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..in the beginning of SWP III, see p. V. These are the frescoes which had been scraped off by 1882. Huldra ( talk) 21:34, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Féderlin (publ. 1903) has seen and documented the area around 1900, before modern agriculture did away with many remains, and did a tremendous job at it, but the 1890s-1900 are very long ago, much has been learnt since.
Sion (publ. 1996) has done a thorough survey for the IAA in 1993, he has gathered all the info available from older (C19) and newer work (Schneider 1938, Baramki 1949-1951, Augustinovic 1951, Chitty 1966, Bar-Adon 1972, Hirschfeld 1990-92 who surveyed cells in the surroundings of the monastery of Deir Hajla, Patrich-Arubas-Agur 1993), and I thought he's the last word in this field of research. He's not always easy to follow, one needs A LOT of patience, but in the end it makes sense.
Sion makes a clear distinction between the cluster of hermit cells he calls "the laura of Gerasimus" (usually with lower-case L), and "the core of the Laura of Gerasimus" or "the [ancient, original] monastery of Gerasimus", which "included a church, a kitchen, a refectory, storage areas and a dwelling wing." The confusion grows because he doesn't use different terms for the modern (1885) Monastery of St. Gerasimus and the ancient one, founded by Gerasimus. Also, on p. 262, he apparently makes a mistake (?), by writing "The lack of Byzantine finds in the area of the modern monastery of ‘Ein Hajla and around it (M) makes it difficult to accept the assumption that the monastery of Gerasimus was located there." But there is no such thing! (M) is always the modern monastery of Deir Hajla, distinct from 'Ein Hajla (spring), where one has the Byzantine monastery of Calamon (K) and NO modern monastery, not even the ruins seen by Wilson, NOTHING over ground, just the cistern is left. So this can be put to bed as a clear mistyping mistake, but it adds a bit to the confusion.
Then comes the La Sapienza team from Rome, who's running a large project from Jericho. One publication, and a website with sites from Jericho area. Both only have 1 additional source vs. Sion (1996): Adel Yahia (Ramallah 2007, a guidebook). They jump from old views to new, and re. the WEBSITE I can't figure out if they just copied & pasted ALL bits of info from all the old (19th c.) authors w/o critical lecture and coordination among authors? ALL surveyors, w/o exception (I only don't know what Yahia did, if anything other than read older stuff) couldn't find anything Byzantine at Deir Hajla, but the website is listing under Byzantine, as well as Crusader periods, THE EXACT SAME elements: monastery, chapel, cells, cave "St. Gerasimus' tomb (?)". Almost copy-and-paste between 2 distinct periods, Crus. period only gets "mosaics" additionally. NOT very confidence inspiring, probably a student's work. The published work, Archaeological Heritage in the Jericho Oasis. A systematic catalogue... is better, but Signora Maura Sala doesn't seem to have understood Sion when she's quoting him. Examples: "Laura of Gerasimus (Sion's site M)" - no, he rejects categorically site M as the Laura of Gerasimus for total lack of Byzantine remains, also rejects Féderlin's suggestion, a site 350 m E of site M (Deir Hajla), as no more than a larger cell, and suggests tentatively site L, with the need of excavations (none of them had been) before anything further can be said.
But now I looked at Pringle, who published the Churches in 1993, but based, if I remember well, on field visits from the 80s and written materials that appear to stop at Augustinovic in 1951. (He actually has a note about the main icon now moved to Jerusalem, as per his own 1982 (!) research). He obviously didn't know about Sion's and the Sapienza team's work and conclusions, so his book looks out of date. He starts by mixing up the names: "Dair Mar Hanna Hajla" can only be Sala 's "Deir Mar Yuhanna Hajla" and Wilson's "Monastery of St. John, Hajla" (Hanna / Yuhanna is John in Arabic; think of the original Hebrew, Yohanan). Then he also calls it "Kasr Hajla", a name mentioned indeed by Sion as referring to Deir Hajla, but by Sala in connection to ruins of a fort next to 'Ein Hajla. Then his foundation year, given by Sion as precisely 455, is in the third quarter of the fifth century, 20-55 years later. Then he calls it Kalamon (for Sala that's Deir Mar Yuhanna Hajla at the spring to the NE, and for Sion it's also at the spring). Go figure. But he keeps on quoting old authors discussed and dismissed based on modern survey results by Sion, so... I'll try to wrap it up as good as I can. Arminden ( talk) 03:38, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
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..in the beginning of SWP III, see p. V. These are the frescoes which had been scraped off by 1882. Huldra ( talk) 21:34, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Féderlin (publ. 1903) has seen and documented the area around 1900, before modern agriculture did away with many remains, and did a tremendous job at it, but the 1890s-1900 are very long ago, much has been learnt since.
