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could someone give a source for larry browns alledged death?
thanks, i used google instead of using google news there seems to be only one article, from nytimes though
I heard that Jeff Hardy, the WWE wrestler died of a heroine od. Is this true?
Bernie Little died April 26th. He's not listed here. Here's an article about this giant in the world of American Motorsports: http://www.formulaoneprop.com/news/030426.htm
"Recent" is ever-changing term. In a few months, these will not be recent. You should consider moving the contents to their respective months. -- Jzcool
Of course once these are no longer recent deaths, these tidbits of information should be moved to the respective month pages. In the meantime, this is one of our most popular pages, and also just adding information here serves as a cue for people who know something about the people to add to their pages.
I would define "recent" based on the size of the page, I think. I think that this page will be unweildy once it gets to twice the size it is now, and so I'd say that a death is recent so long as it is within the last two years or so.
Again, this is one of our most popular pages, we should not delete it. -- Jimbo Wales
Is Kid Rock really dead - I can't find any reference to it? Verloren
What is the convention for death dates: do you take the date at the place where they died or do you take server time, or do you take UTC? AxelBoldt
According to dictionary.com:
General Galtieri appears on this page, which bothers me. Do murderous fascist dictators really count as "celebrities"? Could we perhaps change the title of the page to simply "Recent deaths"? -- GrahamN 23:18 Jan 12, 2003 (UTC)
On " Uzi submachine gun" Uzi Gal is named Uziel Gal, which one is the correct one? -- JeLuF
This may be pedantry, but ... shouldn't this page be at List of recent celebrity deaths? — Toby 01:58 Nov 3, 2002 (UTC)
Anyone think we should move all of the 2002 deaths to the 2002 article? -- Zoe
I've just had a go at starting to format this page differently (I'll do the whole page later if there are no protests). I'm sure the bullet points are better, but not so sure about the way I've done the year/month headers (possibly each heading should have month and year given rather than how it is now). I'm also not sure if it would be better to put a hyphen twixt date and name, as on the individual year pages. Comments welcomed. -- Camembert
Maria Felix is listed there under two different dates. We need to correct that.
If you mean by "date entry" the [month YEAR] pages then I agree. But 2001, 2002 would become ridiculously huge if all these entries were transfered there. That is why the [Month YEAR] pages are a good place to archive this stuff. -- mav
October | 2 | 2 |
November | 6 | 5 |
December | 3 | 3 |
January | 10 | 4 |
February | 9 | 3 |
March | 6 | 3 |
April | 13 | 11 |
It seems half the entries have a period (.) at the end, and the other half don't. Which should it be? -- stewacide 14:16 22 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Now what do all the important recent deaths on Main Page have in common? (Although to be fair, I've heard of Barry White) jimfbleak 16:51 8 Jul 2003 (UTC)
I still see no evidence of resonable policy being adopted for getting deaths put forward on the main page. Perhaps the most recent (say 20) entries from this page should be put up there, or perhaps a week's worth - at the current rate of progress this would not be too burdensome. It's interesting to see people whom I've never heard of featured - but then I really do think that Eugene Istomin should feature, and also Denis Quilley. Am I too biased? David Martland 13:23, 16 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Moved from page:
There's no article and no reference, so it's unclear on the state of the body and hence when Mr. McPherson died; if he died in 1989 (as seems plausible), then there shouldn't be an entry here, but in some month in 1989, with a caveat saying "remains discovered in July 2003" or somesuch. James F. 04:42 24 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Foday Sankoh died on Tuesday, and there's no article about him. If someone would like to develop one, here are some links:
Here is an article about Sierra Leone's politics. webkid 10:45, 30 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Would it not make sense to give the ages of those who died? For example, Diana Mosley and Bishop Donal Lamont died largely because of age (Lamont was in his 90s) whereas Kieran Kelly was 25. I've said in the article that Kelly died as a result of a horseriding accident, but the shock of his death was all the more poignant because at only 25 Kelly was widely seen in the horseracing world as an up and coming jockey generally regarded as having a bright future. That is fundamentally different to say an older jockey at the end of his career being killed. Whereas most people'e reaction to Kelly's death was shock and regret, Lamont's and Mosley's deaths would have been drawn responses largely of "I didn't know they were still alive" or "they had a good innings". FearÉIREANN
So what if Spot the dog has an article, he's a dog and doesn't belong in this list. Mintguy (T) 12:22, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)
(Just being Devil's Advocate here) What if a famous horse like Seabiscuit or Secretariat died. Or Dolly the sheep? Some animals are newsworthy and/or famous. I'm not sure Spot Fetcher is worth mention on Recent Deaths, but some animals would be. SeanO 13:21, Mar 6, 2004 (UTC)
Where does it say that the list should only cover humans? If an animal is relevant enough to have its own article, it may as well have its death listed here. -- Wik 13:23, Mar 6, 2004 (UTC)
Yea keep the animals, how else would I have known Keiko had died? User:SimonMayer 13:37, 6 March 2004. (UTC)
Where do we list Spalding Gray? He's a recent death, but no one knows when between January 10 and March 6 he died. Any thoughts? Jwrosenzweig 21:00, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Also: do we know the date that Abu Abbas died, or do we merely know the date his death was announced? I think it's the latter. - Nunh-huh 21:52, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Its prudent to have an external link beside a recent death listing, this is because Google doesn't pick up most recent pages from the web. Providing ext. links will be all the more helpful if
It may or may not make sense to add the link in the external links section of the bio page as most obituary pages are not more than 1 paragraph long. Also ext. links on bio pages are more based on the life and profile of the person rather than a death notice.
