a section about how some people think that Disneyland just exists to make children buy Disney movies/products?
Should we give the characters their own page? ( 205.250.167.76 04:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC))
Nevermind. In the last couple of months various members have been around and tagged those characters that appear at Disney Parks. ( 154.5.194.215 23:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC))
There is a discussion about article naming and dab pages that is taking place in the Magic Kingdom page. Some of that discussion affects the Disneyland article. Please feel free to join in the discussion. ManoaChild 21:20, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm heading down to Disneyland and California Misadventure Feb 11-13 (their 50th year for my 50th year--amazing but true--). Any photos of anything in particular that anyone thinks we need? (My previous Dland photo contributions are here: User:Elf/photos (full view)#Parks.) I know there are lots of you closer to Anaheim who get there more often, but my sister's used to me dashing hither and yon at Dland with lenses and cameras and such, so thought I'd offer. Elf | Talk 23:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Here are some from the Elf Archives :-) -- not super but OK maybe? Let me know if you want me to add these somewhere specifically (like replace the (c) grizzly peak image). I just slapped together 5 images for the paradise pier but it's not a perfect panorama; I'll try to get something clearer, I guess.
Elf | Talk 00:08, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Pretty cool! I forgot to add, night time images of either park are always great additions to Wikipedia, as are images of the hotels. -- Speedway 18:17, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
I noted in this article earlier that the band has aleways been all-male. However, last week, we're pretty sure that we saw female members of the band. Can anyone verify this? And, if so, does anyone know when the policy changed? Elf | Talk 18:25, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Speaking from personal experience(I've been working there since April), Christmas and New years is the busiest time of the year for California Adventure and Disneyland(meaning the parks fill to capacity more often then than any other time of the year).-- Vercalos 06:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Reading over the sections referring to the Carrousel, and the intentional misspelling of the word, I was wondering if the disclaimer "as spelled by Disney," could be better phrased as (sic.) Has there been a previous argument over this? Whursey 18:24, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Many Disney park articles seem to be a bit lacking on the sort of objectivity that is required for an enyclopedia, and are quite clearly written by fans whose communal pet peeves aren't always necessarily relevant to this medium. Though the Disneyland article is by far the best of them all, parts like this still read like veritable MiceAge columns:
"Light bulbs, which were once replaced before they burned out, not only were run to burnout but were so numerous as to make the facades they outlined look almost toothless. Fans of the park decried the perceived decline in customer value and park quality and rallied for the dismissal of the management team."
I know we as fans are the ones to write these articles, but I think we shouldn't make ourselves too important. Let's stick to the facts.
I was an annual pass holder for 3 years, from 1984-1986. I know for a fact that in each of those years, they would close on Monday and Tuesday during the "Off Season", roughly from September through May. I know for a fact that this was done in 1984 and 1985. I do not know about 1986, because it was in that year that I moved from the area and did not go as often as I did before. The information for the park not being closed during the time of the filming of "National Lampoon's Vacation" must be incorrect. 72.161.165.250 14:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
In the ticket section of the article, it mentions that a 5-day pass to Disneyland in 2000 is only $99. I find this very unlikely. Although I did not visit Disneyland in 2000, I went there this year, and the price for ONE-day admission was approx. $60. Finally, with a 5-day pass in 2000 being $99, it would be cheaper than the price back in 1990, where a one-day was $23.50. So, I was wondering if someone could check the ticket prices to make sure they're accurate?
If someone has access to older ticket price data, please fill in the appropriate table. It would be nice to have the prices (and dates of price change) all the way back to 1982.-- Ahecht 21:15, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Certainly non-notable by itself, so requesting merge into here, if anything. If merge is not done, former article should be deleted entirely. (|-- UlTiMuS 21:13, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
I absolutely disagree with a merge as this article is already *way* oversized. Cburnett 22:36, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Let's add it to the see also section.-- Godismy420 18:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I've heard rumors that the Matterhorn's closing, permanently. Can anyone give any explanation?-- Vercalos 04:55, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
I oppose any and all merges into this article. As of this momment it is 55 Kb which is closer to doubling the recommended max than being near the max. See Wikipedia:Article size. Cburnett 16:07, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
I just made an edit to the "Disneyland in the 21st Century" Section (adding the sentence about the purchase of strawberry fields), and when I was finished, I saw that the article was really screwed up. I looked at the History and there were a whole bunch of edits by 71.110.228.140, but I'm new to this, so I didn't know how to check and see if it was vandalism, or if I accidently screwed it up, or what. So, I'm leaving this up to someone who knows what they're doing.-- Godismy420 05:34, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
