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The educational institutions in the Denver area constitute part of it's cultural and economic wealth and absolutely need to be included in a comprehensive and not just a passing way.
71.208.207.189 20:18, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Get to FA
I see that recently someone put "Main article: History of Denver." There is no main article for the history of Denver, but I would love to see one! Denver has a great old west history of crime and corruption. I know I would write a nice section on crime in the early days (1879-1896), where as friends of mine, and relatives of the Blonger name would surely be interested in writing about crime following my part, and well into the 1920's. Anyone who knows the general history wish to start? Soapy 00:49, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
The main article, "History of Denver" is up! There is a lot of missing history there guys...dig in! Soapy 22:14, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
The inset photo of James W. Denver says that he never visited the city named after him. This would be remarkable, since he lived until 1892. I have a reference (Robert L. Brown, 1985, "The Great Pikes Peak Gold Rush") that says that James W. Denver visited Denver, Colorado at least twice: 1875 and 1882. Anyone have information to the contrary? Plazak 03:29, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
I think that an important thing to add to the media section is the 3 main satellite/cable TV companies are here. Dish network (Echostar), Direct TV, and Comcast (AT&T / TCI). The main reason they're here is because they can see the entire North Western hemisphere of the Earth with there HPA's (High powered antenna) because of the altiduted. Echostar isn't found directly in Denver but if I remember right it's in Fort Collins. When I talk about I don't mean their HQ but a uplink facilities. What do you guys think? Eiceman 01:20, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Is it necessary to list every TV station, their owners, etc.? I note that there are 40 radio stations...will someone soon be listing them all? Let's get the yellow pages and start listing all the other businesses in Denver that serve the public. Why stop there? List all the current city government officials who serve the populace. Get out the White pages and let's list all the people who live in Denver, LOL. Where is the line drawn? Soapy 16:37, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree...I think that kind of information (if needed at all) belongs on a media of Denver page and not on the main one. Vertigo700 16:47, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
CORE Magazine is one of the largest publications representing the city and should be included in the media section. It appears that someone attempted to do this without first discussing it here and it was rebuffed as being promotional. Other than the Denver Post, it is the largest, local media outlet in the area. There is plenty of documentation to attest to this - it would be a shame to leave it off. amylopan Amylopan ( talk) 21:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
As long as we're on the subject, why is the Onion listed under Denver media? It is a New York publication with no local content except ad content. Plazak ( talk) 19:37, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
The page has been fairly obviously vandalised recently. I don't know anything about Denver, and I'd prefer to just leave it as it is rather then delete what's already there - someone that knows something might want to fix it.
Unless it actually is "gayer then west hollywood" - 124.177.200.217 05:40, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Argh. Okay, that doesn't seem to be there anymore. I or my ISP might have some sort of weird caching problem I'll have to check out. 124.177.200.217 05:42, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Who keeps removing the information about "The Fray" in the music section? It's true, and its something to "give" the article. I think it needs it. In my opinion, the part about "The Fray" is NOT VANDALISIM! Binglebongle2000 02:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
By the way, I've lived in Denver for eight years, and there is definatly more info to give to this article. Binglebongle2000 02:20, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I never said that I wrote that! I do, however know the person who does, and yes, it was called vandalism. ALso, if you remove the article about The Fray, you should should also remove the part about Boulder. Binglebongle2000 03:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
You see, seeing that The Fray is a very popular band and had 4 grammy nomitations, I think that it would add something to the article. And i have a strong feeling that many people (mostly Denver citizens, which you obviously are NOT) agree with me.
I was the one who deleted the information and said nothing about vandalism. The fact that The Fray is very popular is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with Denver and everything to do with the neighboring city of Thornton, as you originally stated in your article posting. If you look at the "neighborhood" discussions from a while back there was a problem with editors listing information about neighborhoods and cities near Denver but having really nothing to do with Denver, just like the blurb on Boulder that you mentioned does not belong. It all had to be trimmed back as it was getting out of control. What normally happens is that once too much information is added about a topic, like music in Denver another editor will create a new main article and transfer much of the information there so that the Denver article stays within boundaries and does not become overly large.
If there is some information that perhaps you did not include on The Frey that directly links to the city of Denver, besides having played there, then by all means add it. They are still listed in music in Denver.
You are very correct about the Boulder mention not belonging where it is. I agree it should be removed.
Finally, please refrain from personal attacks...yes, I have lived in Denver. My family has an interesting history in nineteenth century Denver and has been there since 1879. Soapy 16:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry about the personal attacks i am kinda new here. Not exactly sure what personal attacks are but will read up on it. If anyone has anything against me putting the info about The Fray in the Thornton article please let me know. But also, I think that one of the members of The Fray is a DEnver native, but the band was started in Thornton. If anyone is scepticle or has any more information to give me, let me know, I'm all ears (or should I say eyes) Thanks!
