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Very cute cat small, fluffy with a touch of red and orange.
How is this a notable cat or article? There are no references, the cat itself is not noteworthy, and it is written in a cutesey coy fashion. This article should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.240.205.179 ( talk) 20:54, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
should be deleted. couldn't be more irrelevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.114.138.176 ( talk) 13:30, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
(Note: Parkwells left this comment in the closed GA review, which should no longer be edited. I have moved it here instead. — David Eppstein ( talk) 23:53, 9 October 2017 (UTC))
This is an article about a library cat that achieved international notability. It's great that it was awarded good article status, but that does not mean that there may not be improvements. There is also an extensive article about the bestselling book about him by Myron and Witter, and the many other books and translations spawned by this success. I edited that article extensively in order to ensure that cited reviews referred to the appropriate book and edition (adult and children's editions were reviewed separately, but all the reviews were initially jumbled as if they referred to the first adult book). There is also an article about Myron. I believe that it is more appropriate to put the paragraph about her additional books about this cat in her article rather than here, and have done so. This should not be yet another marketing article about these books. While Myron discussed her personal life in the book about Dewey, little of that appears in the article on Myron, and perhaps it should. Her bio is rather scant. Parkwells ( talk) 22:37, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
@ Parkwells: I think that considering the consensus that your edits are generally not improvements, it would help show good faith if you would discuss your changes before editing the article. Your edit summaries are unhelpful in explaining the changes you are making. You've continued to split paragraphs despite what was mentioned about MOS:BODY and the inhibition of the flow of prose. You've added uncited and redundant comments, and not followed the citation style of the article when adding cited material (see WP:CITEVAR). Some of your edits are improving the article, but many are not and could be construed as disruptive, so it benefit the article if they were discussed here, per WP:BRD. Remember, Wikipedia has no deadline.
As for your question "why not note the scale of international sales, translations, various editions - two types of children's books published, etc.?" If they were well integrated it might work, but it might also provide undue weight on the books and pad the article needlessly. Canadian Paul 18:03, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
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Have added cites - was working on the three related articles earlier - and changed the cites to your format. I was trying to follow what appeared to be the thinking of the editors on this- if you were interested in keeping the 2010 books, it seemed you might be interested in the earlier children's books. Here are suggested additions to the last two paragraphs: re, the proposed movie, which has never been developed - By May 2012, a final script had not been approved, and the film option was due to expire in June 2012. [1]
To start the last paragraph: - Based on their first book, Myron and Witter published two children's books: Dewey, the Library Cat, a picture book for young children [2] and Dewey: The True Story of a World-Famous Library Cat, a book for middle-grade readers. [3]
It's for your consideration. Parkwells ( talk) 19:57, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
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Sales of Dewey postcards are credited with raising funds of $4000 by May 2005 for the library - added this with the cite. Parkwells ( talk) 12:51, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
Dewey Readmore Books has been listed as one of the
Natural sciences good articles under the
good article criteria. If you can improve it further,
please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can
reassess it. Review: July 17, 2017. ( Reviewed version). |
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A fact from Dewey Readmore Books appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the
Did you know column on 11 August 2017 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
|
Very cute cat small, fluffy with a touch of red and orange.
How is this a notable cat or article? There are no references, the cat itself is not noteworthy, and it is written in a cutesey coy fashion. This article should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.240.205.179 ( talk) 20:54, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
should be deleted. couldn't be more irrelevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.114.138.176 ( talk) 13:30, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
(Note: Parkwells left this comment in the closed GA review, which should no longer be edited. I have moved it here instead. — David Eppstein ( talk) 23:53, 9 October 2017 (UTC))
This is an article about a library cat that achieved international notability. It's great that it was awarded good article status, but that does not mean that there may not be improvements. There is also an extensive article about the bestselling book about him by Myron and Witter, and the many other books and translations spawned by this success. I edited that article extensively in order to ensure that cited reviews referred to the appropriate book and edition (adult and children's editions were reviewed separately, but all the reviews were initially jumbled as if they referred to the first adult book). There is also an article about Myron. I believe that it is more appropriate to put the paragraph about her additional books about this cat in her article rather than here, and have done so. This should not be yet another marketing article about these books. While Myron discussed her personal life in the book about Dewey, little of that appears in the article on Myron, and perhaps it should. Her bio is rather scant. Parkwells ( talk) 22:37, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
@ Parkwells: I think that considering the consensus that your edits are generally not improvements, it would help show good faith if you would discuss your changes before editing the article. Your edit summaries are unhelpful in explaining the changes you are making. You've continued to split paragraphs despite what was mentioned about MOS:BODY and the inhibition of the flow of prose. You've added uncited and redundant comments, and not followed the citation style of the article when adding cited material (see WP:CITEVAR). Some of your edits are improving the article, but many are not and could be construed as disruptive, so it benefit the article if they were discussed here, per WP:BRD. Remember, Wikipedia has no deadline.
As for your question "why not note the scale of international sales, translations, various editions - two types of children's books published, etc.?" If they were well integrated it might work, but it might also provide undue weight on the books and pad the article needlessly. Canadian Paul 18:03, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
References
Have added cites - was working on the three related articles earlier - and changed the cites to your format. I was trying to follow what appeared to be the thinking of the editors on this- if you were interested in keeping the 2010 books, it seemed you might be interested in the earlier children's books. Here are suggested additions to the last two paragraphs: re, the proposed movie, which has never been developed - By May 2012, a final script had not been approved, and the film option was due to expire in June 2012. [1]
To start the last paragraph: - Based on their first book, Myron and Witter published two children's books: Dewey, the Library Cat, a picture book for young children [2] and Dewey: The True Story of a World-Famous Library Cat, a book for middle-grade readers. [3]
It's for your consideration. Parkwells ( talk) 19:57, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
References
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Sales of Dewey postcards are credited with raising funds of $4000 by May 2005 for the library - added this with the cite. Parkwells ( talk) 12:51, 16 October 2017 (UTC)