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It seems that someone has marked this article with an "unreferred" tag. So, should we simply copy the literature section and the "scene explained" linklist from the demoscene article to every demoscene-related article, or is there a better alternative? -- Viznut 07:32, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Is it just me or "computer programming" feels a) not quite fitting and b) tedious to write all the time when i wanna link? How about "Demo (demoscene)", "Demo (artform)" or "Demo (realtime)"? (Ok, these arent much better, but...) // Gargaj 00:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
How about "Demo (presentation)"? (Just to reheat the discussion a bit) // Gargaj 15:25, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
What does the word 'nowadays' mean? This the kind of word that should be on a wikipedia usage watchlist, if not outright banned from usage, except in quotes. Words and phrases like "these days" or "today," referring to the present, "nowadays," and other temporally-dependent qualifications can reduce the dependability and relevance of wikipedia. They require not only disambiguation, but an ongoing maintenance effort to reduce their negative impact. Any word or colloquilism that cannot remain permanent or that changes over time should be subject to this kind of scrutiny.
Credibility is Wikipedia's largest liability. Let's try to turn it into it's largest asset.
I would like to see wikipedia remain credible, reliable, free and clean, surviving the credibility onslaught that is happening... nowadays. Jshoults 16:54, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Boo!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.33.244.196 ( talk) 11:35, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
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Started reading this article and immediately noticed some issues. The definition is maybe not so good. Not always multimedia in the fullest sense, and not always lacking elements of interactivity, and can often be featuring animations as well as realtime effects. But this is minor point. Platforms is needing some citations, particularly the 'PC/Window' as main platform, some citation to support demo scene on listed platforms. Also, last paragraph about respect of majority demosceners, I doubt there is citation existing for this.
History section talks about cracking. During 80s this was grey area as far as legality is concerned, for many countries, not until early 90s that Europe software companies organised with FAST etc. So, maybe need to modify the language to reflect the legal realities of the 80s world. Certainly, in some respects the demoscene (not demos themselves which I understand have much longer history) is starting with 8bits like the C64, and then develops into a more recognisable phase with the Amiga/ST. Also, some DOS cracktros/intros/demos are appearing. I think claim that piracy killed the Amiga (or any other platform) is contentious, so really needs a citation or nine to back it up, probably need to be expressed more balanced. Also, 'Authorities apply pressure' is a bit vague, maybe the author is meaning peoples like FAST. The last paragraph which is linking legal pressures on crackers with the invention of stand alone demos is demonstrably false. The first stand alone demos (real demos, not just intros or cracktros) are appearing in the later 80s, before much of the computer laws are being passed, and there is a long period of co-existence, even when some of larger demogroups start making commercial games they are still cracking (strange but true, maybe different people in the groups are doing the things).
Demo type section makes no mention of 40k demos, odd (maybe check aminet for examples). MegaDemo definition is maybe not so accurate. Don't like Trackmo definition, it was meaning always demos with custom track loaders running from disk. Has nothing really to do with the contents, but mostly content is following lines of a bigger demo or MegaDemo. Also, I think I see earlier examples than those given.
Maybe is needing some works on the grammar, expression. Is hard to read in parts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.207.146 ( talk) 10:11, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
The described use of demo seems to be specific to one subculture of computer programming. The word Demo is used much more generally by most people as simply “a (usually reduced) variant of a program that demonstrates the features and function of the program.” I inserted a link to the Demo disambiguation page that clarifies this. -- Krisrose ( talk) 18:55, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Why no PC demos in the platform specific section? I ask in relation to another proposed deletion, that of [ [1]]. Tiptoethrutheminefield ( talk) 16:31, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
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It seems that someone has marked this article with an "unreferred" tag. So, should we simply copy the literature section and the "scene explained" linklist from the demoscene article to every demoscene-related article, or is there a better alternative? -- Viznut 07:32, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Is it just me or "computer programming" feels a) not quite fitting and b) tedious to write all the time when i wanna link? How about "Demo (demoscene)", "Demo (artform)" or "Demo (realtime)"? (Ok, these arent much better, but...) // Gargaj 00:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
How about "Demo (presentation)"? (Just to reheat the discussion a bit) // Gargaj 15:25, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
What does the word 'nowadays' mean? This the kind of word that should be on a wikipedia usage watchlist, if not outright banned from usage, except in quotes. Words and phrases like "these days" or "today," referring to the present, "nowadays," and other temporally-dependent qualifications can reduce the dependability and relevance of wikipedia. They require not only disambiguation, but an ongoing maintenance effort to reduce their negative impact. Any word or colloquilism that cannot remain permanent or that changes over time should be subject to this kind of scrutiny.
Credibility is Wikipedia's largest liability. Let's try to turn it into it's largest asset.
I would like to see wikipedia remain credible, reliable, free and clean, surviving the credibility onslaught that is happening... nowadays. Jshoults 16:54, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Boo!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.33.244.196 ( talk) 11:35, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
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Started reading this article and immediately noticed some issues. The definition is maybe not so good. Not always multimedia in the fullest sense, and not always lacking elements of interactivity, and can often be featuring animations as well as realtime effects. But this is minor point. Platforms is needing some citations, particularly the 'PC/Window' as main platform, some citation to support demo scene on listed platforms. Also, last paragraph about respect of majority demosceners, I doubt there is citation existing for this.
History section talks about cracking. During 80s this was grey area as far as legality is concerned, for many countries, not until early 90s that Europe software companies organised with FAST etc. So, maybe need to modify the language to reflect the legal realities of the 80s world. Certainly, in some respects the demoscene (not demos themselves which I understand have much longer history) is starting with 8bits like the C64, and then develops into a more recognisable phase with the Amiga/ST. Also, some DOS cracktros/intros/demos are appearing. I think claim that piracy killed the Amiga (or any other platform) is contentious, so really needs a citation or nine to back it up, probably need to be expressed more balanced. Also, 'Authorities apply pressure' is a bit vague, maybe the author is meaning peoples like FAST. The last paragraph which is linking legal pressures on crackers with the invention of stand alone demos is demonstrably false. The first stand alone demos (real demos, not just intros or cracktros) are appearing in the later 80s, before much of the computer laws are being passed, and there is a long period of co-existence, even when some of larger demogroups start making commercial games they are still cracking (strange but true, maybe different people in the groups are doing the things).
Demo type section makes no mention of 40k demos, odd (maybe check aminet for examples). MegaDemo definition is maybe not so accurate. Don't like Trackmo definition, it was meaning always demos with custom track loaders running from disk. Has nothing really to do with the contents, but mostly content is following lines of a bigger demo or MegaDemo. Also, I think I see earlier examples than those given.
Maybe is needing some works on the grammar, expression. Is hard to read in parts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.207.146 ( talk) 10:11, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
The described use of demo seems to be specific to one subculture of computer programming. The word Demo is used much more generally by most people as simply “a (usually reduced) variant of a program that demonstrates the features and function of the program.” I inserted a link to the Demo disambiguation page that clarifies this. -- Krisrose ( talk) 18:55, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Why no PC demos in the platform specific section? I ask in relation to another proposed deletion, that of [ [1]]. Tiptoethrutheminefield ( talk) 16:31, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
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