Binglebongle2000 18:19, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Just curious, who added the Infobox template? I don't know what's wrong with the current one? Trodaikid1983 19:41, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
It suggests that we need a county template, which I think is irrelevant since Denver is a consolidated city county. I will remove shortly. If there are objections than we can comment further on this talk page. Vertigo700 20:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Added the tail end of 2006 to the archives. Figured we might as well since it's already a good quarter into 2007. If anyone takes issue then please comment here and perhaps we can change all or part of it back. Vertigo700 20:21, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
DOn't you think that we should show the CURRENT sports team's names instead of the old ones. It would cut down the sports article and make it more up-to-date.Tell me what you think. Binglebongle2000 21:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Og, nevermind. just read about that. SHould we mention The Outlaws, Denver, OTHER lacrosse team? Binglebongle2000 21:46, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I created a colored/bordered map of the county svg file to match the look of the USA map in the infobox. Do people prefer the old style or the new? I could also generate colored ones for the remaining counties as well if that is more popular.
![]() Appearance before |
![]() Colored w/ Border |
-- MattWright ( talk) 18:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
It seems like most of these things have been covered, does anyone object to me deleting it? Trodaikid1983 04:37, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Do we really need to have the Colorado highlighted map in the infobox? I think most people know where the state is, and I am not sure of its use on a city page. Does this mean every city in Colorado should have a Colorado highlighted map? And mainly, I think it makes the infobox too long on awkward. Unless there is some overwhelming consensus in defense of the map, I think I will delete it shortly. Vertigo700 09:33, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force in an effort to ensure all listed Good articles continue to meet the Good article criteria. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed.
I will check back in no less than seven days. If progress is being made and issues are addressed, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted (such a decision may be challenged through WP:GA/R). If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAC. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you have any questions. Regards, Epbr123 11:58, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I added a few of the missing references and struck through the items above that I referenced. I also went through and cleaned up the references that were missing proper citation format, using {{ cite web}}. -- MattWright ( talk) 15:25, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I'll pass the article, once fair use rationales are added to the images. Epbr123 09:43, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I hadn't realised the two images were removed. Pass!. Epbr123 18:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
So somebody re-added the sister city list to the main page. Since we had discussed earlier on the need to not have lists on the Denver page, I am going to remove this (the Sister cities of Denver page remains in see also). Also, since we are on the topic of lists, I am also thinking of removing the list of higher education institutions from this page and adding a new page with the list to link to the education section of the main Denver page. Any thoughts? Vertigo700 06:19, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Hey all,
I just discovered the wonder that is Google Earth and want to encourage you all to start including GPS coordinates in any Denver/Colorado related articles you do. Periodically (about every month or so), Google looks up articles that have GPS coordinates and adds them to the Google Earth program so that users can click a little button and be whisked away to our articles if they want more information. It's a great way in my opinion to get some more readers to our lesser-seen articles.
To add GPS coordinates to an article simply put {{coord|39|44|25|N|104|58|55|W|display=title}} on any part of a page replacing the GPS coordinates with those of the place you are adding (N and W are the lattitude and longitude, which shouldn't change if you are just looking up stuff for Denver). To find those coordinates, simply download Google Earth and zoom to the location of the place and write down the numbers you see on the bottom left part of the screen which represent the longitude and lattitude of the place. The first number is the longitude north, and the second is the lattitude west. Just the first three numbers of each of those is fine for the purposes of adding GPS coordinates unless you need to get very, very specific. If we start adding now, we should get our articles listed all over the Denver Google Earth page, which is one of the most 3D imaged cities in the nation, due to Google's local offices in the city. Definitely great additions to the city map! Vertigo700 22:01, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I deleted the following sentences from the "Culture and contemporary life" section since they strike me as promotional:
The entire section was then blanked as "promotional" with this edit. I've reverted the blanking, but I'm interested in other opinions about both the sentences I deleted and rest of this section. -- Rick Block ( talk) 13:35, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
I've been asked why I removed the reference to the future home of the Clyfford Still museum. "Selected as the future home of" is a crystal ball sort of reference. I think adding this sort of statement is appropriate if the selection itself is notable (selected as the site of the 20xx Olympics, selected as the site of the 2008 Democratic National Convention), but in general until there's some tangible aspect of something ("is the site of the recently opened ... museum" or even "... museum is under construction") I don't think being selected as something warrants a reference. -- Rick Block ( talk) 18:15, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
[1] Vertigo700 04:30, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
A mass deletion is going on against List of foreign consulates in Denver, please go to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of foreign consulates in Oklahoma City and vote. Chris 05:55, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
![]() | This is an
archive of past discussions for the period 2007. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
The educational institutions in the Denver area constitute part of it's cultural and economic wealth and absolutely need to be included in a comprehensive and not just a passing way.