If possible, something should be added about the fireworks display and how persons wishing to watch them have to find seats 3-4 hours ahead of time. If you are just walking through the park when the fireworks are going off, there is a virtual army of park workers with light wands who shout, harrass, push, and yes even kick people to keep them moving and stop them from looking up at the fireworks. I was at anaheim, and no kidding I saw women with strollers and elederly people with canes getting shouted at to "keep on moving" and if people looked up at the fireworks who were not in the seated area, 3-4 park workers would converge, shoving and hustling the people along. It was really a sad thing and I lost some respect for Disney. - Husnock 07:50, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't know that this can be judged simply by park attendance. The two Disneyland Resort theme parks don't have anywhere near the capacity of the Walt Disney World Resort, so this really isn't a fair way to evaluate the subject of popularity. If someone can find a better way to gauge this, then I'm more than happy to entertain it, but other than that it should probably be removed from the article. -- Andysund 10:37, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I couldn't find any mention about Disneyland's unique street address: 1313 S. Harbor Boulevard, tributing Mickey Mouse's initials, as the letter "M" is the thirteenth letter of the alphabet. Should this be added to the article? If it already is, let me know. Thanks! 67.120.75.136 02:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Friends, I agree that the DL article is completely oversized and needs work. Excessive kibbutzing about one sentence that had a fact tag added then removed is a bit overkill. Please refer to the Roy O. Disney article and the Walt Disney World Railroad articles for at least 2 other WP articles that contain this particular fact, or refer to any number of Walt Disney biographies, Disney tours, etc, for the citations that you are looking for. What's the real issue here -- how citation-detailed do we want the article to be; how detailed do we need the "Magic Kingdoms Around the World" section to be in this article about DL, or something else entirely? SpikeJones 20:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
After a little 'net digging (as I don't have any of the mentioned books on hand), I have uncovered the following items that can be used as springboards for the actual citation regarding Roy renaming/dedicating WDW to Walt (per this article, Walt Disney World Railroad , Walt Disney World, Roy O. Disney, and Walt Disney... to name but a few other WP articles that also refer to this info and will also need to contain said citation):
Since I don't have the actual citable items at my disposal, I can't add any of these to the aforementioned articles. If someone has any of these physical items available and can add the proper citation to the appropriate fact tag, that would be appreciated. Thanks! SpikeJones 03:58, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
As one who has to go through the process of having articles rated, I must add that this DL article stands no snowballs chance in hell of passing the editors for anything above a B rating. WHY? Because nothing in this article is referenced. You can write and write and write all the generally well-known tidbits of DL info you like, but without reference to a document or publication that says this article is researched, and not just contrived from memory, personal experiences, or bullsh-- this will remain a fourth-class article. It has already been turned down twice for an FA rating. WP's intent is to develop an on-line, open-air information source that has the appearance of being researched. A 55 MB article should probably have a FOOTNOTE section of 120-150 citations. This article has one! Good effin' luck!-- Magi Media 03:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry to offend some people's sensibilities with my encrypted expletives. Sometimes I become exasperated and let loose of me senses. However, I hope someone reckons the underlying message. it is a shame to see such a potentially great article go virtually unassessed because it is left without references. Like I said, been there---done that!-- Magi Media 15:22, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
The following was placed on my user pages, but since this is from an anon IP I doubt that they are watching their non-existent talk page...
Dear Mr. Hell,
Please don't delete my link on the Disneyland web page. You say this has nothing to do with Disneyland but it does. You say it is a commercial site and it is but it doesn't sell anything and we are across the street from Disneyland and help a lot of people, whether or not they buy anything.
Besides, I think DISNEYLAND is commercial. So, if you'd like to talk to me about your continued deletion of the information, please call me at xPhone number removedx - my name is Tom. If it's possible to leave the link, I would really appreciate it since we are in the business of supplying a lot of Disneyland information.
I have only found this site in the last month and it seems like a great resource except when people take it upon themselves to continue to undo others information. If it is, indeed, forbidden to have any information about commercial sites or endeavors, there are many that need to be deleted. For example, the Anaheim Convention Center is a site that is commercial, the only way to be listed is as a member and they sell tickets and tours and hotel rooms there.
Please let me know if sites like this will be deleted, as well.
Thank you,
Tom 75.5.162.158
It has been suggested that the bulk of this portion be merged into a new document. This may also be a good place to include some of the various topics around Pressler and Grier. Your thoughts??? Tiggerjay 22:28, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
(undent) There's quite a problem with the information in Disney articles becoming very spread out. So before we go and fork this article we should first make sure that another such article doesn't already exist. Like with the management suggestion above, all that information is already in the Disney corporate pages, with templates set up to link past CEOs and Presidents. Check out Roy O. Disney's article for an example. -- Monotonehell 19:48, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
I have removed the split section until this can be better thought through and/or discussed here. Tiggerjay 19:34, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
This article is really long and has very few sources it would be nice to see more sources used. There is a lot of unverified information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Richandler86 ( talk • contribs).
Why not just add all 8 sections on to the list? They're all at the park. It states, "The park consists of various areas with separate themes." It does not say, "when it originally opened..." I would think that would be for the history section anyway. I think either include all 8 section and not leave 3 to an aftermention or remove the list and let the "Contents" box serve it's purpose.
Another note is why is Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev mentioned in the intro. Especially his lack of attendence or significance to the park. It belongs in history or I personally think it doesn't belong at all.
What do you guys think? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.180.28.234 ( talk • contribs).
