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This page is clearly just a starting point. I don't even know where to start, but I figured a Common Gameplay Elements section was warranted, and the series page will give us a place to dump and expand on the allusions to the Divine Comedy portion. Other Media clearly fits, as well.
I'm inclined to include a rough timeline for the series as well, though I'm not sure if this could be handled in an encyclopedic manner. Cheers, Lankybugger 19:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
It's just four points about how DMC2 contributed to the series. If we're going to have that, it should also list how games 1 and 3 contributed. And it should lose the language about "despite people being mean to DMC2, it helped make DMC3 so popular." -- Boradis 20:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Just a question, but should we include this in the article? It was covered by a couple different news sites so it probably warrants a mention somewhere, but I'm not sure if it should be mentioned here in the series page or as a portion of the Devil May Cry 4 development section. Thoughts? Cheers, Lankybugger ○ speak ○ see ○ 04:08, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I added a context tag to the article. I believe that it lacks enough introductory text to be easily understood by a non-player. Assistance with correcting this would be appreciated, since I have no interest in joining DMCTF (due to, hmm... personal disagreement with some of the methods used, which I shall refrain from discussing...) but would desire some improvement on the DMC series article anyway. Thanks to everyone who helps. -- Warp L. Obscura 05:56, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
And do feel free to remove it once sufficient consensus has been attained, the things are eyesores. -- Warp L. Obscura 13:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Which game was it where you first had to change the attacks used in your combo so as to maintain the style rank? -- Warp L. Obscura 13:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Another note... why are we calling grouping three games together an innovation? Not only has it been done before, it doesn't really affect the gameplay. The Anniversery Collection should be removed from the section. Midaki 01:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
THere has been an announcement of a PSP version/sequel, but that was when the PSP was first released, and no title, or information, or anything, has been released since. Should we mention it? Midaki 01:47, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I really wish Dante had been in SCIII, but he wasn't. Granted we have a cite supporting that it was planned but didn't go through, but is it really worth including? The bottom line on a fact like this is "here's something that didn't happen." It's kind of fancrufty. -- Boradis 21:08, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Think we should make an article for the comic adaptation of DMC1 by Dreamwave Productions? I think it only got to two issues before Dreamwave went bankrupt, but that's at least as many issues as the manga. I had like issue one, but don't have it now. Next time I go to a comic shop though I'll check through the bins. There's no immediate need for this, it just happened to cross my mind. Anyway, I'll add a note on this page. -- Boradis 21:42, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
They planned 4 but only made 3. It ends with Virgil's final defeat and dante being knocked out by Trish. - The 4th Snake 21:50, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't we add a plot of the series here, nothing long but it needs something.- 凶 16:30, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes. but as you said nothing too long, like the series revolces around Dante son of the dark knight Sparda who saved earth 2,000 years ago.- hirf —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hirf ( talk • contribs) 21:49, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
This is in regards to the request made at the VG Assessment page. Dunno why you asked for assessment and GAC at the same time, but what the heck. I'm rating this article as B-class, Mid-importance. Here are a few tips to improve the article.
- The screenshot you have in "Common Gameplay Elements" is awful.
- The plot section opens with DMC3, without ever having explained that they don't go in order and that DMC3 is the first chronologically.
- Overall, the Plot section and down is good, but above it is a little weak. The lead needs to be expanded, explaining more about what the DMC series is about. The only thing I know about the series from reading the lead is that it's a game series about a guy named Dante, and he has conflicts with demons around the world. It needs to summarize the series a little better.
- Expand the series origins a bit, if you can. What you have now is good, but this needs to be a lot larger, like the "Development" section for a game article.
Good luck at GAC! After the work you guys have done getting DMC 1, 2 and 3 to FA in the last few weeks, I'm sure that you can make this article just as good. -- PresN 05:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Or rather, "divine comedy!" I've been bummed about the (rightful) removal of "The Divine Comedy" I ORiginally added, so I've been looking for some cites of some sort. I know MobyGames is a reliable source for stuff like sales and aggregated reviews, but what about the trivia there? I'd like to use it, but I'm not sure if it's any better than IMDB or a Wikipedia trivia section. -- Boradis 08:28, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
The plot section says
The currently unreleased Devil May Cry 4 takes place last.
Then later it states
It is not yet known if the events in Devil May Cry 2 are considered canonical, and all subsequent releases in the series have been placed chronologically before it (including the upcoming Devil May Cry 4).
The first says 4 is last in chronological but then says it isn't, which is right?
The order is 3,1,4,2. - The 4th Snake 21:51, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Is there anything official that can be cited here to confirm the chronology of what is posted in the main article? -- Aoikumo ( talk) 05:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Ah, found one myself, in the Game Informer interview with Kobayashi from the Official Game Informer site Article:
GI: So chronologically, DMC 4 will take place after DMC 2?
Kobayashi: The way we want you to see it is it will go from 3 to 1 to 4 as a flow of time.
GI: So are the events of 2 being discounted from the timeline?
Kobayashi: If you events of 2 are in the timeline, they occur very far after 4. In 4, the Dante is a little bit older than the Dante in DMC 1.
--
Aoikumo (
talk)
05:57, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I have some considerations before I pass this:
Once you've done this, PM me and I'll take another look. David Fuchs ( talk / frog blast the vent core!) 00:01, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
One more thing: It might make more sense to scrap the plot section altogether. Instead, take the games and each give a short plot introduction with a link to the main game. See Halo (series) for what I mean. It just seems a better way to organize it. David Fuchs ( talk / frog blast the vent core!) 19:52, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Comment: I'm going to be condensing the plot section right now. David, if you're online right now and about to fail the GA because of that, would you mind waiting maybe thirty minutes and checking back? Thanks. Cheers, Lanky TALK 00:14, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
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This page is clearly just a starting point. I don't even know where to start, but I figured a Common Gameplay Elements section was warranted, and the series page will give us a place to dump and expand on the allusions to the Divine Comedy portion. Other Media clearly fits, as well.