I noticed User:Minesweeper removing all the external links from here. This is in response to that. Jay 03:15, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I noticed a lot of 18-20 year old American college sports players listed in June. While I don't mean to diminish the loss their loved ones suffered, I don't believe that they're really notable enough to be listed here. Jxg 18:21, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Notable or not, it doesn't hurt for them to be there. -- Marcus2
They're covered in media and youth sports are often broadcast on national television, so they are definitely notable. An external link would be helpful, however. Zerbey 17:28, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Even if they weren't that notable (not that the sports players aren't), it wouldn't hurt if they're mentioned in recent deaths. -- Marcus2
If they are not notable, they shouldn't be on articles such as this. If they are notable, they should have articles and be listed. Qzm ( talk) 19:10, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Johnny Ramone seems to have denied that he is dead as recently as two hours ago [1], so perhaps we should wait for a source before adding this:
Should we be including cause of death in the listing (it's becoming more popular, and I always do), or should we leave it for the article? What do other Wikipedians think?
It should be added when it is known, regardless of the cause. Qzm ( talk) 19:10, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
I heard a rumor that Ron White passed away from a heart attack. Can't find anything online. Any truth to this?
No it doesn't, so I've removed the reference to the appropriate template. An "event" is something that happens. A single death is an event. A list of recent deaths has no beginning and no end; it doesn't "happen". (You don't see a similar message on Recent changes, or even Current events come to that.) -- Avaragado 22:05, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
From http://www.livedaily.com/news/7012.html?t=98
Singer Laura Branigan (news), best known for her 1982 hit "Gloria," died of a brain aneurysm at her New York home on Thursday (8/26). She was 47. karahd 12:02, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)
I've added the name of a Dutch police officer to the list of recent deaths. I can understand why many people think he doesn't belong on this list, so I would like to explain why I included him. During the chase of a suspected drug dealer in Enschede (the Netherlands), two police officers were shot. One died of his wounds, the other is in critical condition at this moment. In the Netherlands, violence against police officers is relatively rare. Both in the 1980's and in the 1990's, 2 Dutch police officers were killed on duty. In the 1970's, 6 Dutch police officers were killed on duty. Because fatal violence against police officers is so rare for the Netherlands, I think the deceased police officer deserves to be on the list of Recent deaths. Aecis 10:01, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
There were three copies of the body of Recent deaths on that page a moment ago. I deleted all but the top one (reasoning that people look at the top one first to make updates). I did not, however, make a careful comparison between the various revisions as I did not have time. -- ke4roh 14:04, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)
I really don't see why the first 6 months were removed completely. Maybe moved to a seperate page and linked, but not totally removed. The first 6 months has information that is not available anywhere else in WIkipedia and should be kept if for nothing else for search purposes. Williamb 06:32, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Hi. I want to apologize about the recent posting I made, on October 30, about the death of a BBC actor. It just happened that I had stopped by the BBC website and saw his death notice, then I looked here and didnt see his name on the list , when he in fact, was there, so I added him...again!
