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Aha! Good to have an expert here on the subject. I didn't know of the distinction. Do the Delta Ibo languages feature the special "swallowed" syllable represented by the "g" in "Igbo" as well? Badagnani 23:51, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Swallowed syllable indeed :) -- no it doesn't. It's quite funny to observe that although the languages are related, there are lots of differences. The Igbos for example don't like it spelt Ibo. Azuka 23:54, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Azuka, where were you when the Jan.1966 coup led by Major Kaduna Nzeogwu from present day Delta state was described as an Igbo coup? Perhaps if present day revisionists like you had come out then to announce to other Nigerians that Major Kaduna Nzeogwu was not Igbo, the Igbo would probably have been spared the tragedy which led to the civil-war, and their subsequent fall from grace from the lofty heights, influence and domineering positions they had occupied in Nigeria prior to the coup and civil-war. It is important to note here that even in the thick of the crisis that came with the coup, the Igbo never for once denied Major Kaduna Nzeogwu. They stuck with the reality of his undeniable Igbo origins, faced the odds, fought the war and the rest is history. It is a shame that in spite of these sacred truths, and in spite of the legacy of Chief Dennis Osadebay, a frontline Igbo nationalist from present day Delta state, and founder of the then " Igbo state union" people like you can come to the public space to peddle falsehoods, and seek to create divisions amongst native Igbo speakers whose destiny to be Igbo was ordained by God. What have you done to alleviate the sufferings of our teeming masses who merely exist, outside seeking to cause mischief and sow the seeds of hatred and dis-harmony? I have a hunch you a neither Igbo nor from Delta state, you are probably a Nigerian from other tribes undertaking a hatchet job to sow the seeds of division among the Igbo, there are many like you in Nigeria, but i can assure you, you will fail. Lawrence 22 May
Mr Okuleye, this your statement is exactly what "identity crisis" means. If you speak an Igbo dialect not through forceful conquest, or through colonialism but as an original mother tongue yet you claim you are not Igbo, then what are you? Perhaps you are from another planet? I am really sorry for you guys who will end up being neither here nor there.Lawrence 23 May
Before i begin let me observe that the name Okuleye is a clear cut Yoruba undisputable name, and i am convinced you are Yoruba undertaking a hatchet job. Now kindly go back to your History books, the people in Anioma was formerly refered to as Western Igbo, later Midwest Igbo, later Bendel Igbo, and now Delta Igbo.At that time in the 1st republic when they were being refered to as Western Igbo, nobody from that area denied it. The Northerners had elites among them who knew the difference between the Igbo and others.Even before and during the war they sought actively to cause divisions between the Igbo and the Eastern minorities which partially suceeded. Most officers from the Anioma area fought on the Biafran side as a measure of Igbo solidarity, even though the Midwest was not officially part of Biafra.
When the riots and lynchings initially started in the North all Southerners including the Yoruba was targetted, Obasanjo himself in his book explained how he narrowly escaped death. The original intention of the North was to seccede, but when they were persuaded by the British to change their mind they narrowed the lynchings down to the Igbo.If The North could not distinguish between the Igbo and others why was Midwest region not part of Biafra, and why were there massacres in Asaba and other Anioma areas and none in the Edo and Urhobo areas? My brother stop peddling cheap falsehoods. The Igbo Origin of Major Nzeogwu was well known to the Northern military officers,politicians and elites in the press, who tagged the coup an Igbo coup.
Besides all Major Nzeogwu or the present day revisionists from Anioma area needed to do in 1966,was to hold a public press conference and declare they are not Igbo, but neither Major Nzeogwu nor anybody from his area did that, and the Igbos East of the Niger never for once denied Major Nzeogwu. If Major Nzeogwu had been a Yoruba man for example, without any doubt the East would have immediately issued a press release detailing the Yoruba origin of Nzeogwu, and Nzeogwu's Yoruba community would have also acted in that regard. The fact that neither Nzeogwu, his Anioma community, nor the East disclaimed his Igbo identity at that time in spite of the glaring consequences must have been because they beleived he was Igbo, so cut the crap. Lawrence 23 May
My dear Badagdani, i am sorry, but if you are familiar with Igbo history, you would realise that unlike the Yoruba, Hausa, or the Soninke that you refered to, the Igbo had no empire. Since the Igbo never had any empires, it was impossible for them to take over any group and force them to speak their language as the Romans, Hausa, soninke etc did. What this means is that all native Igbo speakers East and West of the Niger are very original, perhaps the only truely original amongst the 3 major Nigerian ethnic groups. The Hausa and Yoruba were known to have had kingdoms which engaged in conquests and in the process forced some of their conquered subjects into speaking their language and religion. This underscores the point why the Igbo must have extreme solidarity in love and brotherhood to fight against poverty and for their emancipation. Finally Ibo and Igbo refers to the same ethnic group,just the same way as Holland and Netherlands, or England and Britain refers to the same nation. Kindly ignore the mischievous Azuka who i suspect is undertaking a hatchet job. Lawrence 22 may.
Badagdani, from my brief research, i can see the ethnic identity of the said group was politicised just the same way as Mr Okunleye and some other hatchet merchants are trying to politicise the Igbo identity in post-war Nigeria.