I'm inclined to include a rough timeline for the series as well, though I'm not sure if this could be handled in an encyclopedic manner. Cheers, Lankybugger 19:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
It's just four points about how DMC2 contributed to the series. If we're going to have that, it should also list how games 1 and 3 contributed. And it should lose the language about "despite people being mean to DMC2, it helped make DMC3 so popular." -- Boradis 20:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Just a question, but should we include this in the article? It was covered by a couple different news sites so it probably warrants a mention somewhere, but I'm not sure if it should be mentioned here in the series page or as a portion of the Devil May Cry 4 development section. Thoughts? Cheers, Lankybugger ○ speak ○ see ○ 04:08, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I added a context tag to the article. I believe that it lacks enough introductory text to be easily understood by a non-player. Assistance with correcting this would be appreciated, since I have no interest in joining DMCTF (due to, hmm... personal disagreement with some of the methods used, which I shall refrain from discussing...) but would desire some improvement on the DMC series article anyway. Thanks to everyone who helps. -- Warp L. Obscura 05:56, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
And do feel free to remove it once sufficient consensus has been attained, the things are eyesores. -- Warp L. Obscura 13:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Which game was it where you first had to change the attacks used in your combo so as to maintain the style rank? -- Warp L. Obscura 13:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Another note... why are we calling grouping three games together an innovation? Not only has it been done before, it doesn't really affect the gameplay. The Anniversery Collection should be removed from the section. Midaki 01:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
THere has been an announcement of a PSP version/sequel, but that was when the PSP was first released, and no title, or information, or anything, has been released since. Should we mention it? Midaki 01:47, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I really wish Dante had been in SCIII, but he wasn't. Granted we have a cite supporting that it was planned but didn't go through, but is it really worth including? The bottom line on a fact like this is "here's something that didn't happen." It's kind of fancrufty. -- Boradis 21:08, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Think we should make an article for the comic adaptation of DMC1 by Dreamwave Productions? I think it only got to two issues before Dreamwave went bankrupt, but that's at least as many issues as the manga. I had like issue one, but don't have it now. Next time I go to a comic shop though I'll check through the bins. There's no immediate need for this, it just happened to cross my mind. Anyway, I'll add a note on this page. -- Boradis 21:42, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
They planned 4 but only made 3. It ends with Virgil's final defeat and dante being knocked out by Trish. - The 4th Snake 21:50, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't we add a plot of the series here, nothing long but it needs something.- 凶 16:30, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes. but as you said nothing too long, like the series revolces around Dante son of the dark knight Sparda who saved earth 2,000 years ago.- hirf —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hirf ( talk • contribs) 21:49, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
This is in regards to the request made at the VG Assessment page. Dunno why you asked for assessment and GAC at the same time, but what the heck. I'm rating this article as B-class, Mid-importance. Here are a few tips to improve the article.
- The screenshot you have in "Common Gameplay Elements" is awful.
- The plot section opens with DMC3, without ever having explained that they don't go in order and that DMC3 is the first chronologically.
- Overall, the Plot section and down is good, but above it is a little weak. The lead needs to be expanded, explaining more about what the DMC series is about. The only thing I know about the series from reading the lead is that it's a game series about a guy named Dante, and he has conflicts with demons around the world. It needs to summarize the series a little better.
- Expand the series origins a bit, if you can. What you have now is good, but this needs to be a lot larger, like the "Development" section for a game article.
Good luck at GAC! After the work you guys have done getting DMC 1, 2 and 3 to FA in the last few weeks, I'm sure that you can make this article just as good. -- PresN 05:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Or rather, "divine comedy!" I've been bummed about the (rightful) removal of "The Divine Comedy" I ORiginally added, so I've been looking for some cites of some sort. I know MobyGames is a reliable source for stuff like sales and aggregated reviews, but what about the trivia there? I'd like to use it, but I'm not sure if it's any better than IMDB or a Wikipedia trivia section. -- Boradis 08:28, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
The plot section says
The currently unreleased Devil May Cry 4 takes place last.
Then later it states
It is not yet known if the events in Devil May Cry 2 are considered canonical, and all subsequent releases in the series have been placed chronologically before it (including the upcoming Devil May Cry 4).
The first says 4 is last in chronological but then says it isn't, which is right?
The order is 3,1,4,2. - The 4th Snake 21:51, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Is there anything official that can be cited here to confirm the chronology of what is posted in the main article? -- Aoikumo ( talk) 05:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Ah, found one myself, in the Game Informer interview with Kobayashi from the Official Game Informer site Article:
GI: So chronologically, DMC 4 will take place after DMC 2?
Kobayashi: The way we want you to see it is it will go from 3 to 1 to 4 as a flow of time.
GI: So are the events of 2 being discounted from the timeline?
Kobayashi: If you events of 2 are in the timeline, they occur very far after 4. In 4, the Dante is a little bit older than the Dante in DMC 1.
--
Aoikumo (
talk)
05:57, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I have some considerations before I pass this:
Once you've done this, PM me and I'll take another look. David Fuchs ( talk / frog blast the vent core!) 00:01, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
One more thing: It might make more sense to scrap the plot section altogether. Instead, take the games and each give a short plot introduction with a link to the main game. See Halo (series) for what I mean. It just seems a better way to organize it. David Fuchs ( talk / frog blast the vent core!) 19:52, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Comment: I'm going to be condensing the plot section right now. David, if you're online right now and about to fail the GA because of that, would you mind waiting maybe thirty minutes and checking back? Thanks. Cheers, Lanky TALK 00:14, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
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