I dont know much about the BBC or other topics, such as , say, TVyNotas for example. So Im sorry to make someone else go through the double work of reverting. User:Marine 69-71
Do we realy need the oldest Panda (13 August)? It could be offensive. -- Nk 15:43, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Yesterday it was 6th December. Now it's 7th December, but the date shown on his own page is 8th December. What is the true date of death? 203.37.77.9 22:39, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Is that worth mentioning? Somewhere? -- AllyUnion (talk) 07:56, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I was amazed to hear(on Geoff Bennett's afternoon program on ABC Classic FM, yesterday Saturday 18th December), about the recent death of Elena Souliotis.
This was news to Wikipedia, so I assumed it had only just happened (yesterday perhaps). Imagine my surprise when I learned she died two weeks ago, on 4th December, in Florence. The earliest obituary I found was not published till nine days after her death (The Scotsman, 13/12).
But that still leaves about five days, in which time thousands of opera-loving Wikipedians (and thus millions and perhaps billions of other people world-wide) were denied information about this wonderful singer.
Between them, historians, obituary collectors, and just plain ghouls like me, regularly trawl through all imaginable on-line sources of information. That information is often immediately re-published on other websites, such as Wikipedia. Wikipedia and similar sites are, by definition, always behind the times because they are at the mercy, so to speak, of their contributors. But apart from that, word spreads very quickly through the OFC (Obituary-focussed Community). So, how come everybody in Wikipedia, including me, totally missed this very sad departure? Or, if they were aware of it at some time between 13th and 18th December, why did nobody think this was worth putting on Wikipedia?
I am truly, deeply mystifed and profoundly troubled. I get like that sometimes. Cheers JackofOz 00:17, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I NPOV'd this entry. I agree it should be kept since this is one the biggest human tragedies of all time (see also Deaths in 2001 which had the 9/11 victims listed). What do other Wikipedians think, is it appropriate to list? Zerbey 21:36, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
The article has him listed as dead as of June 28, yet the referring article states that the U.S. Army lists his death as totally inconclusive and lists him still as a POW. I listed a note referring that his death was in dispute, but it was removed. What is the procedure in this case?-- Mitsukai 05:51, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
Why is this a seperate page to the 2004 page, when earlier years have deaths in a section of the main year page? Not that I have a particular problem with it, except that it doesnt appear to be consistent. 80.177.152.156
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could someone give a source for larry browns alledged death?
thanks, i used google instead of using google news there seems to be only one article, from nytimes though
I heard that Jeff Hardy, the WWE wrestler died of a heroine od. Is this true?
Bernie Little died April 26th. He's not listed here. Here's an article about this giant in the world of American Motorsports: http://www.formulaoneprop.com/news/030426.htm
"Recent" is ever-changing term. In a few months, these will not be recent. You should consider moving the contents to their respective months. -- Jzcool
Of course once these are no longer recent deaths, these tidbits of information should be moved to the respective month pages. In the meantime, this is one of our most popular pages, and also just adding information here serves as a cue for people who know something about the people to add to their pages.
I would define "recent" based on the size of the page, I think. I think that this page will be unweildy once it gets to twice the size it is now, and so I'd say that a death is recent so long as it is within the last two years or so.
Again, this is one of our most popular pages, we should not delete it. -- Jimbo Wales
Is Kid Rock really dead - I can't find any reference to it? Verloren
What is the convention for death dates: do you take the date at the place where they died or do you take server time, or do you take UTC? AxelBoldt
According to dictionary.com:
General Galtieri appears on this page, which bothers me. Do murderous fascist dictators really count as "celebrities"? Could we perhaps change the title of the page to simply "Recent deaths"? -- GrahamN 23:18 Jan 12, 2003 (UTC)
On " Uzi submachine gun" Uzi Gal is named Uziel Gal, which one is the correct one? -- JeLuF
This may be pedantry, but ... shouldn't this page be at List of recent celebrity deaths? — Toby 01:58 Nov 3, 2002 (UTC)
Anyone think we should move all of the 2002 deaths to the 2002 article? -- Zoe
I've just had a go at starting to format this page differently (I'll do the whole page later if there are no protests). I'm sure the bullet points are better, but not so sure about the way I've done the year/month headers (possibly each heading should have month and year given rather than how it is now). I'm also not sure if it would be better to put a hyphen twixt date and name, as on the individual year pages. Comments welcomed. -- Camembert
Maria Felix is listed there under two different dates. We need to correct that.
