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What references should be put?
Exe csrss (
talk) 07:30, 26 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Yeah, chembook is not a good source, I would count it as a bit unreliable as it is an aggregator of stuff that may not be all correct. eg the presence in composting duck manure is counted as a "use", That's not a USE! Textbooks are good. Review articles are good. Magazine articles, TV documentaries, encyclopedia might also do. Primary research articles might be OK, but best if they are referenced and not criticised by others. English language is not required.
Graeme Bartlett (
talk) 11:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
The problem is that there are not many references other than pubchem. Even the German wikipedia, which is famous for having many articles about chemicals not found elsewhere, does not have any information.
Exe csrss (
talk) 17:10, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
There might not be much to say about this chemical. However, it is potentially
notable as the "first of its class" (according to the
organoselenium chemistry article). A cite for that would be a big start, and probably enough (along with the usual chemical data) to be a viable article. ChemSpider or Pubchem sometimes include journal-article refs for a compound.
DMacks (
talk) 22:06, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Two other uses I see by quick lit search: use as selenium source for thin-film metallic materials (
doi:10.1080/15421406.2011.601169) and as an anti--
knock additive (less effective than
tetraethyllead--lots of mentions and primary refs, Google Scholar and you can probably find a secondary one).
DMacks (
talk)
Popular ones among the chem/bio/pharm Wikipedia editors include
Accelrys,
PyMOL,
JSmol,
CCDC's Mercury, and
Avogadro (software). I think that particular ethanol is from Accelrys (
User:Benjah-bmm27 uses it, and has some notes about it on his userpage), but I think that might be commercial software. The others all have no-cost options and typically have similar visual-appearance settings.
DMacks (
talk) 14:12, 24 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Yeah that ethanol pic was done with Accelrys DS Visualizer, now named BIOVIA Discovery Studio Visualizer. I've been using
CCDC Mercury recently, as well as Avogadro. --
Ben (
talk) 22:07, 24 July 2020 (UTC)reply
I tried accelrys and avogadro, but the result was not like the images used on wikipedia
Exe csrss(
talk) 05:15, 16 September 2020 (UTC)reply
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What references should be put?
Exe csrss (
talk) 07:30, 26 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Yeah, chembook is not a good source, I would count it as a bit unreliable as it is an aggregator of stuff that may not be all correct. eg the presence in composting duck manure is counted as a "use", That's not a USE! Textbooks are good. Review articles are good. Magazine articles, TV documentaries, encyclopedia might also do. Primary research articles might be OK, but best if they are referenced and not criticised by others. English language is not required.
Graeme Bartlett (
talk) 11:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
The problem is that there are not many references other than pubchem. Even the German wikipedia, which is famous for having many articles about chemicals not found elsewhere, does not have any information.
Exe csrss (
talk) 17:10, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
There might not be much to say about this chemical. However, it is potentially
notable as the "first of its class" (according to the
organoselenium chemistry article). A cite for that would be a big start, and probably enough (along with the usual chemical data) to be a viable article. ChemSpider or Pubchem sometimes include journal-article refs for a compound.
DMacks (
talk) 22:06, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Two other uses I see by quick lit search: use as selenium source for thin-film metallic materials (
doi:10.1080/15421406.2011.601169) and as an anti--
knock additive (less effective than
tetraethyllead--lots of mentions and primary refs, Google Scholar and you can probably find a secondary one).
DMacks (
talk)
Popular ones among the chem/bio/pharm Wikipedia editors include
Accelrys,
PyMOL,
JSmol,
CCDC's Mercury, and
Avogadro (software). I think that particular ethanol is from Accelrys (
User:Benjah-bmm27 uses it, and has some notes about it on his userpage), but I think that might be commercial software. The others all have no-cost options and typically have similar visual-appearance settings.
DMacks (
talk) 14:12, 24 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Yeah that ethanol pic was done with Accelrys DS Visualizer, now named BIOVIA Discovery Studio Visualizer. I've been using
CCDC Mercury recently, as well as Avogadro. --
Ben (
talk) 22:07, 24 July 2020 (UTC)reply
I tried accelrys and avogadro, but the result was not like the images used on wikipedia
Exe csrss(
talk) 05:15, 16 September 2020 (UTC)reply