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An internal link to Bomb disposal could probably be of use. -- Drdan 15:14, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
A redirect or, even better, a heading explaining the differences between humanitarian and other (military) demining in terms of accuracy, methods, and procedures would be very welcome. -- Drdan 15:20, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
This seems incorrect:
ORIGINAL
which are sensitive enough to pick up most mines but which also yield about one thousand false positives for every mine[Demining Research].
Should this INSTEAD say this
which are sensitive enough to pick up most mines but which also yield about one PER thousand false positives for every mine[Demining Research].
OR this
which are not very cool at all....peace man! The original seems incorrect. -- Multivac02 20:46, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
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Mechanical clearance Special machines effectively combine mine detection and removal into one operation. In the past, these machines were applied in both mine clearance and demining but are now generally only used for demining. They can be used to verify land that is not expected to be contaminated or as an extra layer of security after an area has cleared by another method, such as dogs.
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Actually, the US Army still uses and is continuing to develop mechanical clearance devices. So "now generally used only for demining" is incorrect. Specifically, mine roller systems are being developed, deployed and refined for military mine clearance.
For Reference see the Pearson Engineering web-site at www.pearson-eng.com
98.166.116.145 ( talk) 23:44, 22 September 2009 (UTC)Ford Cook
The pictures of protective cloathing and the robot are not for use in de-mining! They are both equipment for bomb disposal. I will remove the pictures. The recent addition of the remote controlled vehicle for detection should hardly be mentioned at all! It is a prototype that does not remove the threat (at least not according to the entry). At most it could be considered as a automated detection device under a separated heading between manual and biological detection measures. -- Drdan 15:18, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I moved the honey bees story to "methods under development". To see why, just follow the link to the story in Journal of Mine Action 7.3 which describes a successful test at the US army training site at Fort Leonard Wood. That's great, as far as it goes, but an encouraging result in development on a test-ground is not at all the same thing as being "in-use", which implies real-world operations on a day-to-day basis. Currently, only dogs and manual detection with MD's fit this description.-- Lewisaa 08:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
The section under "Landmine sense vehicle" seems poorly written and confusing. I cleaned up the paragraph a bit, but then there's this: "Now-a-days, in order to face new challenges, every system is automated as it requires less manual operations. So every field prefers automated control systems, especially giving tremendous importance to electronic systems for accurate control, as they are flexible, reliable and economical.
In the present scenario of war situations, unmanned systems plays very important role to minimize human losses. Increased usage of land mines as a devastating weapon to harm both defense personnel and civilians has caused concern in recent times."
I'm deleting that, because it seems out of place, unless someone knows what else to do with it. Frogs 02:41, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I like the photo of the Hydrema mine clearing vehicle - it looks effective. Unfortunately there is no written material about it here. I would be interested to see the percentage success rate for clearing mines, considering the other information for other methods. User:Fendy 02:51, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to see the "Landmine Sense Vehicle" section either heavily edited or entirely removed. It cites no references, offers opinion, and reads more like pre-product-launch advertisement fluff than an informative article.
A rate will not reach a goal; with out supplemental information. "$1 billion per year would be sufficient to completely demine globally" doesn't have any context
.....so would $1 per decade if, all new mines were banned, and given sufficient time like several millennia.
A rate can also reach a goal when compared a second rate, for instant "$1 billion per year would be sufficient to completely demine globally" if the new mines introduced to the system (planet earth) per year is less than a $1 billion (in removal costs)
I don't know an end date (or a started date) for the stated rate or a rate to compare it to. Else I would have fixed it. Larek ( talk) 18:51, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Hello, I want to ask, if this interwiki-Link is correct. I removed the Link, because the russian article links to Mine plow. So I think, the russian article does not deal with demining. Otherwise a Bot added this link immediately after I removed it -- Joschi90 ( talk) 21:43, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
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Add this to the plant section http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/009012.html "The Death of the Land Mine-Detecting Flower JULIA LEVITT, 11 NOV 08"
"Aresa Biodetection" is a wiki page that could be linked to this page.
ChloeDaddy ( talk) 03:04, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
Acording to the introduction half the info is missing. Where is all about the sweeping of naval Mines ?-- WerWil ( talk) 00:13, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I am removing several links, and listing others here as questionable.
Questionable:
Mine Advisory Group. It's a good group, but seems to be a special interest or lobbyist-type group.
