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We only include people notable enough to have WP articles. Full professors who do not currently have articles could probably justify them by the standards in
WP:PROF, but they may not be added until the articles have been accepted here. DGG (
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Certainly not, it is not just for disambiguation's sake, but also it would put this department above others (is this suddenly THE department?), and would be out of line compared to other university department articles, both inside and outside of the University of Cambridge (against
WP:CONSISTENCY, compare even the similarly long
Department of Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic, University of Cambridge). Also, its unclear which department this would be referring to; if
the department at Tsinghua were to put information about their page on an article of that name, it wouldn't necessarily be out of line, the title not being specific (I know that last point is a little iffy, given the name is referring to the specific department, but my previous points do stand)
Shadowssettle(
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The Cavendish Laboratory is named, so is not really comparable. Other examples without names are specific institutes, rather than departments, where confusion is less likely. For example, the
Institute for Manufacturing is quite identifiable, whereas a general "Department of xyz" is much more surprising without a institution name
Shadowssettle(
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Someone who knows the department/institute would recognize it, it isn't the purpose of titles to convoy information other than the subject's name. Crouch, Swale (
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21:32, 6 January 2019 (UTC)reply
It's just generally not how things are done on Wikipedia. Institutes and centres are generally viewed as being more autonomous, and so are not generally put with the name, but I think you'll find it almost universal that departments are named with their university.
WP:CONSISTENCY is relevant, even now, as why is this one suddenly different? Should we move
Department of Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic, University of Cambridge, just because it's also unique and long? That's not a point to bring up here, but something much more general across Wikipedia's university coverage. Also, there's no point in moving to a page it is likely have to move from later, which just puts this argument further along the line again. I don't know why this is a point of contention even, the suggested move is a sensible name for the article.
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As far as I'm aware per
WP:PRECISE WP convention is that we do tend to use just the name even if a qualifier is often added in speech etc. It seems appropriate to have this one disambiguated (due to the Tarsadia one) but Department of Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic doesn't appear to need it. Its
website doesn't even include "University of Cambridge" in the title, not even as a qualifier. Many albums and films may be said to be unrecognizable without an "(Album)" or "(film)" qualifier but those that don't need it don't have it. The only exceptions I can think of are
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (UK Parliament constituencies),
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (U.S. state and territory highways) and
WP:UKPLACE. There doesn't appear to be such a guideline for university departments. Crouch, Swale (
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18:51, 7 January 2019 (UTC)reply
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You haven't said what you think is wrong with the coordinates in the article, and they appear to be correct. If you still think that there is an error, you'll need to supply a clear explanation of what it is.
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We only include people notable enough to have WP articles. Full professors who do not currently have articles could probably justify them by the standards in
WP:PROF, but they may not be added until the articles have been accepted here. DGG (
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13:19, 13 November 2017 (UTC)reply
Requested move 4 January 2019
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Certainly not, it is not just for disambiguation's sake, but also it would put this department above others (is this suddenly THE department?), and would be out of line compared to other university department articles, both inside and outside of the University of Cambridge (against
WP:CONSISTENCY, compare even the similarly long
Department of Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic, University of Cambridge). Also, its unclear which department this would be referring to; if
the department at Tsinghua were to put information about their page on an article of that name, it wouldn't necessarily be out of line, the title not being specific (I know that last point is a little iffy, given the name is referring to the specific department, but my previous points do stand)
Shadowssettle(
talk)20:50, 5 January 2019 (UTC)reply
The Cavendish Laboratory is named, so is not really comparable. Other examples without names are specific institutes, rather than departments, where confusion is less likely. For example, the
Institute for Manufacturing is quite identifiable, whereas a general "Department of xyz" is much more surprising without a institution name
Shadowssettle(
talk)20:56, 6 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Someone who knows the department/institute would recognize it, it isn't the purpose of titles to convoy information other than the subject's name. Crouch, Swale (
talk)
21:32, 6 January 2019 (UTC)reply
It's just generally not how things are done on Wikipedia. Institutes and centres are generally viewed as being more autonomous, and so are not generally put with the name, but I think you'll find it almost universal that departments are named with their university.
WP:CONSISTENCY is relevant, even now, as why is this one suddenly different? Should we move
Department of Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic, University of Cambridge, just because it's also unique and long? That's not a point to bring up here, but something much more general across Wikipedia's university coverage. Also, there's no point in moving to a page it is likely have to move from later, which just puts this argument further along the line again. I don't know why this is a point of contention even, the suggested move is a sensible name for the article.
Shadowssettle(
talk)15:39, 7 January 2019 (UTC)reply
As far as I'm aware per
WP:PRECISE WP convention is that we do tend to use just the name even if a qualifier is often added in speech etc. It seems appropriate to have this one disambiguated (due to the Tarsadia one) but Department of Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic doesn't appear to need it. Its
website doesn't even include "University of Cambridge" in the title, not even as a qualifier. Many albums and films may be said to be unrecognizable without an "(Album)" or "(film)" qualifier but those that don't need it don't have it. The only exceptions I can think of are
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (UK Parliament constituencies),
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (U.S. state and territory highways) and
WP:UKPLACE. There doesn't appear to be such a guideline for university departments. Crouch, Swale (
talk)
18:51, 7 January 2019 (UTC)reply
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You haven't said what you think is wrong with the coordinates in the article, and they appear to be correct. If you still think that there is an error, you'll need to supply a clear explanation of what it is.
Deor (
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17:43, 18 December 2021 (UTC)reply