In accordance with the discussion above, I have removed this part from the introduction to Disneyland since it is hardly relevant. Below is the exact text removed, so that it can be re-added later when an appropriate new home/section/etc can be found, or a general consensus to delete is made. Tiggerjay 12:00, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Didn't there use to be a section on accidents in this article? 85.227.226.149 21:32, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Those of you who've really taken ownership of the article may want to look at how factual the Management part is, and some of it seems more of a rant then an encyclopedia article. "The Disneyland Resort, Unfortunately, also has a reputation for having bad Management. A Rank of "General Lead" was briefly used in 2002-2003 to save on the cost of Labor but actually got the Assistant Managers in trouble for delegating most of their job functions to the general leads who in turn, did a better job on stage with both the Guests and Cast members. Lead status was suspended in the early 1990's with mixed results (mostly positive) and again, as a cost saving measure, but proved to be impossible as the Managers and Assistant Managers were unable to keep up on supervising duties. The problem was determined by senior park management that the Cast members were not as trust worthy as the Cast Members at Walt Disney World on many fronts including reporting for shifts and using good judgment. It should also be noted that the Cast as a whole is much younger at the Disneyland Resort, with the bulk of the Cast Members being in their early 20's where as the bulk of the Cast at Walt Disney World averages early to mid 30's in age." LordBleen 06:06, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Ive noticed that the other Disneyland Parks around the globe state the city where it is located, then state that its a suburb of a major city. I was wondering why this article does not have that listed here??
FROM Disneyland (disambiguation) 1)Disneyland may refer to:
Whats going on guys??
Isnt Anaheim located with the Los Angeles Basin. That is what is stated in the Orange County Article.
And if Anaheim is not part of the L.A. Metro area then why is it in the Greater Los Angeles Article, and L.A. has a sports team located in Orange County...??(That last one is debatable). I assume this is a move by a local Orange county attitude not to associate "anything" with L.A.-- Redspork02 ( talk) 18:33, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Once again, a web page from an "Orange County POV", I wont attempt to add the fact to the article anymore that Anaheim (and all of Orange County) are suburbs of Los Angeles. That is neither good nor bad, maybe its not your typical "suburb" but it just "is".
Anaheim gets L.A. TV stations. Anaheim is part of the LA/OC metro area. The baseball team is "Los Angeles" Angels (just like the Rams who played in Anaheim were the "Los Angeles Rams"). People commute from Anaheim to Los Angeles (just take a look at any Metorlink train on the Orange County line, or better yet, Interstate 5 during any rush hour).
Of course, that doesn't mean Anaheim is not its own city. It is. But Anaheim and Orange County owe their existence to Los Angeles. And in many ways today, Anaheim and all of Orange County continue to be suburbs of Los Angeles. Call it L.A.'s own version of East Rutherford.-- Redspork02 ( talk) 16:25, 26 December 2007 (UTC) [4] [5]
Like it or not bro, its in the "burbs". The source that I gave you is a Travel agency that names it a suburb of Los Angeles, and it agrees and I quote "And please don't tell the 3 million locals that they live in a suburb of Los Angeles.".... Let me put it like this, If cinema wouldnt be in L.A., then Walt Disney would have never come to So. Cal. and he would have never heard of the Orange growing town 26 miles south of L.A. and Disneyland would be somewhere else. Maybe it doesnt owe it anything but theres a love hate relationship there. Englands History (Magna Carta, our language (english), common law, ect..) is very much our history, pic up a history book. Im not going to change this article, but the history section of this article needs to be updated or enhanced its awfully vague. have fun kids, your buddy-- Redspork02 ( talk) 01:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
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I propose the Disneyland article be a feature article on the main page on May 5, when the celebrations for it's fiftieth anniversary commence. We could add something in the article that lets Main Page viewers know it is Disneyland's birthday straight away, and since my previous failed bid to get the article featured a lot of changes have been made for the better. I haven't put the article forward for selection because I want to sort out anything negative with the article that you lot have noticed before we put it forward. Speedway 19:14 9 April 2005 (UTC)
OK. I am going to put in a bid for Featured Article Candidate. But there are two main points to sort out. Say the article was featured, we would need to make the opening paragraph more wide-sweeping, including tidbits about attractions and the five lands etc. We also need an image. Now, I am quite surprised that the article doesn't have a photo of Sleeping Beauty Castle somewhere on the page - considering the castle is easily the most famous symbol of Disneyland. If we can get a good quality photo of the castle on the page, then that could be used as the featured article image. Please, I would like your thoughts, may they be positive or negative.-- Speedway 19:29, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)
The following points have been notified (as of 25 April) by the Featured Article board that need to be rectified before beginning the nomination process.
A much featured point in the object answers. On the points of the skinheads and the deaths at Disneyland, references must be provided by the author of this information or by someone else who is in the know. If no-one provides any references for the information, I will remove it.
Another heavily featured argument. Again, the author needs to back up his/her points with references and another side of the argument. I cannot provide references but I can provide another side of the argument.
