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Stumbled on this article by accident, I thought I knew something about WW2 bombs by this was a new one on me. Good piece of work; kudos to the authors. Wee Curry Monster talk 16:26, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
This lengthy post with sources states that there were some very good reasons beyond wanting to see what bombs did without explosive - chiefly the closesness of major transportation links. GraemeLeggett ( talk) 16:02, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
“ | The Disney bomb was a ~4,500 lb rocket assisted concrete/armor piercing bomb. Designed to be dropped from 20,000 ft, a tail mounted set of rocket motors would ignite at 5,000 ft accelerating the weapon to a high impact velocity. The forged and hardened steel cylinder body with a sharply pointed nose contained about 500 lbs of Shellite (similar to US explosive compostition D). In the base of the bomb, two British No. 58 Pistol fuzes were mounted. The tail unit attached to an adapter plate mounted to the base of the bomb. Two suspension lugs were bolted to the bomb casing. The tail unit contained 19 3” rockets bundled together weighing about 900 lbs. Each motor contained 12.5 lbs. of cruciform shaped flashless cordite rocket propellant SU/K/X. An M111 mechanical time fuze activated a switch allowing electrical ignition of the rocket motors that was powered by a wind driven generator mounted on a conical fairing at the tail. The bomb was carried on external racks. Individual pullout wires were used to arm the M111 time fuze, the pistol fuzes and to allow free spinning of the wind generator. | ” |
— USSTAF, Armament Memorandum No. 3-133, 28 January 1945, p. 1-2. |
An evolution of the Disney bomb aka CP/RA were also tested during the Harken project. Which plane carried the 1650 lb CP/RAs? I think it was a B-29 but I might be wrong...
Keefer, I. J. (December 1947). Project Harken - part II Bombing and analysis and related subjects. American and British phase (Report). US Air Force. p. 8-54. Retrieved 22 June 2011.
-- Alberto Fernandez Fernandez ( talk) 17:32, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
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Clarify|Terrell puts initials tests at Orfordness, flying from Bovingdon and Woodbridge, and live tests in Hampshire|date=June 2011
The source I have - 92nd Bomb Group, Fame's Favoured Few pp 75-76 has an account of the Disney Project written by Pat Y. Spillman, who served as a bombadier on the test flights. He does state the bombing tests happened near Southampton. But, as that is actully in Hampshire, that accords with Terrell's account. He does say he flew out of Bovington, the 8th AF Headquarters and not his usual base. Although he makes no mention of Orfordness. Catsmeat ( talk) 16:02, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
I originally put in 14 feet long and 11 inches in diameter as they were the only dimensions I could find in a written source - Pat Y. Spillman's account in 92nd Bomb Group, Fame's Favoured Few (pp 75-76). However, the dimensions given by Tirrell (16 feet by 15 inches) now seem more likely to me for two reasons:
So I would be happy to see the dimensions changed, and Terrel's book quoted as a source for this. Catsmeat ( talk) 08:21, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
This article surely fails WP:LEAD; I can only imagine one question anyone could possibly have about the Disney bomb, and the lead section doesn't answer it. Lampman ( talk) 14:57, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
From photos I've seen reproduced in books, the two film stills showing the bomb(s) being dropped may be upside-down. The top photo in particular gives the impression that the bomb is being dropped tail-first, something that would defeat the purpose of a rocket-assisted bomb. Granted, it all depends on where the camera was when the film was taken, just thought I'd mention a possible mistake. Onward and upward!-- 172.190.128.79 ( talk) 21:25, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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Does that mean that it got its name from (etc.) or that people have surmised that it did so?
I think 'attributed' is frequently misused in US English - it should be reserved for instances in which there's an element of uncertainty. That's the reason for my query.
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Stumbled on this article by accident, I thought I knew something about WW2 bombs by this was a new one on me. Good piece of work; kudos to the authors. Wee Curry Monster talk 16:26, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
This lengthy post with sources states that there were some very good reasons beyond wanting to see what bombs did without explosive - chiefly the closesness of major transportation links. GraemeLeggett ( talk) 16:02, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
“ | The Disney bomb was a ~4,500 lb rocket assisted concrete/armor piercing bomb. Designed to be dropped from 20,000 ft, a tail mounted set of rocket motors would ignite at 5,000 ft accelerating the weapon to a high impact velocity. The forged and hardened steel cylinder body with a sharply pointed nose contained about 500 lbs of Shellite (similar to US explosive compostition D). In the base of the bomb, two British No. 58 Pistol fuzes were mounted. The tail unit attached to an adapter plate mounted to the base of the bomb. Two suspension lugs were bolted to the bomb casing. The tail unit contained 19 3” rockets bundled together weighing about 900 lbs. Each motor contained 12.5 lbs. of cruciform shaped flashless cordite rocket propellant SU/K/X. An M111 mechanical time fuze activated a switch allowing electrical ignition of the rocket motors that was powered by a wind driven generator mounted on a conical fairing at the tail. The bomb was carried on external racks. Individual pullout wires were used to arm the M111 time fuze, the pistol fuzes and to allow free spinning of the wind generator. | ” |
— USSTAF, Armament Memorandum No. 3-133, 28 January 1945, p. 1-2. |
An evolution of the Disney bomb aka CP/RA were also tested during the Harken project. Which plane carried the 1650 lb CP/RAs? I think it was a B-29 but I might be wrong...
Keefer, I. J. (December 1947). Project Harken - part II Bombing and analysis and related subjects. American and British phase (Report). US Air Force. p. 8-54. Retrieved 22 June 2011.
-- Alberto Fernandez Fernandez ( talk) 17:32, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
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Clarify|Terrell puts initials tests at Orfordness, flying from Bovingdon and Woodbridge, and live tests in Hampshire|date=June 2011
The source I have - 92nd Bomb Group, Fame's Favoured Few pp 75-76 has an account of the Disney Project written by Pat Y. Spillman, who served as a bombadier on the test flights. He does state the bombing tests happened near Southampton. But, as that is actully in Hampshire, that accords with Terrell's account. He does say he flew out of Bovington, the 8th AF Headquarters and not his usual base. Although he makes no mention of Orfordness. Catsmeat ( talk) 16:02, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
I originally put in 14 feet long and 11 inches in diameter as they were the only dimensions I could find in a written source - Pat Y. Spillman's account in 92nd Bomb Group, Fame's Favoured Few (pp 75-76). However, the dimensions given by Tirrell (16 feet by 15 inches) now seem more likely to me for two reasons:
So I would be happy to see the dimensions changed, and Terrel's book quoted as a source for this. Catsmeat ( talk) 08:21, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
This article surely fails WP:LEAD; I can only imagine one question anyone could possibly have about the Disney bomb, and the lead section doesn't answer it. Lampman ( talk) 14:57, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
From photos I've seen reproduced in books, the two film stills showing the bomb(s) being dropped may be upside-down. The top photo in particular gives the impression that the bomb is being dropped tail-first, something that would defeat the purpose of a rocket-assisted bomb. Granted, it all depends on where the camera was when the film was taken, just thought I'd mention a possible mistake. Onward and upward!-- 172.190.128.79 ( talk) 21:25, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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Does that mean that it got its name from (etc.) or that people have surmised that it did so?
I think 'attributed' is frequently misused in US English - it should be reserved for instances in which there's an element of uncertainty. That's the reason for my query.
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