71.208.207.189 20:18, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Get to FA
I see that recently someone put "Main article: History of Denver." There is no main article for the history of Denver, but I would love to see one! Denver has a great old west history of crime and corruption. I know I would write a nice section on crime in the early days (1879-1896), where as friends of mine, and relatives of the Blonger name would surely be interested in writing about crime following my part, and well into the 1920's. Anyone who knows the general history wish to start? Soapy 00:49, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
The main article, "History of Denver" is up! There is a lot of missing history there guys...dig in! Soapy 22:14, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
The inset photo of James W. Denver says that he never visited the city named after him. This would be remarkable, since he lived until 1892. I have a reference (Robert L. Brown, 1985, "The Great Pikes Peak Gold Rush") that says that James W. Denver visited Denver, Colorado at least twice: 1875 and 1882. Anyone have information to the contrary? Plazak 03:29, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
I think that an important thing to add to the media section is the 3 main satellite/cable TV companies are here. Dish network (Echostar), Direct TV, and Comcast (AT&T / TCI). The main reason they're here is because they can see the entire North Western hemisphere of the Earth with there HPA's (High powered antenna) because of the altiduted. Echostar isn't found directly in Denver but if I remember right it's in Fort Collins. When I talk about I don't mean their HQ but a uplink facilities. What do you guys think? Eiceman 01:20, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Is it necessary to list every TV station, their owners, etc.? I note that there are 40 radio stations...will someone soon be listing them all? Let's get the yellow pages and start listing all the other businesses in Denver that serve the public. Why stop there? List all the current city government officials who serve the populace. Get out the White pages and let's list all the people who live in Denver, LOL. Where is the line drawn? Soapy 16:37, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree...I think that kind of information (if needed at all) belongs on a media of Denver page and not on the main one. Vertigo700 16:47, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
CORE Magazine is one of the largest publications representing the city and should be included in the media section. It appears that someone attempted to do this without first discussing it here and it was rebuffed as being promotional. Other than the Denver Post, it is the largest, local media outlet in the area. There is plenty of documentation to attest to this - it would be a shame to leave it off. amylopan Amylopan ( talk) 21:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
As long as we're on the subject, why is the Onion listed under Denver media? It is a New York publication with no local content except ad content. Plazak ( talk) 19:37, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
The page has been fairly obviously vandalised recently. I don't know anything about Denver, and I'd prefer to just leave it as it is rather then delete what's already there - someone that knows something might want to fix it.
Unless it actually is "gayer then west hollywood" - 124.177.200.217 05:40, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Argh. Okay, that doesn't seem to be there anymore. I or my ISP might have some sort of weird caching problem I'll have to check out. 124.177.200.217 05:42, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Who keeps removing the information about "The Fray" in the music section? It's true, and its something to "give" the article. I think it needs it. In my opinion, the part about "The Fray" is NOT VANDALISIM! Binglebongle2000 02:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
By the way, I've lived in Denver for eight years, and there is definatly more info to give to this article. Binglebongle2000 02:20, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I never said that I wrote that! I do, however know the person who does, and yes, it was called vandalism. ALso, if you remove the article about The Fray, you should should also remove the part about Boulder. Binglebongle2000 03:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
You see, seeing that The Fray is a very popular band and had 4 grammy nomitations, I think that it would add something to the article. And i have a strong feeling that many people (mostly Denver citizens, which you obviously are NOT) agree with me.
I was the one who deleted the information and said nothing about vandalism. The fact that The Fray is very popular is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with Denver and everything to do with the neighboring city of Thornton, as you originally stated in your article posting. If you look at the "neighborhood" discussions from a while back there was a problem with editors listing information about neighborhoods and cities near Denver but having really nothing to do with Denver, just like the blurb on Boulder that you mentioned does not belong. It all had to be trimmed back as it was getting out of control. What normally happens is that once too much information is added about a topic, like music in Denver another editor will create a new main article and transfer much of the information there so that the Denver article stays within boundaries and does not become overly large.
If there is some information that perhaps you did not include on The Frey that directly links to the city of Denver, besides having played there, then by all means add it. They are still listed in music in Denver.
You are very correct about the Boulder mention not belonging where it is. I agree it should be removed.
Finally, please refrain from personal attacks...yes, I have lived in Denver. My family has an interesting history in nineteenth century Denver and has been there since 1879. Soapy 16:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry about the personal attacks i am kinda new here. Not exactly sure what personal attacks are but will read up on it. If anyone has anything against me putting the info about The Fray in the Thornton article please let me know. But also, I think that one of the members of The Fray is a DEnver native, but the band was started in Thornton. If anyone is scepticle or has any more information to give me, let me know, I'm all ears (or should I say eyes) Thanks!