We need to move the copyright section of the opening paragraph to another section, and 'beef' up the opening paragraph. I hope you all agree, and any help is appreciated. -- Speedway 15:33, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
According to this article, the first arrivals the day before the 50th anniversary came at 3pm. I was in that line, fairly near the front, and I was told by a cast member that the first was at noon. Which is correct? Is there any official source for that? -- Masterzora 02:40, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
I remember that Nicolae Ceausescu was declared citizen of Disneyland. Could somebdoy explain the concept and make a list of citizens? -- Error 02:10, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Looking up "citizen of Disneyland" in Google, it doesn't look like it's anything special. They apparently hand them out to anybody who asks for them. RickK 02:48, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)
I agree with Rick, everyone is a citizen of Disneyland as soon as they enter the gates. However, official "citizen" stickers can be obtained from various cast members inside the park or by visiting City Hall once inside. - Shinku Hisaki 04:51, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
I am removing "arguably the first of its kind". It is no such thing. Theme parks existed long before Disney. Coney Island has had them since the turn of the century. Brooklyn Nellie (Nricardo) 01:57, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)
All it takes is a little 'net research. Holiday World is also said to be the first themed amusement park, opening in 1946. Folks on coaster-net.com discussed this and said that Knott's wasn't themed throughout the park, and Holiday World had minimal rides (if any at all at the time). DL was themed completely from head to toe. Keep in mind that whatever is decided to be "the first" needs to have that WK page updated, all the pages that may also claim to be first need to be updated, along with the Amusement park page, so that wikipedia presents a single face. That particular discussion may be better on the Amusement park:Talk page. SpikeJones 12:15, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
It doesn't say that Disneyland was the first theme park. It says that Disneyland was the, "First of its kind." Which it undoubtedly was. Just look at how big of news the park's opening was. It was huge. Disneyland may not have been the first theme park, but it was definately the first "of its kind." -- Godismy420 18:50, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Walt Disney World was. DLR Fanatic 15:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
The fact that this entity is owned by Disney is mentioned in the article and in the categorization, therefore the entries added to the see also section are not necessary. Gentgeen 05:32, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I emailed Disneyland (via a form on the disneyland.com web site) to ask what the proper name of the park is. I received this in response:
The proper name is Disneyland park. However, the Park is part of the Disneyland Resort.
I don't know whether this clears anything up - should we replace all occurences of "Disneyland" with "Disneyland park" now? - but I figured I'd post the official word here. - Brian Kendig 15:23, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Team Disney Anaheim was the name given to Disneyland Resort Management by Paul Pressler in a bid to liven up the running of the place. The bright yellow building backstage in the Resort that houses the Anaheim branch of Imagineering, Disneyland Resort Marketing and Matt Ouimet's office etc is known in Disney literature as Team Disney Anaheim HQ. The name has fallen out of favour much less since Matt Ouimet became the big man of the place, but is still the official name of Disneyland Resort Management & Maintenance. I have re-edited what was previously 'the Disney Company' then 'Team Disney Anaheim' then 'the Disney Company' again to 'the Walt Disney Company'. Speedway 20:18 4 Jan 05 (UTC)
Someone added a "this article is in need of attention" notice to the article, but I can't find the article's entry in any of the categories on Wikipedia:Pages needing attention, so I don't know what attention that person feels it needs - can someone point me to the entry? - Brian Kendig 15:52, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
On the fac page, someone commented that it needed re-sectioning. Other than that as a possible source, I dunno. Didn't seem that bad to me, although it isn't quite up to featured article level yet. Vaoverland 17:53, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)
Incidentally - I've done a lot of work to the article in response to the fac comment that the article needed re-sectioning. If other people have ideas about how to make this closer to being a real featured article someday, please jump in. :) - Brian Kendig 22:33, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Hey, every other disneyland attraction that has more that the paragraph of info given in list of current Disneyland attractions has its own article--except the monorail and the railroad, which for some odd reason have left all of their info in the main disneyland article. This means that if I want to direct someone from the List of... page to more info on either attraction, I have to link them back to, e.g., Disneyland#Monorail, which seems like an inside-out way to do it. So, unless anyone objects soon, I'll go ahead & move those out into their own articles. (Normally I'd just do it but with all the activity & interest at the moment...) Elf | Talk 00:26, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I have been working on some other parts (mostly) trying to get the POV issue eased up a bit. I agree that the railroad and monorail sections could go separate. But, try to keep some of the stuff about Walt's backyard railroad as a predecessor and prototype for these Disneyland features in the main article if you can. I also feel we are missing a lot of history. In thsi article, we jump from the park as it opened in the 1950s and shortly thereafter all the way to the 1990s. Poof. OK, well it's magic, but... Maybe someone else can take a whack at it, I'm going to take a break. Vaoverland 00:52, Jan 15, 2005 (UTC)
OK, so maybe one article titled Disneyland transportation with redirects from Disneyland Monorail and Disneyland Railroad? The only problem with the "transportation" title is that that doesn't preclude discussing the parking lot trams, the main-street vehicles, the riverboats, and so on. Would Disneyland railways be a better combined title? And, oh yeah, the "Disneyland" in the title *would* preclude discussing the Disneyworld monorail--which we probably don't want to do, given your suggestion to talk about them together. Elf | Talk 20:18, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
This section could be much larger. Probably should be titled "Live entertainment". Questions--is the spelling "Slewfoot Sue"? And is it the Trash Can Band, Garbage Can Trio, or some combination--I've got it written down as several variations, even though they say exactly who they are at the end of every performance? Anyone who wants to add to, clean up, or come up with a better way for organizing this, don't let me stand in your way. Elf | Talk 21:24, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Andy 21:32 15 Jan 05
Yeah, I was wondering about Sluefoot. Guess I have to do more research... Hate when that happens. I'm not familiar with the main street residents. So I guess it won't be me adding anything. :-) Elf | Talk 21:48, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I think this article is off the fac list for now. We can try when its a little better. Vaoverland 02:18, Jan 20, 2005 (UTC)
Should the Characters have their own page? ( 205.250.167.76 04:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC))
I hope I haven't violated rules, but I just added a link to my website (non-commerical, I don't earn anything from it) that documents all of the large format, poster-sized maps sold in Disneyland from 1958 to today. My question to the community is whether it would be useful to drag the whole thing into Wikipedia as a page on Disneyland maps. I'm willing to do that, recognizing that I lose editorial control, but I really like Wikipedia's approach to content. So the first question is whether the community thinks that would be a useful addition?
