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There are presently no references to non-fringe sources in this article to establish notability. I have not been able to find any so far in a web search. If anyone has some, please add them. Newspaper articles discussing this belief or alleged sightings are among the most common references used to establish notability for articles about supposed crytids. If none can be found then the article probably would not be sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Locke9k ( talk) 20:49, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
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It has been well over two years since this article was first flagged for not meeting Wikipedia's notability guidelines. I have therefore nominated it to be deleted under the Wikipedia Deletion Policy. - NickGrayLOL ( talk) 22:29, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
I've recently rewritten this article by way of the few descriptions of this creature from non-fringe sources ( cryptozoologists). However, as you can see, this material badly requires an independent expert source—preferably an academic specializing in the region—to make sense of it. It would appear some sort of tradition about said creature exists around the Lake Victoria area, but to say so would be WP:OR, and it's just as likely that there wasn't such a traction regarding lake monsters at all until colonialists started looking for one. See, for example, Loxton and Prothero's commentary on Mokele-mbembe. :bloodofox: ( talk) 20:47, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
May well be of interest to YEC, its also of interest to Cryptozoologists who are not YEC and folklorists. This just makes the page look very silly and very biased (not in a pro-science way either, folklore is a science). Slatersteven ( talk) 17:23, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
I don't have a firm opinion either way on whether this should have an article, but if anyone is interested, there are some additional sources from the British Newspaper Archive:
Quite possibly all completely made up or exaggerated and embellished by Jordan, but make of these what you will. Similar content to what's already in the article, but I'm happy to provide further details if anyone is interested. -- Michig ( talk) 14:10, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Another [ [1]]
Another.[ [2]] Slatersteven ( talk) 10:56, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Do we have this yet [ [3]]? Slatersteven ( talk) 13:42, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
I opened a discussion at Reliable Sources Noticeboard regarding the reliability of historical sources for this article. – dlthewave ☎ 02:39, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
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![]() | This article was nominated for deletion on 19 December 2018. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
There are presently no references to non-fringe sources in this article to establish notability. I have not been able to find any so far in a web search. If anyone has some, please add them. Newspaper articles discussing this belief or alleged sightings are among the most common references used to establish notability for articles about supposed crytids. If none can be found then the article probably would not be sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Locke9k ( talk) 20:49, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
???
Greencircle (
talk)
09:28, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
It has been well over two years since this article was first flagged for not meeting Wikipedia's notability guidelines. I have therefore nominated it to be deleted under the Wikipedia Deletion Policy. - NickGrayLOL ( talk) 22:29, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
I've recently rewritten this article by way of the few descriptions of this creature from non-fringe sources ( cryptozoologists). However, as you can see, this material badly requires an independent expert source—preferably an academic specializing in the region—to make sense of it. It would appear some sort of tradition about said creature exists around the Lake Victoria area, but to say so would be WP:OR, and it's just as likely that there wasn't such a traction regarding lake monsters at all until colonialists started looking for one. See, for example, Loxton and Prothero's commentary on Mokele-mbembe. :bloodofox: ( talk) 20:47, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
May well be of interest to YEC, its also of interest to Cryptozoologists who are not YEC and folklorists. This just makes the page look very silly and very biased (not in a pro-science way either, folklore is a science). Slatersteven ( talk) 17:23, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
I don't have a firm opinion either way on whether this should have an article, but if anyone is interested, there are some additional sources from the British Newspaper Archive:
Quite possibly all completely made up or exaggerated and embellished by Jordan, but make of these what you will. Similar content to what's already in the article, but I'm happy to provide further details if anyone is interested. -- Michig ( talk) 14:10, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Another [ [1]]
Another.[ [2]] Slatersteven ( talk) 10:56, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Do we have this yet [ [3]]? Slatersteven ( talk) 13:42, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
I opened a discussion at Reliable Sources Noticeboard regarding the reliability of historical sources for this article. – dlthewave ☎ 02:39, 13 January 2019 (UTC)