If you mean by "date entry" the [month YEAR] pages then I agree. But 2001, 2002 would become ridiculously huge if all these entries were transfered there. That is why the [Month YEAR] pages are a good place to archive this stuff. -- mav
October | 2 | 2 |
November | 6 | 5 |
December | 3 | 3 |
January | 10 | 4 |
February | 9 | 3 |
March | 6 | 3 |
April | 13 | 11 |
It seems half the entries have a period (.) at the end, and the other half don't. Which should it be? -- stewacide 14:16 22 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Now what do all the important recent deaths on Main Page have in common? (Although to be fair, I've heard of Barry White) jimfbleak 16:51 8 Jul 2003 (UTC)
I still see no evidence of resonable policy being adopted for getting deaths put forward on the main page. Perhaps the most recent (say 20) entries from this page should be put up there, or perhaps a week's worth - at the current rate of progress this would not be too burdensome. It's interesting to see people whom I've never heard of featured - but then I really do think that Eugene Istomin should feature, and also Denis Quilley. Am I too biased? David Martland 13:23, 16 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Moved from page:
There's no article and no reference, so it's unclear on the state of the body and hence when Mr. McPherson died; if he died in 1989 (as seems plausible), then there shouldn't be an entry here, but in some month in 1989, with a caveat saying "remains discovered in July 2003" or somesuch. James F. 04:42 24 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Foday Sankoh died on Tuesday, and there's no article about him. If someone would like to develop one, here are some links:
Here is an article about Sierra Leone's politics. webkid 10:45, 30 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Would it not make sense to give the ages of those who died? For example, Diana Mosley and Bishop Donal Lamont died largely because of age (Lamont was in his 90s) whereas Kieran Kelly was 25. I've said in the article that Kelly died as a result of a horseriding accident, but the shock of his death was all the more poignant because at only 25 Kelly was widely seen in the horseracing world as an up and coming jockey generally regarded as having a bright future. That is fundamentally different to say an older jockey at the end of his career being killed. Whereas most people'e reaction to Kelly's death was shock and regret, Lamont's and Mosley's deaths would have been drawn responses largely of "I didn't know they were still alive" or "they had a good innings". FearÉIREANN
So what if Spot the dog has an article, he's a dog and doesn't belong in this list. Mintguy (T) 12:22, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)
(Just being Devil's Advocate here) What if a famous horse like Seabiscuit or Secretariat died. Or Dolly the sheep? Some animals are newsworthy and/or famous. I'm not sure Spot Fetcher is worth mention on Recent Deaths, but some animals would be. SeanO 13:21, Mar 6, 2004 (UTC)
Where does it say that the list should only cover humans? If an animal is relevant enough to have its own article, it may as well have its death listed here. -- Wik 13:23, Mar 6, 2004 (UTC)
Yea keep the animals, how else would I have known Keiko had died? User:SimonMayer 13:37, 6 March 2004. (UTC)
Where do we list Spalding Gray? He's a recent death, but no one knows when between January 10 and March 6 he died. Any thoughts? Jwrosenzweig 21:00, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Also: do we know the date that Abu Abbas died, or do we merely know the date his death was announced? I think it's the latter. - Nunh-huh 21:52, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Its prudent to have an external link beside a recent death listing, this is because Google doesn't pick up most recent pages from the web. Providing ext. links will be all the more helpful if
It may or may not make sense to add the link in the external links section of the bio page as most obituary pages are not more than 1 paragraph long. Also ext. links on bio pages are more based on the life and profile of the person rather than a death notice.
I noticed User:Minesweeper removing all the external links from here. This is in response to that. Jay 03:15, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I noticed a lot of 18-20 year old American college sports players listed in June. While I don't mean to diminish the loss their loved ones suffered, I don't believe that they're really notable enough to be listed here. Jxg 18:21, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Notable or not, it doesn't hurt for them to be there. -- Marcus2
They're covered in media and youth sports are often broadcast on national television, so they are definitely notable. An external link would be helpful, however. Zerbey 17:28, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Even if they weren't that notable (not that the sports players aren't), it wouldn't hurt if they're mentioned in recent deaths. -- Marcus2
If they are not notable, they shouldn't be on articles such as this. If they are notable, they should have articles and be listed. Qzm ( talk) 19:10, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Johnny Ramone seems to have denied that he is dead as recently as two hours ago [1], so perhaps we should wait for a source before adding this:
Should we be including cause of death in the listing (it's becoming more popular, and I always do), or should we leave it for the article? What do other Wikipedians think?