Second question is whether you think I'm going to run into copyright problems. The maps are copyrighted by The Walt Disney Company, and so far I haven't had any trouble. If you go to the currently existing website at Mouse Maps, you see that I don't have entire maps on the site, but pieces. I woudn't want to violate Wikipedia's policies and it would seem to me that fair use would permit small pieces of the map to be used in this way. So, is there a problem with that?
Keep up the good work on the Disneyland page! -- billlund 22:06, July 9, 2005 (UTC)
To avoid a back-and-forth editing, I'll throw it here first. Fernando removed the following links:
The MiceAge and MousePlanet sites are generally regarded as 2 of the most reliable and Disney-Friendly news and information reporting websites. I believe MousePlanet was one of only 4 websites invited as part of the press during the July 50th birthday celebration. JimHillMedia would be another site worth linking to, although that site has expanded into some non-Disney stuff as well. The other two listed here I don't have any information on. SpikeJones 13:23, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
I propose that there be a subpage, List of Disneyland attractions, organized either by which "land" they appear in or by date of installation. (I think sorting by "land" would be the preferable option.) If anyone doesn't have any objections, I can start it. I would suggest that the list also include attractions that are no longer in operation as well as current ones. (I say "attractions" because that's what Disney says, and because not everything is a ride.) - Branddobbe
(COPIED from the Magic Kingdom page, just in case somebody here wanted to weigh in and isn't watching over there)
I started with something small, Liberty Square, to gauge reaction. I had brought this up a few months previous and received one positive comment and no dissenters, so I waited a while to make sure nobody else would care. From an article management viewpoint, it would help minimize problems with article naming and dab pages, along with making sure that updates that affect all parks are easily handled.
Anyway, because the various MK-style park pages are getting rather long and tedious, my suggestion was to merge/migrate all the various LAND paragraphs to their own individual pages. For example, we would list "Fantasyland" on the TokyoDL, WDW, DL, etc pages with a link to the main Fantasyland page, and on that page we would list all the attractions for ALL Fantasylands throughout the organization... along with the ability to discuss/point out differences between each of the parks without having to repeat ourselves silly.
Obviously, Liberty Square is minor to this concept as it doesn't exist anywhere else but WDW - not a lot to edit/retype/dig up. The immediate question that comes to mind (and why it's good to start small like this) is what *do* we put on the main MK page in place of listing all the attraction information for each area? SpikeJones 14:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Could someone verify the addition, about a heart "tumor" dislodging in a Space Mountain ride. Sound like an urban legend to me - if not, it has to be re-worded. -- Janke | Talk 06:56, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
"^ Although most people refer to the park as simply "Disneyland", the official name is "Disneyland Park". United States trademark law requires that a trademark such as "Disneyland" is always used as an adjective and never as a noun or verb. Therefore, "Xerox copier" and "Disneyland Park" are correct usage, while "use a Xerox" or "come to Disneyland" are not technically correct."
You know, I am hesitant to actually believe this. What about the parks at Walt Disney World? That's in the United States. Only Animal Kingdom has "Park" at the end of it. The other parks aren't "Magic Kingdom Park," "Epcot Park," or "Disney-MGM Studios Park." I think that footnote may have come from a rumor. You never see official names like "Chevrolet Corvette Automobile" or "The Sims 2 Computer Game," now, do you? -- Lyght 19:54, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
It is doubtful that Lilian Disney "tapped" the Morse code in the recording. What the literature says, is that the recording was changed, from a somewhat racy text, to the current one, in anticipation of a visit by Mrs. Disney, who knew Morse Code. -- Janke | Talk 06:11, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Two things. Firstly, I was just reading the article and I noticed that it mentioned that the only special freebies were the golden ears and the cupcakes. Is the special edition map worth mention? (Also, if I can get ahold of a decent scanner, should I scan the map and upload it?) Secondly, something I asked about a month ago, the page says that the first to line up for the event came in at 3pm. I was in that line, and I remember a cast member telling me that the first person to arrive came started waiting at noon. Is there an official source for the 3pm, or at least a more credible source than a guy who heard it from a guy? If not, would it be proper to change it to noon?