Questionable:
APOPO. Seems to be SPAM.
Questionable:
European Union in Humanitarian Demining. Seems to be a university research project that ended in 2005.
I'm removing
Mineseeker Operations because it's SPAM.
I'm removing
Demining with hero rats because it's a dead link.
I'm removing
Manual Mine Clearance because it's a website similar to Flickr.
Overall, the article seems based on NGOs' websites instead of reliable sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lacarids ( talk • contribs) 23:47, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Perhaps Mine Kafon may be mentioned ? KVDP ( talk) 07:38, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
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It's very strange to see the mechanical clearance section placed in the humanitarian demining section. It talks almost exclusively about military vehicles used to remove mines and specifically says they don't meet the UN standard for humanitarian demining. It seems to set out like this exclusively because today this kind of military mine clearance isn't often done under fire anymore but I really don't think that's enough to call something a humanitarian effort. If something is being done by active service military forces, using military vehicles and isn't clearing mines to humanitarian standards it really should be considered a military effort even if the engineers are working in secured areas. Especially when you consider why devices like mine flails are/were used - because they are radically faster than humanitarian mine efforts which allows for acceptably safe paths to be cleared for military vehicles promptly, even if that leaves large numbers of mines undetonated. When put into that context; where military purposes are being put way above total mine clearence there's no way that this can be considered a humanitarian effort, even if the military contributes to such efforts at times. 109.153.3.240 ( talk) 08:27, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
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An internal link to Bomb disposal could probably be of use. -- Drdan 15:14, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
A redirect or, even better, a heading explaining the differences between humanitarian and other (military) demining in terms of accuracy, methods, and procedures would be very welcome. -- Drdan 15:20, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
This seems incorrect:
ORIGINAL
which are sensitive enough to pick up most mines but which also yield about one thousand false positives for every mine[Demining Research].
Should this INSTEAD say this
which are sensitive enough to pick up most mines but which also yield about one PER thousand false positives for every mine[Demining Research].
OR this
which are not very cool at all....peace man! The original seems incorrect. -- Multivac02 20:46, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
ORIGINAL
Mechanical clearance Special machines effectively combine mine detection and removal into one operation. In the past, these machines were applied in both mine clearance and demining but are now generally only used for demining. They can be used to verify land that is not expected to be contaminated or as an extra layer of security after an area has cleared by another method, such as dogs.
ISSUE
Actually, the US Army still uses and is continuing to develop mechanical clearance devices. So "now generally used only for demining" is incorrect. Specifically, mine roller systems are being developed, deployed and refined for military mine clearance.
For Reference see the Pearson Engineering web-site at www.pearson-eng.com
98.166.116.145 ( talk) 23:44, 22 September 2009 (UTC)Ford Cook
The pictures of protective cloathing and the robot are not for use in de-mining! They are both equipment for bomb disposal. I will remove the pictures. The recent addition of the remote controlled vehicle for detection should hardly be mentioned at all! It is a prototype that does not remove the threat (at least not according to the entry). At most it could be considered as a automated detection device under a separated heading between manual and biological detection measures. -- Drdan 15:18, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I moved the honey bees story to "methods under development". To see why, just follow the link to the story in Journal of Mine Action 7.3 which describes a successful test at the US army training site at Fort Leonard Wood. That's great, as far as it goes, but an encouraging result in development on a test-ground is not at all the same thing as being "in-use", which implies real-world operations on a day-to-day basis. Currently, only dogs and manual detection with MD's fit this description.-- Lewisaa 08:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
The section under "Landmine sense vehicle" seems poorly written and confusing. I cleaned up the paragraph a bit, but then there's this: "Now-a-days, in order to face new challenges, every system is automated as it requires less manual operations. So every field prefers automated control systems, especially giving tremendous importance to electronic systems for accurate control, as they are flexible, reliable and economical.
In the present scenario of war situations, unmanned systems plays very important role to minimize human losses. Increased usage of land mines as a devastating weapon to harm both defense personnel and civilians has caused concern in recent times."
I'm deleting that, because it seems out of place, unless someone knows what else to do with it. Frogs 02:41, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I like the photo of the Hydrema mine clearing vehicle - it looks effective. Unfortunately there is no written material about it here. I would be interested to see the percentage success rate for clearing mines, considering the other information for other methods. User:Fendy 02:51, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to see the "Landmine Sense Vehicle" section either heavily edited or entirely removed. It cites no references, offers opinion, and reads more like pre-product-launch advertisement fluff than an informative article.
