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I am going to edit the article according to these points. Иван Москалев ( talk) 16:01, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
The long-standing preparation by the initiator of the Delphic movement made the implementation of Delphic Games of the Modern Era possible. It was the idea of the initiators (International Delphic Council founded 1994 in Berlin) to revive the Delphic Games of the Modern Era. Due to disloyal behaviour the National Russian Delphic Council founded their own “International Delphic Committee 2003 in Moscow” as counter organisation. The International Delphic Council is known worldwide.
A patronage of Delphic games says still nothing about the organization. Statements are drawn up favourably for everyone. It is remarkable that all Games organized by the IDC Moscow has been and are still all hosted by former CIS countries. In the previous post improvable, deceptive conclusions are floated and make arrogant demands.
It is right that the IDC-Berlin acts as an engine of the Delphic movement and sets parameters how the Delphic Games of the Modern Era have to be realized.
Therefore, the article reinstated with corrections. Delphico ( talk) 07:25, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I think about WikiPedia and Wiki-Rules too so. Delphico ( talk) 08:02, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Info about delphic ritual, to my mind, is not needed here. The article is about Delphic Games in general. As two world-level organizations conduct it, and have different ways of doing it, any additional info about the proces itself (any rituals, ceremonies etc) is better to be placed in the articles about the organizations themselves - not in the main article. Ivan Moskalev ( talk) 09:57, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
I have some questions regarding the organization by Musica Magna International, which is, stated in the article, the progenitor of the Games. I searched Musica Magna International on Google and found nothing except the Wikipedia articles about Delphic Games of the modern era. This information vacuum looks strange. It raises questions about how correct it is, in this situation, to rely on published sources unavailable and non-verifiable without any quotes from them. At my request on ruwiki to provide quotes from sources, DarDar didn't do it. As a result, there is quite a mysterious organization, with its history impossible to check. The feeling is, that someone tries to make Wikipedia the first-hand source for this information - and, in addition, this unverifiable info persistently circulates in the various language sections of Wiki! This is, in fact, falsification. Some journalists can copy this MMI information from the Wiki and publish it without actual fact-checking - and from that moment it will become, like, credible - not being it originally. I would also like to ask a question: is there a Wikipedia policy defining what should be done in case of Wikipedia being used for such purposes? Ivan Moskalev ( talk) 11:17, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Hans-Georg Torkel. Idee und Geschichte der Delphischen Bewegung. «Innovations Forum», 2/03, Seite 23 Zitate: Mit der Gründung des Internationalen Delphischen Rates (IDC) im Schloss Schöhausen hat sich Christian Kirsch einen Lebenstraum erfüllt..... Als Finanz- und Wirtschaftsberater zahlreicher Regierungsinstitutionen und Privatpersonen gründet er im Jahr 1987 die Musica Magna International (MMI) — ein Netzwerk internationaler Kulturkontakte. Später wird die MMI als "Verein zur Wiedereinführung von Delphischen Spielen" registriert.
Franz Anton. Ein Jahr der Delphischen Spiele. «Sachsen-Spiegel», 1. März 1991, Seite 12. Zitate: Kirsch wurde also Präsident der «Musica Magna International», einem Verein, der die Öffentlichkeitsarbeit trägt..... In diesem Jahr will er das «Internationale Delphische Komitee» gründen, das im Zusammenwirken mit den Nationalen Komitees die Spiele für 1998 in Griechenland vorbereitet.
Günter Görtz. Belebung der Antike? «Neues Deutschland», 27. Februar 1996. Zitat: Der Internationale Delphische Rat wurde im Dezember 1994 in Berlin im Schloß Niederschönhausen gegründet.
-- DarDar ( talk) 17:39, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
The sponsorship of these games has been the subject of editorial disputes on this, the German and the Russian Wikipedias. For the record, I have compiled a list of links to previous discussions at
Talk:International Delphic Council#Article deletion controversies here and elsewhere (permanent
link).
--
A. B. (
talk •
contribs)
14:46, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Recently, single purpose accounts have been adding excessive detail specific to the International Delphic Council to this article, and point-of-view pushing material to this page. Detailed information about the International Delphic Council belongs on that page not here. Excessive detail and trivia about that or any other organization belongs in that organization's web page, not in this or any encyclopedia article. And opinions, have ever well-intentioned, should never be stated as fact within WP article pages--if the point of view of individuals or groups is essential to the understanding of the subject, then such points of view should be labeled as such, presently neutrally, and able to be sourced (and if challenged, then sourced or removed).
If in doubt, or if such material is added but then removed by another editor, please discuss on this talk page and gain consensus before adding back. Thanks -- Hobbes Goodyear ( talk) 11:41, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Editors with a conflict of interest should not edit this page directly. Instead, such edits should be proposed at this talk page, and the COI editor should disclose their connection with the topic. -- Hobbes Goodyear ( talk) 23:14, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
I am currently editing this page – I am a part of the organizing committee for the 2016 Youth Delphic Games to be help in Goa, India. However, I am not being paid to edit the page. Although there is a conflict of interest, I have and will continue to read up on and familiarize myself with the rules and regulations of editing Wikipedia pages. From what I have read, COI edits are not entirely prohibited, so long as they follow a neutral point of view, are not promotional, etc. As a first time Wikipedia editor, I was not aware of all of these issues and have been slowly learning the dos and don’ts.