Binglebongle2000 18:19, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Just curious, who added the Infobox template? I don't know what's wrong with the current one? Trodaikid1983 19:41, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
It suggests that we need a county template, which I think is irrelevant since Denver is a consolidated city county. I will remove shortly. If there are objections than we can comment further on this talk page. Vertigo700 20:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Added the tail end of 2006 to the archives. Figured we might as well since it's already a good quarter into 2007. If anyone takes issue then please comment here and perhaps we can change all or part of it back. Vertigo700 20:21, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
DOn't you think that we should show the CURRENT sports team's names instead of the old ones. It would cut down the sports article and make it more up-to-date.Tell me what you think. Binglebongle2000 21:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Og, nevermind. just read about that. SHould we mention The Outlaws, Denver, OTHER lacrosse team? Binglebongle2000 21:46, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I created a colored/bordered map of the county svg file to match the look of the USA map in the infobox. Do people prefer the old style or the new? I could also generate colored ones for the remaining counties as well if that is more popular.
![]() Appearance before |
![]() Colored w/ Border |
-- MattWright ( talk) 18:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
It seems like most of these things have been covered, does anyone object to me deleting it? Trodaikid1983 04:37, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Do we really need to have the Colorado highlighted map in the infobox? I think most people know where the state is, and I am not sure of its use on a city page. Does this mean every city in Colorado should have a Colorado highlighted map? And mainly, I think it makes the infobox too long on awkward. Unless there is some overwhelming consensus in defense of the map, I think I will delete it shortly. Vertigo700 09:33, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force in an effort to ensure all listed Good articles continue to meet the Good article criteria. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed.
I will check back in no less than seven days. If progress is being made and issues are addressed, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted (such a decision may be challenged through WP:GA/R). If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAC. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you have any questions. Regards, Epbr123 11:58, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I added a few of the missing references and struck through the items above that I referenced. I also went through and cleaned up the references that were missing proper citation format, using {{ cite web}}. -- MattWright ( talk) 15:25, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I'll pass the article, once fair use rationales are added to the images. Epbr123 09:43, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I hadn't realised the two images were removed. Pass!. Epbr123 18:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
So somebody re-added the sister city list to the main page. Since we had discussed earlier on the need to not have lists on the Denver page, I am going to remove this (the Sister cities of Denver page remains in see also). Also, since we are on the topic of lists, I am also thinking of removing the list of higher education institutions from this page and adding a new page with the list to link to the education section of the main Denver page. Any thoughts? Vertigo700 06:19, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Hey all,
I just discovered the wonder that is Google Earth and want to encourage you all to start including GPS coordinates in any Denver/Colorado related articles you do. Periodically (about every month or so), Google looks up articles that have GPS coordinates and adds them to the Google Earth program so that users can click a little button and be whisked away to our articles if they want more information. It's a great way in my opinion to get some more readers to our lesser-seen articles.
To add GPS coordinates to an article simply put {{coord|39|44|25|N|104|58|55|W|display=title}} on any part of a page replacing the GPS coordinates with those of the place you are adding (N and W are the lattitude and longitude, which shouldn't change if you are just looking up stuff for Denver). To find those coordinates, simply download Google Earth and zoom to the location of the place and write down the numbers you see on the bottom left part of the screen which represent the longitude and lattitude of the place. The first number is the longitude north, and the second is the lattitude west. Just the first three numbers of each of those is fine for the purposes of adding GPS coordinates unless you need to get very, very specific. If we start adding now, we should get our articles listed all over the Denver Google Earth page, which is one of the most 3D imaged cities in the nation, due to Google's local offices in the city. Definitely great additions to the city map! Vertigo700 22:01, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I deleted the following sentences from the "Culture and contemporary life" section since they strike me as promotional:
The entire section was then blanked as "promotional" with this edit. I've reverted the blanking, but I'm interested in other opinions about both the sentences I deleted and rest of this section. -- Rick Block ( talk) 13:35, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
I've been asked why I removed the reference to the future home of the Clyfford Still museum. "Selected as the future home of" is a crystal ball sort of reference. I think adding this sort of statement is appropriate if the selection itself is notable (selected as the site of the 20xx Olympics, selected as the site of the 2008 Democratic National Convention), but in general until there's some tangible aspect of something ("is the site of the recently opened ... museum" or even "... museum is under construction") I don't think being selected as something warrants a reference. -- Rick Block ( talk) 18:15, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
[1] Vertigo700 04:30, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
A mass deletion is going on against List of foreign consulates in Denver, please go to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of foreign consulates in Oklahoma City and vote. Chris 05:55, 29 October 2007 (UTC)