-- Masterzora 02:06, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
I would recommnend adding information and a list of original attractions, and that there is a plaque for each, and a golden aspect of each (i.e. a golden dumbo, golden light posts on main street, the golden teacup, etc.)
Bytebear 23:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I would also love to see a list of the hidden 50th mickeys. There are 50 of them scattered around the park. I have seen many of them but would love a page with a photo of each throughout the park.
Bytebear 23:35, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
There's a nice aerial photo of Disneyland on Commons, [2], but I have a slight inkling that it may be a copyvio. If not, it would be nice to have here. Can anybody determine if the stated May 2004 date is correct, by the status of the park in the photo? If it is not a copyvio (I wonder if the uploader/photographer could have flown over the park in May 2004?), then we might have a real gem for this page. -- Janke | Talk 19:36, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Should we make a section about how some people think that Disneyland just exists to make children buy Disney movies/products?
Should we give the characters their own page? ( 205.250.167.76 04:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC))
Nevermind. In the last couple of months various members have been around and tagged those characters that appear at Disney Parks. ( 154.5.194.215 23:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC))
There is a discussion about article naming and dab pages that is taking place in the Magic Kingdom page. Some of that discussion affects the Disneyland article. Please feel free to join in the discussion. ManoaChild 21:20, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm heading down to Disneyland and California Misadventure Feb 11-13 (their 50th year for my 50th year--amazing but true--). Any photos of anything in particular that anyone thinks we need? (My previous Dland photo contributions are here: User:Elf/photos (full view)#Parks.) I know there are lots of you closer to Anaheim who get there more often, but my sister's used to me dashing hither and yon at Dland with lenses and cameras and such, so thought I'd offer. Elf | Talk 23:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Here are some from the Elf Archives :-) -- not super but OK maybe? Let me know if you want me to add these somewhere specifically (like replace the (c) grizzly peak image). I just slapped together 5 images for the paradise pier but it's not a perfect panorama; I'll try to get something clearer, I guess.
Elf | Talk 00:08, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Pretty cool! I forgot to add, night time images of either park are always great additions to Wikipedia, as are images of the hotels. -- Speedway 18:17, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
I noted in this article earlier that the band has aleways been all-male. However, last week, we're pretty sure that we saw female members of the band. Can anyone verify this? And, if so, does anyone know when the policy changed? Elf | Talk 18:25, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Speaking from personal experience(I've been working there since April), Christmas and New years is the busiest time of the year for California Adventure and Disneyland(meaning the parks fill to capacity more often then than any other time of the year).-- Vercalos 06:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Reading over the sections referring to the Carrousel, and the intentional misspelling of the word, I was wondering if the disclaimer "as spelled by Disney," could be better phrased as (sic.) Has there been a previous argument over this? Whursey 18:24, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Many Disney park articles seem to be a bit lacking on the sort of objectivity that is required for an enyclopedia, and are quite clearly written by fans whose communal pet peeves aren't always necessarily relevant to this medium. Though the Disneyland article is by far the best of them all, parts like this still read like veritable MiceAge columns:
"Light bulbs, which were once replaced before they burned out, not only were run to burnout but were so numerous as to make the facades they outlined look almost toothless. Fans of the park decried the perceived decline in customer value and park quality and rallied for the dismissal of the management team."
I know we as fans are the ones to write these articles, but I think we shouldn't make ourselves too important. Let's stick to the facts.
I was an annual pass holder for 3 years, from 1984-1986. I know for a fact that in each of those years, they would close on Monday and Tuesday during the "Off Season", roughly from September through May. I know for a fact that this was done in 1984 and 1985. I do not know about 1986, because it was in that year that I moved from the area and did not go as often as I did before. The information for the park not being closed during the time of the filming of "National Lampoon's Vacation" must be incorrect. 72.161.165.250 14:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
In the ticket section of the article, it mentions that a 5-day pass to Disneyland in 2000 is only $99. I find this very unlikely. Although I did not visit Disneyland in 2000, I went there this year, and the price for ONE-day admission was approx. $60. Finally, with a 5-day pass in 2000 being $99, it would be cheaper than the price back in 1990, where a one-day was $23.50. So, I was wondering if someone could check the ticket prices to make sure they're accurate?