I am currently in the process of editing the text for the Wikipedia page to make it as wiki-appropriate as possible. Another problem that had come up with my edits was the lack of or incorrectly written edit summaries. So, I will list out in detail the changes, edits and additions here –
Will be awaiting any feedback. Thank you - Missaskhole
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I am going to edit the article according to these points. Иван Москалев ( talk) 16:01, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
The long-standing preparation by the initiator of the Delphic movement made the implementation of Delphic Games of the Modern Era possible. It was the idea of the initiators (International Delphic Council founded 1994 in Berlin) to revive the Delphic Games of the Modern Era. Due to disloyal behaviour the National Russian Delphic Council founded their own “International Delphic Committee 2003 in Moscow” as counter organisation. The International Delphic Council is known worldwide.
A patronage of Delphic games says still nothing about the organization. Statements are drawn up favourably for everyone. It is remarkable that all Games organized by the IDC Moscow has been and are still all hosted by former CIS countries. In the previous post improvable, deceptive conclusions are floated and make arrogant demands.
It is right that the IDC-Berlin acts as an engine of the Delphic movement and sets parameters how the Delphic Games of the Modern Era have to be realized.
Therefore, the article reinstated with corrections. Delphico ( talk) 07:25, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I think about WikiPedia and Wiki-Rules too so. Delphico ( talk) 08:02, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Info about delphic ritual, to my mind, is not needed here. The article is about Delphic Games in general. As two world-level organizations conduct it, and have different ways of doing it, any additional info about the proces itself (any rituals, ceremonies etc) is better to be placed in the articles about the organizations themselves - not in the main article. Ivan Moskalev ( talk) 09:57, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
I have some questions regarding the organization by Musica Magna International, which is, stated in the article, the progenitor of the Games. I searched Musica Magna International on Google and found nothing except the Wikipedia articles about Delphic Games of the modern era. This information vacuum looks strange. It raises questions about how correct it is, in this situation, to rely on published sources unavailable and non-verifiable without any quotes from them. At my request on ruwiki to provide quotes from sources, DarDar didn't do it. As a result, there is quite a mysterious organization, with its history impossible to check. The feeling is, that someone tries to make Wikipedia the first-hand source for this information - and, in addition, this unverifiable info persistently circulates in the various language sections of Wiki! This is, in fact, falsification. Some journalists can copy this MMI information from the Wiki and publish it without actual fact-checking - and from that moment it will become, like, credible - not being it originally. I would also like to ask a question: is there a Wikipedia policy defining what should be done in case of Wikipedia being used for such purposes? Ivan Moskalev ( talk) 11:17, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Hans-Georg Torkel. Idee und Geschichte der Delphischen Bewegung. «Innovations Forum», 2/03, Seite 23 Zitate: Mit der Gründung des Internationalen Delphischen Rates (IDC) im Schloss Schöhausen hat sich Christian Kirsch einen Lebenstraum erfüllt..... Als Finanz- und Wirtschaftsberater zahlreicher Regierungsinstitutionen und Privatpersonen gründet er im Jahr 1987 die Musica Magna International (MMI) — ein Netzwerk internationaler Kulturkontakte. Später wird die MMI als "Verein zur Wiedereinführung von Delphischen Spielen" registriert.
Franz Anton. Ein Jahr der Delphischen Spiele. «Sachsen-Spiegel», 1. März 1991, Seite 12. Zitate: Kirsch wurde also Präsident der «Musica Magna International», einem Verein, der die Öffentlichkeitsarbeit trägt..... In diesem Jahr will er das «Internationale Delphische Komitee» gründen, das im Zusammenwirken mit den Nationalen Komitees die Spiele für 1998 in Griechenland vorbereitet.
Günter Görtz. Belebung der Antike? «Neues Deutschland», 27. Februar 1996. Zitat: Der Internationale Delphische Rat wurde im Dezember 1994 in Berlin im Schloß Niederschönhausen gegründet.
-- DarDar ( talk) 17:39, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
The sponsorship of these games has been the subject of editorial disputes on this, the German and the Russian Wikipedias. For the record, I have compiled a list of links to previous discussions at
Talk:International Delphic Council#Article deletion controversies here and elsewhere (permanent
link).
--
A. B. (
talk •
contribs)
14:46, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Recently, single purpose accounts have been adding excessive detail specific to the International Delphic Council to this article, and point-of-view pushing material to this page. Detailed information about the International Delphic Council belongs on that page not here. Excessive detail and trivia about that or any other organization belongs in that organization's web page, not in this or any encyclopedia article. And opinions, have ever well-intentioned, should never be stated as fact within WP article pages--if the point of view of individuals or groups is essential to the understanding of the subject, then such points of view should be labeled as such, presently neutrally, and able to be sourced (and if challenged, then sourced or removed).
If in doubt, or if such material is added but then removed by another editor, please discuss on this talk page and gain consensus before adding back. Thanks -- Hobbes Goodyear ( talk) 11:41, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Editors with a conflict of interest should not edit this page directly. Instead, such edits should be proposed at this talk page, and the COI editor should disclose their connection with the topic. -- Hobbes Goodyear ( talk) 23:14, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
I am currently editing this page – I am a part of the organizing committee for the 2016 Youth Delphic Games to be help in Goa, India. However, I am not being paid to edit the page. Although there is a conflict of interest, I have and will continue to read up on and familiarize myself with the rules and regulations of editing Wikipedia pages. From what I have read, COI edits are not entirely prohibited, so long as they follow a neutral point of view, are not promotional, etc. As a first time Wikipedia editor, I was not aware of all of these issues and have been slowly learning the dos and don’ts.
I am currently in the process of editing the text for the Wikipedia page to make it as wiki-appropriate as possible. Another problem that had come up with my edits was the lack of or incorrectly written edit summaries. So, I will list out in detail the changes, edits and additions here –
Will be awaiting any feedback. Thank you - Missaskhole
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