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His source clearly says (after translating) that he was beaten to death. This is further specified as punches and kicks. At first SunnyDoo wanted to say "blunt force trauma", which is both needlessly vague and not in the source. Now the cause is gone altogether, despite it being right there in the citation beside him. Every bit of synthesis here could equally be applied to Daniel Fletcher, who we note instead as a simple fall. What's good for Fletcher (following the source) is good for Ibáñez and everyone. Or no? InedibleHulk (talk) 05:19, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi. Hover over a redlink. Why does it say "Seite nicht vorhanden" and not "page does not exist" on English Wikipedia servers?? Care to explain, or to fix? 86.113.56.177 ( talk) 05:44, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
She was more known for the Oscar nominated "How Green Was My Valley" than either "The Quiet Man" or "The Parent Trap". Most obituaries I have read today mention Valley in the first paragraph. For example: [1] and [2]. I would propose replacing "Quiet Man" with "How Green..." in her entry. BurienBomber ( talk) 17:52, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
I've already readded How Green. I really don't wish to conduct in another discussion about what movies to add into someones filmography. There's more pressing matters to attend to. Rusted AutoParts 18:06, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
Arnold Klein → Michael Jackson. While Klein gave Jackson medical and business advice, I don't think linking Jackson here for notability attachment is fair. The circumstances surrounding Jackson's death pretty much ruined Klein's career, despite his name being cleared. WP is not a tabloid to list doctors to the stars. If so, we should list those attached to Jake Bailey.
Even this bothers me: Abdollah Baqeri Niyaraki, Iranian military commander and bodyguard ( Mahmoud Ahmadinejad). (death announced on this date) — Wylie pedia 18:36, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
I changed the manner and cause of death in the entry for Zenita Nicholson (37, Guyanese human rights and LGBT activist (Society Against Sexual Orientation Discrimination)) from "suicide by carbon overdose" to "poisoning." The article cited here says she consumed "carbon tablets" which are used as rat poison. This story on "carbon tablets" says that they are actually aluminum phosphide, a chemical which breaks down to form toxic phosphine gas (PH3, not phosgene, POCl2). I changed the entry to read simply "poisoning" because we have no way of knowing what the agent actually was.
Also, the CND article on her death says "suspicious circumstances" and mentions that police may suspect foul play. So, homicide is not ruled out and the death should not be called a suicide unless a medical examiner's report establishes that. Roches ( talk) 06:28, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
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His source clearly says (after translating) that he was beaten to death. This is further specified as punches and kicks. At first SunnyDoo wanted to say "blunt force trauma", which is both needlessly vague and not in the source. Now the cause is gone altogether, despite it being right there in the citation beside him. Every bit of synthesis here could equally be applied to Daniel Fletcher, who we note instead as a simple fall. What's good for Fletcher (following the source) is good for Ibáñez and everyone. Or no? InedibleHulk (talk) 05:19, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi. Hover over a redlink. Why does it say "Seite nicht vorhanden" and not "page does not exist" on English Wikipedia servers?? Care to explain, or to fix? 86.113.56.177 ( talk) 05:44, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
She was more known for the Oscar nominated "How Green Was My Valley" than either "The Quiet Man" or "The Parent Trap". Most obituaries I have read today mention Valley in the first paragraph. For example: [1] and [2]. I would propose replacing "Quiet Man" with "How Green..." in her entry. BurienBomber ( talk) 17:52, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
I've already readded How Green. I really don't wish to conduct in another discussion about what movies to add into someones filmography. There's more pressing matters to attend to. Rusted AutoParts 18:06, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
Arnold Klein → Michael Jackson. While Klein gave Jackson medical and business advice, I don't think linking Jackson here for notability attachment is fair. The circumstances surrounding Jackson's death pretty much ruined Klein's career, despite his name being cleared. WP is not a tabloid to list doctors to the stars. If so, we should list those attached to Jake Bailey.
Even this bothers me: Abdollah Baqeri Niyaraki, Iranian military commander and bodyguard ( Mahmoud Ahmadinejad). (death announced on this date) — Wylie pedia 18:36, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
I changed the manner and cause of death in the entry for Zenita Nicholson (37, Guyanese human rights and LGBT activist (Society Against Sexual Orientation Discrimination)) from "suicide by carbon overdose" to "poisoning." The article cited here says she consumed "carbon tablets" which are used as rat poison. This story on "carbon tablets" says that they are actually aluminum phosphide, a chemical which breaks down to form toxic phosphine gas (PH3, not phosgene, POCl2). I changed the entry to read simply "poisoning" because we have no way of knowing what the agent actually was.
Also, the CND article on her death says "suspicious circumstances" and mentions that police may suspect foul play. So, homicide is not ruled out and the death should not be called a suicide unless a medical examiner's report establishes that. Roches ( talk) 06:28, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
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