If someone has access to older ticket price data, please fill in the appropriate table. It would be nice to have the prices (and dates of price change) all the way back to 1982.-- Ahecht 21:15, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Certainly non-notable by itself, so requesting merge into here, if anything. If merge is not done, former article should be deleted entirely. (|-- UlTiMuS 21:13, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
I absolutely disagree with a merge as this article is already *way* oversized. Cburnett 22:36, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Let's add it to the see also section.-- Godismy420 18:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I've heard rumors that the Matterhorn's closing, permanently. Can anyone give any explanation?-- Vercalos 04:55, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
I oppose any and all merges into this article. As of this momment it is 55 Kb which is closer to doubling the recommended max than being near the max. See Wikipedia:Article size. Cburnett 16:07, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
I just made an edit to the "Disneyland in the 21st Century" Section (adding the sentence about the purchase of strawberry fields), and when I was finished, I saw that the article was really screwed up. I looked at the History and there were a whole bunch of edits by 71.110.228.140, but I'm new to this, so I didn't know how to check and see if it was vandalism, or if I accidently screwed it up, or what. So, I'm leaving this up to someone who knows what they're doing.-- Godismy420 05:34, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
If possible, something should be added about the fireworks display and how persons wishing to watch them have to find seats 3-4 hours ahead of time. If you are just walking through the park when the fireworks are going off, there is a virtual army of park workers with light wands who shout, harrass, push, and yes even kick people to keep them moving and stop them from looking up at the fireworks. I was at anaheim, and no kidding I saw women with strollers and elederly people with canes getting shouted at to "keep on moving" and if people looked up at the fireworks who were not in the seated area, 3-4 park workers would converge, shoving and hustling the people along. It was really a sad thing and I lost some respect for Disney. - Husnock 07:50, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't know that this can be judged simply by park attendance. The two Disneyland Resort theme parks don't have anywhere near the capacity of the Walt Disney World Resort, so this really isn't a fair way to evaluate the subject of popularity. If someone can find a better way to gauge this, then I'm more than happy to entertain it, but other than that it should probably be removed from the article. -- Andysund 10:37, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I couldn't find any mention about Disneyland's unique street address: 1313 S. Harbor Boulevard, tributing Mickey Mouse's initials, as the letter "M" is the thirteenth letter of the alphabet. Should this be added to the article? If it already is, let me know. Thanks! 67.120.75.136 02:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Friends, I agree that the DL article is completely oversized and needs work. Excessive kibbutzing about one sentence that had a fact tag added then removed is a bit overkill. Please refer to the Roy O. Disney article and the Walt Disney World Railroad articles for at least 2 other WP articles that contain this particular fact, or refer to any number of Walt Disney biographies, Disney tours, etc, for the citations that you are looking for. What's the real issue here -- how citation-detailed do we want the article to be; how detailed do we need the "Magic Kingdoms Around the World" section to be in this article about DL, or something else entirely? SpikeJones 20:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
After a little 'net digging (as I don't have any of the mentioned books on hand), I have uncovered the following items that can be used as springboards for the actual citation regarding Roy renaming/dedicating WDW to Walt (per this article, Walt Disney World Railroad , Walt Disney World, Roy O. Disney, and Walt Disney... to name but a few other WP articles that also refer to this info and will also need to contain said citation):
Since I don't have the actual citable items at my disposal, I can't add any of these to the aforementioned articles. If someone has any of these physical items available and can add the proper citation to the appropriate fact tag, that would be appreciated. Thanks! SpikeJones 03:58, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
As one who has to go through the process of having articles rated, I must add that this DL article stands no snowballs chance in hell of passing the editors for anything above a B rating. WHY? Because nothing in this article is referenced. You can write and write and write all the generally well-known tidbits of DL info you like, but without reference to a document or publication that says this article is researched, and not just contrived from memory, personal experiences, or bullsh-- this will remain a fourth-class article. It has already been turned down twice for an FA rating. WP's intent is to develop an on-line, open-air information source that has the appearance of being researched. A 55 MB article should probably have a FOOTNOTE section of 120-150 citations. This article has one! Good effin' luck!-- Magi Media 03:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry to offend some people's sensibilities with my encrypted expletives. Sometimes I become exasperated and let loose of me senses. However, I hope someone reckons the underlying message. it is a shame to see such a potentially great article go virtually unassessed because it is left without references. Like I said, been there---done that!-- Magi Media 15:22, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
The following was placed on my user pages, but since this is from an anon IP I doubt that they are watching their non-existent talk page...
Dear Mr. Hell,
Please don't delete my link on the Disneyland web page. You say this has nothing to do with Disneyland but it does. You say it is a commercial site and it is but it doesn't sell anything and we are across the street from Disneyland and help a lot of people, whether or not they buy anything.
Besides, I think DISNEYLAND is commercial. So, if you'd like to talk to me about your continued deletion of the information, please call me at xPhone number removedx - my name is Tom. If it's possible to leave the link, I would really appreciate it since we are in the business of supplying a lot of Disneyland information.
I have only found this site in the last month and it seems like a great resource except when people take it upon themselves to continue to undo others information. If it is, indeed, forbidden to have any information about commercial sites or endeavors, there are many that need to be deleted. For example, the Anaheim Convention Center is a site that is commercial, the only way to be listed is as a member and they sell tickets and tours and hotel rooms there.