It should be added when it is known, regardless of the cause. Qzm ( talk) 19:10, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
I heard a rumor that Ron White passed away from a heart attack. Can't find anything online. Any truth to this?
No it doesn't, so I've removed the reference to the appropriate template. An "event" is something that happens. A single death is an event. A list of recent deaths has no beginning and no end; it doesn't "happen". (You don't see a similar message on Recent changes, or even Current events come to that.) -- Avaragado 22:05, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
From http://www.livedaily.com/news/7012.html?t=98
Singer Laura Branigan (news), best known for her 1982 hit "Gloria," died of a brain aneurysm at her New York home on Thursday (8/26). She was 47. karahd 12:02, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)
I've added the name of a Dutch police officer to the list of recent deaths. I can understand why many people think he doesn't belong on this list, so I would like to explain why I included him. During the chase of a suspected drug dealer in Enschede (the Netherlands), two police officers were shot. One died of his wounds, the other is in critical condition at this moment. In the Netherlands, violence against police officers is relatively rare. Both in the 1980's and in the 1990's, 2 Dutch police officers were killed on duty. In the 1970's, 6 Dutch police officers were killed on duty. Because fatal violence against police officers is so rare for the Netherlands, I think the deceased police officer deserves to be on the list of Recent deaths. Aecis 10:01, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
There were three copies of the body of Recent deaths on that page a moment ago. I deleted all but the top one (reasoning that people look at the top one first to make updates). I did not, however, make a careful comparison between the various revisions as I did not have time. -- ke4roh 14:04, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)
I really don't see why the first 6 months were removed completely. Maybe moved to a seperate page and linked, but not totally removed. The first 6 months has information that is not available anywhere else in WIkipedia and should be kept if for nothing else for search purposes. Williamb 06:32, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Hi. I want to apologize about the recent posting I made, on October 30, about the death of a BBC actor. It just happened that I had stopped by the BBC website and saw his death notice, then I looked here and didnt see his name on the list , when he in fact, was there, so I added him...again!
I dont know much about the BBC or other topics, such as , say, TVyNotas for example. So Im sorry to make someone else go through the double work of reverting. User:Marine 69-71
Do we realy need the oldest Panda (13 August)? It could be offensive. -- Nk 15:43, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Yesterday it was 6th December. Now it's 7th December, but the date shown on his own page is 8th December. What is the true date of death? 203.37.77.9 22:39, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Is that worth mentioning? Somewhere? -- AllyUnion (talk) 07:56, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I was amazed to hear(on Geoff Bennett's afternoon program on ABC Classic FM, yesterday Saturday 18th December), about the recent death of Elena Souliotis.
This was news to Wikipedia, so I assumed it had only just happened (yesterday perhaps). Imagine my surprise when I learned she died two weeks ago, on 4th December, in Florence. The earliest obituary I found was not published till nine days after her death (The Scotsman, 13/12).
But that still leaves about five days, in which time thousands of opera-loving Wikipedians (and thus millions and perhaps billions of other people world-wide) were denied information about this wonderful singer.
Between them, historians, obituary collectors, and just plain ghouls like me, regularly trawl through all imaginable on-line sources of information. That information is often immediately re-published on other websites, such as Wikipedia. Wikipedia and similar sites are, by definition, always behind the times because they are at the mercy, so to speak, of their contributors. But apart from that, word spreads very quickly through the OFC (Obituary-focussed Community). So, how come everybody in Wikipedia, including me, totally missed this very sad departure? Or, if they were aware of it at some time between 13th and 18th December, why did nobody think this was worth putting on Wikipedia?
I am truly, deeply mystifed and profoundly troubled. I get like that sometimes. Cheers JackofOz 00:17, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I NPOV'd this entry. I agree it should be kept since this is one the biggest human tragedies of all time (see also Deaths in 2001 which had the 9/11 victims listed). What do other Wikipedians think, is it appropriate to list? Zerbey 21:36, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
The article has him listed as dead as of June 28, yet the referring article states that the U.S. Army lists his death as totally inconclusive and lists him still as a POW. I listed a note referring that his death was in dispute, but it was removed. What is the procedure in this case?-- Mitsukai 05:51, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
Why is this a seperate page to the 2004 page, when earlier years have deaths in a section of the main year page? Not that I have a particular problem with it, except that it doesnt appear to be consistent. 80.177.152.156