A rate will not reach a goal; with out supplemental information. "$1 billion per year would be sufficient to completely demine globally" doesn't have any context
.....so would $1 per decade if, all new mines were banned, and given sufficient time like several millennia.
A rate can also reach a goal when compared a second rate, for instant "$1 billion per year would be sufficient to completely demine globally" if the new mines introduced to the system (planet earth) per year is less than a $1 billion (in removal costs)
I don't know an end date (or a started date) for the stated rate or a rate to compare it to. Else I would have fixed it. Larek ( talk) 18:51, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Hello, I want to ask, if this interwiki-Link is correct. I removed the Link, because the russian article links to Mine plow. So I think, the russian article does not deal with demining. Otherwise a Bot added this link immediately after I removed it -- Joschi90 ( talk) 21:43, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
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[31] is a dead link, see http://acfnewsource.org.s60463.gridserver.com/index.html
Add this to the plant section http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/009012.html "The Death of the Land Mine-Detecting Flower JULIA LEVITT, 11 NOV 08"
"Aresa Biodetection" is a wiki page that could be linked to this page.
ChloeDaddy ( talk) 03:04, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
Acording to the introduction half the info is missing. Where is all about the sweeping of naval Mines ?-- WerWil ( talk) 00:13, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I am removing several links, and listing others here as questionable.
Questionable:
Mine Advisory Group. It's a good group, but seems to be a special interest or lobbyist-type group.
Questionable:
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Questionable:
European Union in Humanitarian Demining. Seems to be a university research project that ended in 2005.
I'm removing
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I'm removing
Demining with hero rats because it's a dead link.
I'm removing
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Overall, the article seems based on NGOs' websites instead of reliable sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lacarids ( talk • contribs) 23:47, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Perhaps Mine Kafon may be mentioned ? KVDP ( talk) 07:38, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
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It's very strange to see the mechanical clearance section placed in the humanitarian demining section. It talks almost exclusively about military vehicles used to remove mines and specifically says they don't meet the UN standard for humanitarian demining. It seems to set out like this exclusively because today this kind of military mine clearance isn't often done under fire anymore but I really don't think that's enough to call something a humanitarian effort. If something is being done by active service military forces, using military vehicles and isn't clearing mines to humanitarian standards it really should be considered a military effort even if the engineers are working in secured areas. Especially when you consider why devices like mine flails are/were used - because they are radically faster than humanitarian mine efforts which allows for acceptably safe paths to be cleared for military vehicles promptly, even if that leaves large numbers of mines undetonated. When put into that context; where military purposes are being put way above total mine clearence there's no way that this can be considered a humanitarian effort, even if the military contributes to such efforts at times. 109.153.3.240 ( talk) 08:27, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
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1. Well-written: | ||
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1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. | Well-written, easy to understand, avoids jargon. There were a couple of minor typos which I corrected myself. |
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1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. | Lead section effectively summarizes the article, especially the first few sentences. If I was going to be especially picky, I'd suggest adding something about the cost of demining to the third paragraph of the lead, in the sense of economic, time, and cost in lives, since those costs seem to be important aspects but are left out of the lead.
No issues with layout, the article is well organized. No words to watch issues, fiction, or list incorporation. |
2. Verifiable with no original research: | ||
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2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. | Article is well referenced. When performing spot checks of some of the referenced material, I found some of the citations less helpful, such as #66, which cites Kasban et al., 2010, pp. 89-112, which was the entire 24-page article, so it made that information difficult to verify. Did not find any instances of close paraphrasing from the sources I checked. |
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2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). | References are from reliable sources. |
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2c. it contains no original research. | No OR |
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2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. | No copyright violations |
3. Broad in its coverage: | ||
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3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. | Article is very comprehensive and did not leave me wondering about additional topics |
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3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). | Article is concise. |
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4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. | Article is neutral |
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5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. | I should have checked the article history before starting this to notice that is is still being actively developed, but the article is considered stable because it is not changing due to an edit war or content dispute, all changes are being made by one editor. |
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio: | ||
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6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. | All images are tagged with copyright status, no non-free content. |
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6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. | Images are relevant and help illustrate the topic |
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7. Overall assessment. | Well-written article |