Please let me know if sites like this will be deleted, as well.
Thank you,
Tom 75.5.162.158
It has been suggested that the bulk of this portion be merged into a new document. This may also be a good place to include some of the various topics around Pressler and Grier. Your thoughts??? Tiggerjay 22:28, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
(undent) There's quite a problem with the information in Disney articles becoming very spread out. So before we go and fork this article we should first make sure that another such article doesn't already exist. Like with the management suggestion above, all that information is already in the Disney corporate pages, with templates set up to link past CEOs and Presidents. Check out Roy O. Disney's article for an example. -- Monotonehell 19:48, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
I have removed the split section until this can be better thought through and/or discussed here. Tiggerjay 19:34, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
This article is really long and has very few sources it would be nice to see more sources used. There is a lot of unverified information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Richandler86 ( talk • contribs).
Why not just add all 8 sections on to the list? They're all at the park. It states, "The park consists of various areas with separate themes." It does not say, "when it originally opened..." I would think that would be for the history section anyway. I think either include all 8 section and not leave 3 to an aftermention or remove the list and let the "Contents" box serve it's purpose.
Another note is why is Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev mentioned in the intro. Especially his lack of attendence or significance to the park. It belongs in history or I personally think it doesn't belong at all.
What do you guys think? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.180.28.234 ( talk • contribs).
In accordance with the discussion above, I have removed this part from the introduction to Disneyland since it is hardly relevant. Below is the exact text removed, so that it can be re-added later when an appropriate new home/section/etc can be found, or a general consensus to delete is made. Tiggerjay 12:00, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Didn't there use to be a section on accidents in this article? 85.227.226.149 21:32, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Those of you who've really taken ownership of the article may want to look at how factual the Management part is, and some of it seems more of a rant then an encyclopedia article. "The Disneyland Resort, Unfortunately, also has a reputation for having bad Management. A Rank of "General Lead" was briefly used in 2002-2003 to save on the cost of Labor but actually got the Assistant Managers in trouble for delegating most of their job functions to the general leads who in turn, did a better job on stage with both the Guests and Cast members. Lead status was suspended in the early 1990's with mixed results (mostly positive) and again, as a cost saving measure, but proved to be impossible as the Managers and Assistant Managers were unable to keep up on supervising duties. The problem was determined by senior park management that the Cast members were not as trust worthy as the Cast Members at Walt Disney World on many fronts including reporting for shifts and using good judgment. It should also be noted that the Cast as a whole is much younger at the Disneyland Resort, with the bulk of the Cast Members being in their early 20's where as the bulk of the Cast at Walt Disney World averages early to mid 30's in age." LordBleen 06:06, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Ive noticed that the other Disneyland Parks around the globe state the city where it is located, then state that its a suburb of a major city. I was wondering why this article does not have that listed here??
FROM Disneyland (disambiguation) 1)Disneyland may refer to:
Whats going on guys??
Isnt Anaheim located with the Los Angeles Basin. That is what is stated in the Orange County Article.
And if Anaheim is not part of the L.A. Metro area then why is it in the Greater Los Angeles Article, and L.A. has a sports team located in Orange County...??(That last one is debatable). I assume this is a move by a local Orange county attitude not to associate "anything" with L.A.-- Redspork02 ( talk) 18:33, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Once again, a web page from an "Orange County POV", I wont attempt to add the fact to the article anymore that Anaheim (and all of Orange County) are suburbs of Los Angeles. That is neither good nor bad, maybe its not your typical "suburb" but it just "is".
Anaheim gets L.A. TV stations. Anaheim is part of the LA/OC metro area. The baseball team is "Los Angeles" Angels (just like the Rams who played in Anaheim were the "Los Angeles Rams"). People commute from Anaheim to Los Angeles (just take a look at any Metorlink train on the Orange County line, or better yet, Interstate 5 during any rush hour).
Of course, that doesn't mean Anaheim is not its own city. It is. But Anaheim and Orange County owe their existence to Los Angeles. And in many ways today, Anaheim and all of Orange County continue to be suburbs of Los Angeles. Call it L.A.'s own version of East Rutherford.-- Redspork02 ( talk) 16:25, 26 December 2007 (UTC) [4] [5]
Like it or not bro, its in the "burbs". The source that I gave you is a Travel agency that names it a suburb of Los Angeles, and it agrees and I quote "And please don't tell the 3 million locals that they live in a suburb of Los Angeles.".... Let me put it like this, If cinema wouldnt be in L.A., then Walt Disney would have never come to So. Cal. and he would have never heard of the Orange growing town 26 miles south of L.A. and Disneyland would be somewhere else. Maybe it doesnt owe it anything but theres a love hate relationship there. Englands History (Magna Carta, our language (english), common law, ect..) is very much our history, pic up a history book. Im not going to change this article, but the history section of this article needs to be updated or enhanced its awfully vague. have fun kids, your buddy-- Redspork02 ( talk) 01:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
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