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Did you know... that desert kites in the Middle East and North Africa were used as traps for
wild game?
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Places where the wall is bent outward, akin to the letter omega. Not sure how to formulate it.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 14:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)reply
"which are interpreted as" - "which have been interpreted as"
If much larger and smaller sizes are also known, is the 10k sq m just an average then? If so that should be noted.
Add comma after "were eroded or submerged"
"although they occur at their margins" - I may be wrong but I think the source is saying they occur at the margins of mountains regions rather than that of endorheic basins, so should be clarified
Can't do anything about this, sorry.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 14:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)reply
"are known from Europe" - given the structure of this sentence, change to "have been found in Europe"
"Mesolithic-Neolithic age" - maybe "the Mesolithic and Neolithic ages"?
Consider rewording " in North America structures used into the 19th century AD known as drive lines," to something like "North America, where structures known as drive lines have been used into the 19th century AD,"
I don't think
drive line is linking to the correct article
@
Jo-Jo Eumerus: Thanks! I've done some minor copyediting as I said on a second pass; of course, feel free to change them back if you find them to be incorrect or unhelpful, but I am happy to promote this to GA now. Great work!
eviolite(talk) 15:09, 26 April 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Jo-Jo Eumerus: See my comments above for a first pass; I might go through and do minor copyedits later as well.
eviolite(talk) 14:24, 26 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Did you know nomination
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The result was: promoted by
SL93 (
talk) 06:26, 10 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is not needed as this is one of the first five nominations. Looks ready to go. Congratulations on this excellent article!
Thriley (
talk) 01:54, 10 May 2022 (UTC)reply
References
^Crassard et al. 2022, pp. 4–5. sfn error: no target: CITEREFCrassardAbu-AzizehBargeBrochier2022 (
help)
Israel v. Palestine?
What is the preferred terminology if you are only talking about the region? I know nothing about whatever consensus there might already be in this wiki-war zone.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 11:33, 18 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Usually mention both. But are there actually any kites in the
State of Palestine? –
Joe (
talk) 12:58, 18 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Based on the map
here it seems like there is one kite in the West Bank.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 13:09, 18 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Aha. That would be
Ein Gedi, I think. Well spotted. –
Joe (
talk) 16:00, 18 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Recent addition
Thanks for the addition, but
this addition needs some work.
Proseline is generally considered a bad style; the new information ideally should be integrated in the existing text, not dropped in as an unrelated paragraph. That and the citation format isn't congruent with the rest of the article. Putting this here as a comment largely because myself I prefer to update articles only at the end of the year, especially if the information in question is of the "breaking news" variety that is often clarified or debunked later.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 08:54, 30 May 2023 (UTC)reply
We should also point out (as the authors of the paper do) that this is not the first known depiction of a kite in rock art. The extremely precise part is what's new. –
Joe (
talk) 12:17, 30 May 2023 (UTC)reply
My bad, apologies for a poor addition.
Euor (
talk) 16:35, 30 May 2023 (UTC)reply
I've rewritten the addition. It wasn't so much a "poor addition" and mainly needed some format rewrite.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 07:20, 31 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Thank you. I just stumbled over the news, skimmed the article, then figured I'd add the information on an impulse. But I should have paid more attention to format and so on, as I see this article has been given much care and attention. Wish you a good day.--
Euor (
talk) 19:29, 31 May 2023 (UTC)reply
A fact from Desert kite appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 May 2022 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that desert kites in the Middle East and North Africa were used as traps for
wild game?
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Archaeology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Archaeology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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Places where the wall is bent outward, akin to the letter omega. Not sure how to formulate it.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 14:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)reply
"which are interpreted as" - "which have been interpreted as"
If much larger and smaller sizes are also known, is the 10k sq m just an average then? If so that should be noted.
Add comma after "were eroded or submerged"
"although they occur at their margins" - I may be wrong but I think the source is saying they occur at the margins of mountains regions rather than that of endorheic basins, so should be clarified
Can't do anything about this, sorry.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 14:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)reply
"are known from Europe" - given the structure of this sentence, change to "have been found in Europe"
"Mesolithic-Neolithic age" - maybe "the Mesolithic and Neolithic ages"?
Consider rewording " in North America structures used into the 19th century AD known as drive lines," to something like "North America, where structures known as drive lines have been used into the 19th century AD,"
I don't think
drive line is linking to the correct article
@
Jo-Jo Eumerus: Thanks! I've done some minor copyediting as I said on a second pass; of course, feel free to change them back if you find them to be incorrect or unhelpful, but I am happy to promote this to GA now. Great work!
eviolite(talk) 15:09, 26 April 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Jo-Jo Eumerus: See my comments above for a first pass; I might go through and do minor copyedits later as well.
eviolite(talk) 14:24, 26 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Did you know nomination
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
SL93 (
talk) 06:26, 10 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is not needed as this is one of the first five nominations. Looks ready to go. Congratulations on this excellent article!
Thriley (
talk) 01:54, 10 May 2022 (UTC)reply
References
^Crassard et al. 2022, pp. 4–5. sfn error: no target: CITEREFCrassardAbu-AzizehBargeBrochier2022 (
help)
Israel v. Palestine?
What is the preferred terminology if you are only talking about the region? I know nothing about whatever consensus there might already be in this wiki-war zone.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 11:33, 18 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Usually mention both. But are there actually any kites in the
State of Palestine? –
Joe (
talk) 12:58, 18 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Based on the map
here it seems like there is one kite in the West Bank.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 13:09, 18 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Aha. That would be
Ein Gedi, I think. Well spotted. –
Joe (
talk) 16:00, 18 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Recent addition
Thanks for the addition, but
this addition needs some work.
Proseline is generally considered a bad style; the new information ideally should be integrated in the existing text, not dropped in as an unrelated paragraph. That and the citation format isn't congruent with the rest of the article. Putting this here as a comment largely because myself I prefer to update articles only at the end of the year, especially if the information in question is of the "breaking news" variety that is often clarified or debunked later.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 08:54, 30 May 2023 (UTC)reply
We should also point out (as the authors of the paper do) that this is not the first known depiction of a kite in rock art. The extremely precise part is what's new. –
Joe (
talk) 12:17, 30 May 2023 (UTC)reply
My bad, apologies for a poor addition.
Euor (
talk) 16:35, 30 May 2023 (UTC)reply
I've rewritten the addition. It wasn't so much a "poor addition" and mainly needed some format rewrite.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 07:20, 31 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Thank you. I just stumbled over the news, skimmed the article, then figured I'd add the information on an impulse. But I should have paid more attention to format and so on, as I see this article has been given much care and attention. Wish you a good day.--
Euor (
talk) 19:29, 31 May 2023 (UTC)reply