This article starts off by talking about a language and then suddenly veers into talking about the Ibo people. I think the article should start off talking about the people, and let the language be a section of the article to avoid confusing the two topics. If there are no objections, I can come back and do that. Rjhatl ( talk) 19:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
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Aha! Good to have an expert here on the subject. I didn't know of the distinction. Do the Delta Ibo languages feature the special "swallowed" syllable represented by the "g" in "Igbo" as well? Badagnani 23:51, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Swallowed syllable indeed :) -- no it doesn't. It's quite funny to observe that although the languages are related, there are lots of differences. The Igbos for example don't like it spelt Ibo. Azuka 23:54, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Azuka, where were you when the Jan.1966 coup led by Major Kaduna Nzeogwu from present day Delta state was described as an Igbo coup? Perhaps if present day revisionists like you had come out then to announce to other Nigerians that Major Kaduna Nzeogwu was not Igbo, the Igbo would probably have been spared the tragedy which led to the civil-war, and their subsequent fall from grace from the lofty heights, influence and domineering positions they had occupied in Nigeria prior to the coup and civil-war. It is important to note here that even in the thick of the crisis that came with the coup, the Igbo never for once denied Major Kaduna Nzeogwu. They stuck with the reality of his undeniable Igbo origins, faced the odds, fought the war and the rest is history. It is a shame that in spite of these sacred truths, and in spite of the legacy of Chief Dennis Osadebay, a frontline Igbo nationalist from present day Delta state, and founder of the then " Igbo state union" people like you can come to the public space to peddle falsehoods, and seek to create divisions amongst native Igbo speakers whose destiny to be Igbo was ordained by God. What have you done to alleviate the sufferings of our teeming masses who merely exist, outside seeking to cause mischief and sow the seeds of hatred and dis-harmony? I have a hunch you a neither Igbo nor from Delta state, you are probably a Nigerian from other tribes undertaking a hatchet job to sow the seeds of division among the Igbo, there are many like you in Nigeria, but i can assure you, you will fail. Lawrence 22 May
Mr Okuleye, this your statement is exactly what "identity crisis" means. If you speak an Igbo dialect not through forceful conquest, or through colonialism but as an original mother tongue yet you claim you are not Igbo, then what are you? Perhaps you are from another planet? I am really sorry for you guys who will end up being neither here nor there.Lawrence 23 May
Before i begin let me observe that the name Okuleye is a clear cut Yoruba undisputable name, and i am convinced you are Yoruba undertaking a hatchet job. Now kindly go back to your History books, the people in Anioma was formerly refered to as Western Igbo, later Midwest Igbo, later Bendel Igbo, and now Delta Igbo.At that time in the 1st republic when they were being refered to as Western Igbo, nobody from that area denied it. The Northerners had elites among them who knew the difference between the Igbo and others.Even before and during the war they sought actively to cause divisions between the Igbo and the Eastern minorities which partially suceeded. Most officers from the Anioma area fought on the Biafran side as a measure of Igbo solidarity, even though the Midwest was not officially part of Biafra.
When the riots and lynchings initially started in the North all Southerners including the Yoruba was targetted, Obasanjo himself in his book explained how he narrowly escaped death. The original intention of the North was to seccede, but when they were persuaded by the British to change their mind they narrowed the lynchings down to the Igbo.If The North could not distinguish between the Igbo and others why was Midwest region not part of Biafra, and why were there massacres in Asaba and other Anioma areas and none in the Edo and Urhobo areas? My brother stop peddling cheap falsehoods. The Igbo Origin of Major Nzeogwu was well known to the Northern military officers,politicians and elites in the press, who tagged the coup an Igbo coup.
Besides all Major Nzeogwu or the present day revisionists from Anioma area needed to do in 1966,was to hold a public press conference and declare they are not Igbo, but neither Major Nzeogwu nor anybody from his area did that, and the Igbos East of the Niger never for once denied Major Nzeogwu. If Major Nzeogwu had been a Yoruba man for example, without any doubt the East would have immediately issued a press release detailing the Yoruba origin of Nzeogwu, and Nzeogwu's Yoruba community would have also acted in that regard. The fact that neither Nzeogwu, his Anioma community, nor the East disclaimed his Igbo identity at that time in spite of the glaring consequences must have been because they beleived he was Igbo, so cut the crap. Lawrence 23 May
My dear Badagdani, i am sorry, but if you are familiar with Igbo history, you would realise that unlike the Yoruba, Hausa, or the Soninke that you refered to, the Igbo had no empire. Since the Igbo never had any empires, it was impossible for them to take over any group and force them to speak their language as the Romans, Hausa, soninke etc did. What this means is that all native Igbo speakers East and West of the Niger are very original, perhaps the only truely original amongst the 3 major Nigerian ethnic groups. The Hausa and Yoruba were known to have had kingdoms which engaged in conquests and in the process forced some of their conquered subjects into speaking their language and religion. This underscores the point why the Igbo must have extreme solidarity in love and brotherhood to fight against poverty and for their emancipation. Finally Ibo and Igbo refers to the same ethnic group,just the same way as Holland and Netherlands, or England and Britain refers to the same nation. Kindly ignore the mischievous Azuka who i suspect is undertaking a hatchet job. Lawrence 22 may.
Badagdani, from my brief research, i can see the ethnic identity of the said group was politicised just the same way as Mr Okunleye and some other hatchet merchants are trying to politicise the Igbo identity in post-war Nigeria.
This article starts off by talking about a language and then suddenly veers into talking about the Ibo people. I think the article should start off talking about the people, and let the language be a section of the article to avoid confusing the two topics. If there are no objections, I can come back and do that. Rjhatl ( talk) 19:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
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Ukwanis & Ikas are not part of Anioma; Anioma is Aniocha & Oshimilli! This force marriage is not going to work; time & time; the Ikas & Ukwani made it clear they are not part of the politically motivated greed to create a state! 38.99.82.47 ( talk) 14:18, 21 July 2024 (UTC)