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The result of the move request was: moved. Unopposed for over two weeks. Jenks24 ( talk) 14:14, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
German Clasico →
Der Klassiker – As far as I know the rivalry between BVB and FCB is called Der Klassiker, with sources including FIFA, Bundeliga, and many pundits in football addressing it with the aforementioned name. Sources are as follows. While the term German Clasico is not seen in such respective sources, but more as a reference to (or/and) comparing to the 'El Clasico' in Spain. (Supercup Clash addressed as Supercup Klassiker [
1]) (FIFA article reffering to the clash between the teams [
2]) (Bundeliga Official Youtube Channel [
3])
S1028 (
talk) 11:13, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
I believe this whole entry is incredibly misleading. "Der Klassiker" is not a set term for a football match in germany, it can be used to refer to any "classic" matchup. If anything, though, the match Bayern-Mönchengladbach is specifically referred to as that. That matchup also has a much richer history than Bayern-Dortmund.
"German Clasico" is a new term that came into the world in non-german countries, likely caused by the lack of knowledge regarding actual german rivalries. To make it clear: Bayern-Dortmund is NOT, explicitely not, a rivalry. Schalke-Dortmund, Bayern-Gladbach, Hamburg-St.Pauli, Bayern-1860, those are big rivalries of german football. This whole thing here is more of a social media phenomenon than an actual, as perceived by fans of both clubs, rivalry.
I would suggest complete deletion of this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.136.11.199 ( talk) 19:54, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I have added hatnotes to the article as per this discussion. I believe there is a sufficient rivalry between these teams to merit an article, but the article itself needs a lot of improvement to justify its existence and make it worth reading. I would also support a renaming to something like "Borussia Dortmund–FC Bayern Munich rivalry" possibly with a ridirect at Der Klassiker. The name is an invention of the media to sell more advertising and TV subscription for the fixture by overplaying its importance, so we shouldn't encourage it really. Crowsus ( talk) 12:49, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved. Unopposed for over two weeks. Jenks24 ( talk) 14:14, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
German Clasico →
Der Klassiker – As far as I know the rivalry between BVB and FCB is called Der Klassiker, with sources including FIFA, Bundeliga, and many pundits in football addressing it with the aforementioned name. Sources are as follows. While the term German Clasico is not seen in such respective sources, but more as a reference to (or/and) comparing to the 'El Clasico' in Spain. (Supercup Clash addressed as Supercup Klassiker [
1]) (FIFA article reffering to the clash between the teams [
2]) (Bundeliga Official Youtube Channel [
3])
S1028 (
talk) 11:13, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
I believe this whole entry is incredibly misleading. "Der Klassiker" is not a set term for a football match in germany, it can be used to refer to any "classic" matchup. If anything, though, the match Bayern-Mönchengladbach is specifically referred to as that. That matchup also has a much richer history than Bayern-Dortmund.
"German Clasico" is a new term that came into the world in non-german countries, likely caused by the lack of knowledge regarding actual german rivalries. To make it clear: Bayern-Dortmund is NOT, explicitely not, a rivalry. Schalke-Dortmund, Bayern-Gladbach, Hamburg-St.Pauli, Bayern-1860, those are big rivalries of german football. This whole thing here is more of a social media phenomenon than an actual, as perceived by fans of both clubs, rivalry.
I would suggest complete deletion of this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.136.11.199 ( talk) 19:54, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I have added hatnotes to the article as per this discussion. I believe there is a sufficient rivalry between these teams to merit an article, but the article itself needs a lot of improvement to justify its existence and make it worth reading. I would also support a renaming to something like "Borussia Dortmund–FC Bayern Munich rivalry" possibly with a ridirect at Der Klassiker. The name is an invention of the media to sell more advertising and TV subscription for the fixture by overplaying its importance, so we shouldn't encourage it really. Crowsus ( talk) 12:49, 27 February 2018 (UTC)