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I sense a large amount of non-NPOV here... I think this article needs to be drastically reworked. I'll start by moving a chunk of the text that seems unnecessary to the /talk page, but I think people more experienced than I should try their hand at this article... -- KA
moved block: Defense in the modern world goes beyond 'Oogh',our caveman, and his club beating down tigers. Today defense is a multibillion dollar exploration into the latest, greatest technologies. Defense today, for many Americans, means a fighter jet buzzing overhead, or raining down bombs on 'evilones' oversees. Defense means a gun on the nightstand, a can of mace in the purse, a Club--the popular lock for steering wheels--on their car, a five-sided building with men in pressed pants, decorated with metals, standing over maps, and saving our country from those who wish us harm. Defense has become a 200-plus billion dollar budget allocation to the Armed Forces alone in the United States, not to mention Homeland Security; the FBI, the CIA, the NSC, and the thousands of police departments from New York City, New York, to Proctorville, Ohio.
Defense, though in many senses, has reamined the same; we all need to protect ourselves and those that we value--ou r family, our friends,our neighbors,the citizens of our country-- from the adversity of our enviroment, and the dangerous that surround us. Though defense may have started with Ugh fighting :off a tiger --though it likely did not--, the business of defense can no longer be seen as a solo operation: Any real defense is a common defense
I'd like to make this more useful as a disambiguation page. So how about adding links to pages at Defense (sport), Defense (legal), Defense (politics) and Defense (military)? Is this a good idea? Are these the best titles? -- sannse 07:43 May 3, 2003 (UTC)
True or false: defense is the American spelling and defence is the Canadian spelling. 66.32.248.34 19:42, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Under defense as a politial euphemism for war, somebody had placed "(See United States Department of Defense)" or somesuch. It may have been unintentional, but this would doubtless convey the implication (to some readers) that initiating war is the true purpose of the USDoD.
This is a view worthy of discussion, perhaps, but explicitly and not by implication. -- NathanHawking 01:48, 2004 Oct 6 (UTC)
Should the redirection not be the other way around? i.e to from defense to defence?
Whilst I understand that defense is a valid ALTERNATE spelling, alternate it is nonetheless. Whilst there may be British/American/Australian English, is English English not the original? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.221.212.66 ( talk • contribs • WHOIS)
I agree. This is the English wikipedia, not the American wikipedia. -- Oddeivind ( talk) 18:02, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Hate to reopen this but the US is the only English speaking country that spells it defense. Population that spells it as "defense": US (300 million). Population that spells it as "defence": Australia (21 million), Canada (31 million), UK (60 million), New Zealand (5 million) Ireland (4 million) and INDIA (1000 Million). Sorry - but defence it is! 58.178.57.17 ( talk) 03:32, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
I should point out that as defence is the worldwide spelling of the word then that should be used, since the entire world uses said spelling. Defense refers solely to the US, and is therefore unrepresentative of the rest of the world. Under Wikipedia [sic] guidelines the spelling should be reverted back to defence.-- J.StuartClarke ( talk) 17:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Why is Cimetidine listed on this page? J04n( talk page) 23:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm American, and I was always taught to spell defence, defence. I recognized that the spelling was used in "department of defense", but thought that was some kind of archaic something or other. So is the American spelling truly American? Furthermore, I wonder how this "defense" spelling came about. From what I've read about spelling reform (the same spelling reform that made "colour" into "color", it seems like it would be more logical to spell it defence. Anyone know? 188.74.96.196 ( talk) 16:12, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Describe crosshairs on g angles Eglassis 2604:2D80:B689:6600:7D19:E036:F285:946A ( talk) 07:06, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
Kristie Reed 2604:2D80:B689:6600:7D19:E036:F285:946A ( talk) 07:06, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
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I sense a large amount of non-NPOV here... I think this article needs to be drastically reworked. I'll start by moving a chunk of the text that seems unnecessary to the /talk page, but I think people more experienced than I should try their hand at this article... -- KA
moved block: Defense in the modern world goes beyond 'Oogh',our caveman, and his club beating down tigers. Today defense is a multibillion dollar exploration into the latest, greatest technologies. Defense today, for many Americans, means a fighter jet buzzing overhead, or raining down bombs on 'evilones' oversees. Defense means a gun on the nightstand, a can of mace in the purse, a Club--the popular lock for steering wheels--on their car, a five-sided building with men in pressed pants, decorated with metals, standing over maps, and saving our country from those who wish us harm. Defense has become a 200-plus billion dollar budget allocation to the Armed Forces alone in the United States, not to mention Homeland Security; the FBI, the CIA, the NSC, and the thousands of police departments from New York City, New York, to Proctorville, Ohio.
Defense, though in many senses, has reamined the same; we all need to protect ourselves and those that we value--ou r family, our friends,our neighbors,the citizens of our country-- from the adversity of our enviroment, and the dangerous that surround us. Though defense may have started with Ugh fighting :off a tiger --though it likely did not--, the business of defense can no longer be seen as a solo operation: Any real defense is a common defense
I'd like to make this more useful as a disambiguation page. So how about adding links to pages at Defense (sport), Defense (legal), Defense (politics) and Defense (military)? Is this a good idea? Are these the best titles? -- sannse 07:43 May 3, 2003 (UTC)
True or false: defense is the American spelling and defence is the Canadian spelling. 66.32.248.34 19:42, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Under defense as a politial euphemism for war, somebody had placed "(See United States Department of Defense)" or somesuch. It may have been unintentional, but this would doubtless convey the implication (to some readers) that initiating war is the true purpose of the USDoD.
This is a view worthy of discussion, perhaps, but explicitly and not by implication. -- NathanHawking 01:48, 2004 Oct 6 (UTC)
Should the redirection not be the other way around? i.e to from defense to defence?
Whilst I understand that defense is a valid ALTERNATE spelling, alternate it is nonetheless. Whilst there may be British/American/Australian English, is English English not the original? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.221.212.66 ( talk • contribs • WHOIS)
I agree. This is the English wikipedia, not the American wikipedia. -- Oddeivind ( talk) 18:02, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Hate to reopen this but the US is the only English speaking country that spells it defense. Population that spells it as "defense": US (300 million). Population that spells it as "defence": Australia (21 million), Canada (31 million), UK (60 million), New Zealand (5 million) Ireland (4 million) and INDIA (1000 Million). Sorry - but defence it is! 58.178.57.17 ( talk) 03:32, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
I should point out that as defence is the worldwide spelling of the word then that should be used, since the entire world uses said spelling. Defense refers solely to the US, and is therefore unrepresentative of the rest of the world. Under Wikipedia [sic] guidelines the spelling should be reverted back to defence.-- J.StuartClarke ( talk) 17:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Why is Cimetidine listed on this page? J04n( talk page) 23:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm American, and I was always taught to spell defence, defence. I recognized that the spelling was used in "department of defense", but thought that was some kind of archaic something or other. So is the American spelling truly American? Furthermore, I wonder how this "defense" spelling came about. From what I've read about spelling reform (the same spelling reform that made "colour" into "color", it seems like it would be more logical to spell it defence. Anyone know? 188.74.96.196 ( talk) 16:12, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Describe crosshairs on g angles Eglassis 2604:2D80:B689:6600:7D19:E036:F285:946A ( talk) 07:06, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
Kristie Reed 2604:2D80:B689:6600:7D19:E036:F285:946A ( talk) 07:06, 30 January 2023 (UTC)