Sion (publ. 1996) has done a thorough survey for the IAA in 1993, he has gathered all the info available from older (C19) and newer work (Schneider 1938, Baramki 1949-1951, Augustinovic 1951, Chitty 1966, Bar-Adon 1972, Hirschfeld 1990-92 who surveyed cells in the surroundings of the monastery of Deir Hajla, Patrich-Arubas-Agur 1993), and I thought he's the last word in this field of research. He's not always easy to follow, one needs A LOT of patience, but in the end it makes sense.
Sion makes a clear distinction between the cluster of hermit cells he calls "the laura of Gerasimus" (usually with lower-case L), and "the core of the Laura of Gerasimus" or "the [ancient, original] monastery of Gerasimus", which "included a church, a kitchen, a refectory, storage areas and a dwelling wing." The confusion grows because he doesn't use different terms for the modern (1885) Monastery of St. Gerasimus and the ancient one, founded by Gerasimus. Also, on p. 262, he apparently makes a mistake (?), by writing "The lack of Byzantine finds in the area of the modern monastery of ‘Ein Hajla and around it (M) makes it difficult to accept the assumption that the monastery of Gerasimus was located there." But there is no such thing! (M) is always the modern monastery of Deir Hajla, distinct from 'Ein Hajla (spring), where one has the Byzantine monastery of Calamon (K) and NO modern monastery, not even the ruins seen by Wilson, NOTHING over ground, just the cistern is left. So this can be put to bed as a clear mistyping mistake, but it adds a bit to the confusion.
Then comes the La Sapienza team from Rome, who's running a large project from Jericho. One publication, and a website with sites from Jericho area. Both only have 1 additional source vs. Sion (1996): Adel Yahia (Ramallah 2007, a guidebook). They jump from old views to new, and re. the WEBSITE I can't figure out if they just copied & pasted ALL bits of info from all the old (19th c.) authors w/o critical lecture and coordination among authors? ALL surveyors, w/o exception (I only don't know what Yahia did, if anything other than read older stuff) couldn't find anything Byzantine at Deir Hajla, but the website is listing under Byzantine, as well as Crusader periods, THE EXACT SAME elements: monastery, chapel, cells, cave "St. Gerasimus' tomb (?)". Almost copy-and-paste between 2 distinct periods, Crus. period only gets "mosaics" additionally. NOT very confidence inspiring, probably a student's work. The published work, Archaeological Heritage in the Jericho Oasis. A systematic catalogue... is better, but Signora Maura Sala doesn't seem to have understood Sion when she's quoting him. Examples: "Laura of Gerasimus (Sion's site M)" - no, he rejects categorically site M as the Laura of Gerasimus for total lack of Byzantine remains, also rejects Féderlin's suggestion, a site 350 m E of site M (Deir Hajla), as no more than a larger cell, and suggests tentatively site L, with the need of excavations (none of them had been) before anything further can be said.
But now I looked at Pringle, who published the Churches in 1993, but based, if I remember well, on field visits from the 80s and written materials that appear to stop at Augustinovic in 1951. (He actually has a note about the main icon now moved to Jerusalem, as per his own 1982 (!) research). He obviously didn't know about Sion's and the Sapienza team's work and conclusions, so his book looks out of date. He starts by mixing up the names: "Dair Mar Hanna Hajla" can only be Sala 's "Deir Mar Yuhanna Hajla" and Wilson's "Monastery of St. John, Hajla" (Hanna / Yuhanna is John in Arabic; think of the original Hebrew, Yohanan). Then he also calls it "Kasr Hajla", a name mentioned indeed by Sion as referring to Deir Hajla, but by Sala in connection to ruins of a fort next to 'Ein Hajla. Then his foundation year, given by Sion as precisely 455, is in the third quarter of the fifth century, 20-55 years later. Then he calls it Kalamon (for Sala that's Deir Mar Yuhanna Hajla at the spring to the NE, and for Sion it's also at the spring). Go figure. But he keeps on quoting old authors discussed and dismissed based on modern survey results by Sion, so... I'll try to wrap it up as good as I can. Arminden ( talk) 03:38, 7 October 2020 (UTC)